Pretty sure this guy is just trolling and baiting at this point Apr 3, 2019, 10:47 AM by grarp...@gmail.com:
>> why adversaries should finance tor project and publicly it if they have >> a malicious intent? >> > > Why do adversaries do that to their opponents? > Because it's a simple and effective diversion operation. > Nor is it dependant upon whether any "malicious intent". > Adversaries often fund their opponents to keep them busy and happy > even if opponent only a few steps tangent behind the race to actually > being able to kill the adversary. It can work actively... > "Here's a pile and stream of money to develop some useless > or thing we want in an RFP / contract / grant / employee", > or passively... "Hey, those guys seem to be going down useless > paths, ok here's a bunch of money to keep them happily digging > in those holes, LOL." Usually delivered by false fronts. > See also "regulatory capture" type of concept. Also how nice > salaries and simple weight of self reinforcing mass inertia and > groupthink over time can keep any one or group settled into the > same thing, less dynamism, up to even not abandoning and starting > out elsewhere due to simple risk aversion... "job food friends lifestyle." > > > Is an entity, product, or network subject to whatever > to some degree or other? Maybe, maybe not, others decide. > Yet without talking about and analysing harder questions > once in a while, especially as generations come and go, > people might have less sense therein. > > If a site looks sexy it must be good, right? > That's what at least marketers think, and it's perhaps good enough > for browsing mundane TV news sites. Yet there's no frontpage > splash disclaimer for others with more sensitive, vulnerable, > or different use cases. > > Nor mention of Tor people hypocritically trying to censor ban > nodes out of the consensus for, ironically, nothing more than > excercising their right to free speech. Instead of say punting that > out to meta analysis projects that users can choose to subscribe > to as suits their own likes, support, and thinking therein. > > To be fair, no different than any other business (say ibm.com) > or opensource project... finding much suitability disclaimer > on anyone's pages, surely not without a good number of clicks, > it's of less interest or natural to cover some potentially > questionable areas, adversarial weaknesses, etc... it doesn't sell. > > > Anyhow... > > The last actual use case warning or disclaimer on torproject.org > was removed by or on October 10 2010. Some historical bisects.. > > Site v1 > first, domain 1998-01-29 > http://web.archive.org/web/19981212031609/http://www.onion-router.net > <http://web.archive.org/web/19981212031609/http://www.onion-router.net/> > > same content actually to "circa" 2006 > http://web.archive.org/web/20061023145713/http://www.onion-router.net > <http://web.archive.org/web/20061023145713/http://www.onion-router.net/> > > http://web.archive.org/web/20130120133213/http://www.onion-router.net > <http://web.archive.org/web/20130120133213/http://www.onion-router.net/> > except for the gov diff > http://web.archive.org/web/20130420093515/http://www.onion-router.net > <http://web.archive.org/web/20130420093515/http://www.onion-router.net/> > > curr > http://web.archive.org/web/20190228035625/http://www.onion-router.net > <http://web.archive.org/web/20190228035625/http://www.onion-router.net/> > > Site v2 > first, domain 2006-10-17 > http://web.archive.org/web/20071011223019/http://www.torproject.org > <http://web.archive.org/web/20071011223019/http://www.torproject.org/> > last > http://web.archive.org/web/20101003133226/http://www.torproject.org > <http://web.archive.org/web/20101003133226/http://www.torproject.org/> > > Site v3 > first > http://web.archive.org/web/20101010191937/http://www.torproject.org > <http://web.archive.org/web/20101010191937/http://www.torproject.org/> > last > http://web.archive.org/web/20190326100059/https://www.torproject.org > <http://web.archive.org/web/20190326100059/https://www.torproject.org/> > > Site v4 > first > http://web.archive.org/web/20190327033924/https://www.torproject.org > <http://web.archive.org/web/20190327033924/https://www.torproject.org/> > > > Misc... > http://web.archive.org/web/20041108031017/http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter > > <http://web.archive.org/web/20041108031017/http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter> > http://web.archive.org/web/20070104070427/http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter > > <http://web.archive.org/web/20070104070427/http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter> > http://web.archive.org/web/20100416102850/http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter > > <http://web.archive.org/web/20100416102850/http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter> > http://web.archive.org/web/20110728115309/https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki > > <http://web.archive.org/web/20110728115309/https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki> > > >> what you said >> > > It's really all junk lately, just delete it. > -- > tor-talk mailing list - > tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > <mailto:tor-talk@lists.torproject.org> > To unsubscribe or change other settings go to > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > <https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk> > -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
