On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 00:57, Mark Shuttleworth <m...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > > To launch what you know you have installed, use the Dash. > > To explore what may be installed, or may be available, use the Software > Centre.
Wow , that's a shocking suggestion : in order to see what's available I need to start an application. And this is supposed to be a progress compared to the old-style desktop environments that can display a quick list of categories without external software. I'd really like to understand the rationale against the idea of having some sort of applications browser that is usable like an old-style Applications menu : see a list of categories and be able to see the contents of a category WITHOUT clicking on anything. Speaking of Software Center : in order to see what's in every category i need to click on the category in order to expand it . And scroll up-down , because when going to the next category the previous one remains expanded . The Software Center is clearly not the tool that I am hoping to see in Unity . Please believe me that in gnome2 or xfce I use the apps menu a lot . It's easy enough so that i rarely feel the need to create shortcuts on a panel. Every application has it's own well defined place inside the menu. Hmm... perhaps this is what irritates me about searching/filtering in the Dash : when using these filters there is too much visual noise (huge icons , see more 666 results , apps available for download ) and a particular application will never appear in the same place on the screen . The visual clutter gives me a constant feeling that I never know what's available for use . > Now, neither piece may yet be ideal, but we should improve the design of > those pieces for their specific purposes, not try to make everything do > everything. > > Mark > > > On 22/02/12 15:29, Adrian Maier wrote: >> >> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 17:19, nick rundy<nru...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> The problem is having to "expand" options, like the "See more results" >>> option. Too much stuff is being crammed into the dash. >>> >>> For example, on the Applications Lens, users should be able to use >>> setting >>> to configure it so that it ONLY shows the applications installed on the >>> machine. And by default shows ALL results. This way the user doesn't have >>> to >>> click so many things to get an expanded view of Applications. Also the >>> filters should not have to be expanded (which I believe is the case in >>> 12.04) >>> >>> @Adrian: >>> >>> if the Applications Lens defaults to show all stuff by default, then >>> Unity >>> is just as convenient as old-GNOME. >>> >>> 1. tap SUPER+A >>> 2. click GAMES >> >> That sounds like just a workaround for solving a problem that didn't >> exist before changing something that used to work well enough ... >> >> If there is a big list with all the applications , it implies >> scrolling in order to find the category and then finding the >> application. Too much visual noise for getting done a simple thing. >> >> I really mean that the right solution is to have a real classic menu / >> list view . >> >> >> >> >>>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:39:36 +0200 >>>> From: syra...@gmail.com >>>> To: unity-design@lists.launchpad.net >>>> Subject: [Unity-design] Some impressions about the current status of >>>> Unity >>>> Hello people, >>>> >>>> Today I've been curious to see what is the current status of Unity >>>> compared to the version shipped last year with 11.04. >>>> So i've installed the Ubuntu daily beta 12.04 in a virtual machine . >>>> >>>> >>>> The main thing I would like to comment about is : navigation around >>>> the available applications . >>>> >>>> I have chosen a simple task : " let's see what games are installed >>>> " . Steps : >>>> - CLICK on "ubuntu button" >>>> - looking for the word "categories" on screen. Couldn't find it. >>>> Finally figured out that "Filter results" might help with my task >>>> - CLICK on Filter Results >>>> - CLICK on Games >>>> - it displays : Aislerot Solitaire , Freecell Solitaire , Mahjongg , >>>> Mines >>>> - hmm. Are there just 4 games installed ? apparently not - there >>>> is a link "See 1 more result" >>>> - CLICK on "see 1 more result". >>>> >>>> The next task "now let's see what development software is installed" . >>>> Steps : >>>> - the screen is still showing the previous screen with the games . >>>> - CLICK on Developer in "filter results" >>>> - nothing changes in the search results ! >>>> - CLICK on Games , to deselect >>>> - the Developer software finally >>>> >>>> Result : after 6 clicks I have been able to see what games and what >>>> development tools are installed by default in 12.04 beta . >>>> Too big icons , on a normal display there will always be necessary >>>> to click on "see more N results". >>>> >>>> >>>> Now let's see the steps needed to do the same tasks in Ubuntu 10.04 , >>>> gnome 2 : >>>> - CLICK on "ubuntu button" >>>> - move the mouse over "Games" . Read the list of applications. >>>> - move the mouse over "Programming" . Read the list of applications. >>>> >>>> Sorry for ranting , but killing productivity for visual cuteness is >>>> not progress ... >>>> It should be possible to have a classical menu with applications >>>> categories (maybe on right-click on the desktop). >>>> >>>> >>>> My personal conclusion : the current Unity is just as disappointing >>>> as last year. >>>> Starting an application multiple times seems to be handled ok now >>>> (useful particularly for terminals). >>>> But there is still zero configurability (in settings -> appearance >>>> the user can only change the wallpaper and autohide the launcher . >>>> Quite hilarious in a sad way ) . >>>> No possibility to disable the global menu . >>>> My main showstopper : no classic applications menu. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Adrian >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design >>>> Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> >> > -- Adrian M -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
