On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Bill Bogstad <bogs...@pobox.com> wrote:

>
> I've been waiting for at least a decade now for a Linux distribution to
> pick one of the CMs out there and just
> start supporting using said CM as the default way to manage their
> distribution.   It seems like the commercial distributions
> (RHEL, SuSe, ??) all want to build their own GUI based management system
> from scratch.   I'm guessing this is part of their
> attempt at "value-add" in order to convince people to buy even bigger
> support contracts.   For me it just means, they are no better then the free
> distributions (Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu) in terms of real world support.
> I've rarely had to contact
> vendor support for software, but I've had to install/reinstall systems
> countless times where a by default CM would have been a big advantage.
>
> Bill Bogstad
>
>

This won't happen for a long time for exactly the reason the Puppet et al
is so complicated: Staunch resistance to using any type of standard
configuration file.  Because of this, every CM tool must come up with a way
to manage all thousands of different config files, creating a generator for
every one out there.  Anyone who's used templates quickly realizes that
they are simply not sufficient for all cases.  The *nix method of using a
different freeform text file for every program is just not scalable.

Say what you will about them, but Microsoft realized this was a problem
with INI files a long time ago and migrated to the registry.  You may
scoff, and one could say that early *implementations* of the registry left
something to be desired, but the *idea* of having a centrally managed
config store with a standard API used by all programs is what allows them
to completely dominate in the Enterprise market (and is what Puppet tries
to achieve now).  A lot of the complex things you do with Puppet are
complete child's play with Group Policy.


❧ Brian Mathis
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