What about security. Authentication and Autorization.
Does Cognition plan to provide some solution for that?

On 3/28/06, Vinicius Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> One word: AWESOME!!!!
>
> On 3/24/06, Konstantin Ignatyev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >                       Hibernate is really trying to embrace annotations
> > but at this time Annotations are not working quite correct, they feel
> buggy.
> > I often see messages in the Hibernate forum from people encountering
> > annotation misbehavior in places where hbm mapping works just fine.
> >   The bottom line: at this time hbm mapping is more stable and robust.
> >
> >
> > Raul Raja Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This looks very
> > interesting. The Trails project uses similar
> > technologies but no plugin and is more Model oriented.
> >
> > My doubts are:
> >
> > Why using hbm.xml files instead of annotations It looks like the
> > hibernate community is moving toward annotations?
> >
> > Is the generation of persistent objects based only in the db schema or
> > can the schema be generated based on the Entity/POJOS?
> >
> > It looks like Tapestry is gonna move toward getting ride of the xml spec
> > files. Does cognition compare on any way with Spindle when it comes to
> > validate Tapestry pages and components?
> >
> > I have asked this same question in the Trails newsgroup, but it seems to
> > me that if Cognition uses hivemind, things like the Persistence
> > Framework or any of its part could be replace just extending
> > configuration points. So that people won't be forced to use Hibernate,
> > etc...
> >
> > Can Cognition work with specless pages and components?
> >
> >
> > Thanks. It looks like a very promising project
> >
> > Raul Raja.
> >
> > Derick Fernando wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I copied this from the nightly builds, I'll try to get this resolved
> > > shortly. Thanks for the feedback.
> > >
> > > Robert Hannebauer wrote:
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> the presentation looks really great. I wanted to try the modeler, but
> > it
> > >> seems there are some missing classes/packages.
> > >> e.x. com.thelabllc.cfmodel.wizards.NewProjectCreationWizard.
> > >>
> > >> Robert
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Jesse Kuhnert wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> This sounds great! Good work guys :) I prefer using jdk 5 and
> > hibernate
> > >>> exclusively and might actually be able to use something like this.
> > >>>
> > >>> On 3/23/06, Derick Fernando  wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Steven Bell wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> This looks interesting at first glance (a little soon to give a
> real
> > >>>>
> > >>>> opinion
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> about it).
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> A couple of questions that pop to mind right off the bat:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Do I have to be using JDK 5.0?
> > >>>>> Do I have to be using Hibernate?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Yes, currently you have to use both JDK 5.0 and Hibernate.
> Hibernate
> > >>>> filters are used extensively for searches. Currently the grid
> > component
> > >>>> can be mapped to any named query, the search component applies
> > filters
> > >>>> to this query to limit results.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I'm sure I'll come up with more questions if I get the time to
> > really
> > >>>>
> > >>>> dive
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> into this, but these are a couple of showstoppers for me.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 3/23/06, Steve Motola  wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> We are proud to announce the Alpha release of the Cognition
> > >>>>>> Framework,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> an
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>> open
> > >>>>>> source web application framework that uses the Tapestry /
> Hibernate
> > /
> > >>>>>> Spring
> > >>>>>> application stack.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> http://www.thelabllc.com
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Accompanying it is an Eclipse Plug-in called the Cognition
> Modeler,
> > a
> > >>>>
> > >>>> GUI
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>> tool
> > >>>>>> for working with Tapestry and the Cognition Framework.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> http://dev.thelabllc.com/cognition/viewlets/cognition_intro.htm
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> We've been listening closely to the mailing list and have come
> > across
> > >>>>
> > >>>> many
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>> of
> > >>>>>> the same problems in our own development.  Here are some of the
> > >>>>>> goals we
> > >>>>>> achieve with the Cognition Framework:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 1.  Lower the bar of entry for Tapestry.
> > >>>>>> 2.  The ability to start quickly with Hibernate and Spring, and
> > >>>>>> not be
> > >>>>>> bogged
> > >>>>>> down with configuration.
> > >>>>>> 3.  Have some common practices and standards in terms of
> > application
> > >>>>>> design and
> > >>>>>> approach.
> > >>>>>> 4.  Provide GUI tools for Tapestry 4.  We look forward to
> > >>>>>> contributing
> > >>>>
> > >>>> to
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>> Spindle and integrating this within the Beta.
> > >>>>>> 5.  Provide a framework that is fully extensible.
> > >>>>>> 6.  Rapid Application Development for Tapestry and the rest of
> the
> > OS
> > >>>>>> application stack.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> So give it a download, try it out, give feedback and get
> > >>>>>> involved.  We
> > >>>>>> apologize
> > >>>>>> in advance about the lack of documentation, we are working
> > >>>>>> aggressively
> > >>>>
> > >>>> on
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>> this,
> > >>>>>> as we've been focusing on getting out the Alpha.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> http://www.thelabllc.com/Products.page
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Right now we are at EclipseCon.  Lots of big vendors have fancy,
> > >>>>>> complicated,
> > >>>>>> expensive tools for JSF.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The Tapestry community needs more tools - ones that are simple,
> > >>>>>> affordable, easy
> > >>>>>> to use and allow us to solve problems quickly.  We think
> Cognition
> > >>>>>> Framework is
> > >>>>>> on the right path and look forward to having it grow and serve
> the
> > >>>>>> needs
> > >>>>>> of the
> > >>>>>> Tapestry community and beyond.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Derick Fernando, Lead Architect
> > >>>>>> Steve Motola, President
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The Lab, LLC
> > >>>>>> http://www.thelabllc.com
> > >>>>>>
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> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Steven Bell
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> .........................................
> > >>>>
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> > >>>> Lead Architect
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> > >>> Jesse Kuhnert
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> > >>>
> > >>> Open source based consulting work centered around
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