Hi Ray Your situation reminds me of myself years ago when I wrote "TiddlyWiki for the Rest of Us" for TW classic.
You seem to be using 'nono' as an abbreviation that I am not aware of. Does it mean 'know nothing'? Or something else? I would definitely say that you should write some tutorials as you learn something new, whether those are blog posts or videos. Every bit helps. I have done this at times on my https://giffmex.org/gifts/documenting.tw.html. So, yes! By all means, let's see what ya got! And don't be shy about asking for help here in this forum when you get stuck on soemthing new you are learning. I have done that for years, and they haven't come with pitchforks and torches yet to get rid of me because of my constant requests for help. We have a lot of helpful people here who are generous with their time. Blessings! On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 8:29:32 AM UTC-6 [email protected] wrote: > May i chip in as a complete and utter NONO? > > I discovered TW some six years ago. Then went over to Evernote and quit > that recently for another tool. > Now i work again with TW5 and have a very very hard time to learn it. > Man is this some difficult piece of work to master. > Reminds me of me learning Unix 20 years ago.... same horrible learning > curve... but now i am a Linux teacher :-) > > So i learn a very small bit of TW5 every day. Piece by piece the magic > unravels itself.... but did i say how hard it is? > > I am an outgoing kind of guy and surely want to help promote TW, realy! > > What i notice is the lack of structured tutorials... you have to look all > over the place to find them. > I had tremendous progress with 10 minutes online with Huber Simon > (THANKS!!) > > There is a Discord group with no or little response.... A Reddit group > kind of alive. > But as a newcomer you are in my opinion on your own. > Yes there are some good youtube videos, and they help you to get started. > But getting started leads you to more questions.... that is the power and > beauty of TW. > > What *I* need is a more step by step approach.... sometimes i read TW > lingo and my brain goes: <KRANK, brain fried, core dumped> > > So i ask and ask again, sometimes indeed get an answer, more often not but > i keep going, > That gives me tiny bits of progress every day.... > > So.... i am willing to help setup a tutorial (i am no influencer but > extrovert enough :-) ) > I am the ideal nono noob user who can learn and then can teach. > > So yes i would like to help. > Maybe in some kind of online meeting ?? > > Let me know your thoughts, please. > > Ray > > > > Op vr 5 mrt. 2021 om 14:56 schreef David Gifford <[email protected]>: > >> >> Hi all >> >> I wrote the following comments for another thread, but I don't want to >> derail that thread and am starting a new one. >> >> 1. OVERCOMING PREJUDICE AGAINST ROAM >> >> I don't know why there are so many negative comments towards Roam in this >> Google Group. They, and their users, are constantly improving Roam, and it >> can do way more than even 6 months ago. They are not resting on backlinks >> as their only feature (not that they were doing that even a year ago, when >> they had filters, graphs, two columns, etc). So the comments just feel like >> they are generated out of envy of their success. >> >> Also, Roam doesn't seem to be overhyping itself. The Roam USERS are the >> ones posting accolades on Twitter, and the Roam account (or Connor's >> account) retweets them. Which is no different from what @TiddlyWiki does. >> And other influencers are creating courses to cash in on people wanting to >> learn it. And YouTubers are hoping for hits on their pages by creating >> videos about Roam. Everything just snowballed for Roam, like it did for >> Notion in 2019. And like it could for TiddlyWiki. >> >> I think complaints about Roam are a waste of time. The question is, what >> can we do, positively, to learn from what they did, so that TiddlyWiki gets >> the attention and recognition it deserves? Knowing full well that we have a >> great open source product, how can we get and retain users? >> >> 2. LESSONS FOR TIDDLYWIKI >> >> I have a feeling that most of the people who are on this forum, myself >> included, are not the people best suited to actually promote TW, and that >> we need win over some extroverted influencer types, to come up with better >> onboarding materials, and then promote the heck out of TW. Just remember >> how much attention we got when Anne-Laure LeCunff wrote a couple blog posts >> on TiddlyWiki last Spring, and I merely tagged Roam Research's @ username a >> few times on my tweets when I debuted Stroll? Imagine what we could do with >> a few well-produced video tutorials and highlighting of TW's capabilities, >> and testimonials from influencers. By people who know how to express it in >> non-technical, non-absract terms. >> >> Someone should convince Nat Eliason or someone like him to write and >> promote a paid web course for TiddlyWiki, or ask people to create more >> video tutorials for TW on Youtube. Top candidates: Video walkthroughs for >> Timimi and each of the other options for saving. / Ten great plugins for >> TiddlyWiki for notetaking / ten for productivity / ten for images / ten for >> searching / ten for adjusting the UI, etc >> >> Rather than grumbling about Roam we should just figure out the right >> strategy to make TiddlyWiki popular and get someone to do it for us. For >> free. They do the work, and get paid by the hits on their Youtube videos >> and blog posts, or in the case of the courses, the fee they charge for the >> course. And if they make it look as if they 'discovered' TiddlyWiki even >> though it has ben around for years, and even though we approached them >> rather than them discovering TiddlyWiki, let them. Who cares. Let them get >> their ego stroked. As long as TW gets the press it ought to. >> >> We have had exposure at times, but a deficient onboarding experience held >> us back ("wait, I have to read through documentation about numerous saving >> options before I can even use this on my computer?"). If we could get the >> onboarding experience right, then get key people to get us the exposure, >> TiddlyWiki would have its day. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TiddlyWiki" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/02b08c21-c51f-45c5-bf91-0abb10135126n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/02b08c21-c51f-45c5-bf91-0abb10135126n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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