Huh? This is not about being caremad over some technical issue, this is about preserving a productive space for communication free from toxic people casting abuse while being "funny" and "smart". Please go back on the original thread and re-read the interaction with Sean. Are you going to defend that as within the bounds of acceptable behavior? Is this the first time that has happened?
> On Jun 30, 2015, at 5:58 PM, lars hofhansl <[email protected]> wrote: > > Moderating is better than outright banning, I think.While Micheal is > sometimes infuriating, he's also funny and smart. > Can we have a group of moderators? I'd volunteer, but not if I'm the only one. > > -- Lars > From: Stack <[email protected]> > To: Hbase-User <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 12:25 PM > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] correcting abusive behavior on mailing lists was (Re: > [DISCUSS] Multi-Cluster HBase Client) > >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Stack <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I volunteer to help moderate. >> St.Ack > Sorry. Changed my mind. I'm not going to do more work because of Michael. > Let the filters do the work for us. Ban him for 3 months. > > > St.Ack > > > >> >>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Sean Busbey <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> (I took the liberty of moving us off of Ted's feature discussion thread) >>> >>> A three month ban sounds better than a permanent ban. But it still seems >>> likely to just result in the ban-ee walking away from teh community or >>> escalating. >>> >>> Would we consider enforcing moderation on posts for the three month period >>> instead of an outright ban? >>> >>> It's more work for whomever has moderator rights on the mailing list, but >>> it provides a better feedback cycle for improved behavior. Presuming that >>> I >>> don't already have such access as a PMC member, I'd be willing to >>> volunteer >>> to help take on part of the burden. >>> >>> -Sean >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Andrew Purtell <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> It was suggested privately that we try a temporary ban first, to be >>> clear >>>> that current behavior and communication is unacceptable and won't be >>>> tolerated further, yet allow for the possibility of a return to the >>>> community should the message be received. So let me amend my proposal - >>> a >>>> three month temporary ban. >>>> >>>> Also, the reason I am asking for public feedback before calling for a >>> vote >>>> is this would be the first time in the history of the project we would >>> take >>>> this very unfortunate step. It pains me personally but enough is >>> enough, in >>>> my opinion. However, if you are not comfortable with that then please >>> speak >>>> up and I won't ask the PMC to vote on this. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Andrew Purtell <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've had enough and would like to ask the user and dev communities if >>>> they >>>>> would mind if we vote on a permanent ban of Michael Segal - any and >>> all >>>>> email accounts he may choose to set up - from all HBase mailing lists. >>>> The >>>>> basic lack of courtesy and constant naysaying is corrosive. Nobody >>> trying >>>>> to volunteer their time here deserves his continuing abuse. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 7:55 AM, Michael Segel < >>>> [email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sean, >>>>>> >>>>>> You’re a developer, or just some higher level primate that pounds >>> code? >>>>>> >>>>>> I don’t want to embarrass you, but what do they teach in engineering >>>>>> schools these days? >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> - Andy >>>> >>>> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein >>>> (via Tom White) >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sean >
