I agree totally, especially about E-mail and the FaceBook and Twitter
jabbering while you're inputting text issue, which is really
annoying!!!
It's far easier for me to use my Android, iPhone or even ... um ...
Mobile
speak on faceBook! Yes, it doesn't do some other stuff that the very
latest Talks does, but they haven't broken edit boxes on social
networking
sites up till now. Why should these be broken when they were fine
before?
I have only upgraded Talks, not my firmware or anything lately. I'm
not
sure if I should upgrade to the new versions of software available,
either. Will facebook and Twitter edit boxes still be broken, even
after
that? Will my E-mail be even worse? We don't seem to get answers to
such
questions from developers the way they do on the Android list ... and
most
of the Android screen readers are free! So we've kept on and on paying
for
Talks and can't access E-mail very well, and the Ovi Store isn't even
a
joke! It's worse! As far as I know, there hasn't really been any
explanation about why this doesn't work well, but the same applies
with
Mobile Speak there. Code factory did, at least make older phones read
E-mail better, though. Having to arrow down to read the body of an
E-mail
really is primitive!
I tend to do most of my mailing on my HTC or iPhone for that reason
these
days.
I love the design of Nokia phones, and the Vocaliser voices used with
talks, but, if you want to keep us on side, at least give us some
reasons
why this stuff doesn't work well in Symbian, when it does on other
platforms, please!
Thank you for reading this. These are thoughts I have had for a number
of
months now, not just something I thought of today. I've already pretty
much decided my next new phone ... and I like new phones ... often ...
will almost certainly not b a Nokia on Symbian, with its inaccessible
Ovi
Store, most apps and half-baked e-mail access.
If people think I'm being harsh, I'm sorry. However, I say all this
after
using all three platforms, so I do know what I am comparing.
Thanks.
Fi
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com
[mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com]
On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 18 March 2012 21:39
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] I just bought an iPhone
Christopher I am very pleased to read what you write below re Talks
and
iPhone. I am aware of more and more blind people making the move over
to
iPhone and I am thinking seriously about it for my necxt phone,
however,
I
have been a Talks user for 4 years now and my appeal here is to the
Talks
developers not to let the iPhone and Android take over the market of
screen readers for the blind. My Symbian S60 has met all my needs up
to
2011 but Talks is not meeting my needs at present. What then are my
problems?
1. E-mail accessability is not what it was. I cannot seem to find a
way
on
my E6 to save a new e-mail address.
2. As pointed out by another list member, over a week ago, the Edit
boxes
in Twitter and Facebook have Talks continually saying edit box while
one
is writing. Yet this has only become an issue with Talks released in
February 2012. What surprises me is that such an issue is not known at
release time. Surely the developers run through e-mail, internet and
social network sites prior to release.
3. Despite all I said over months about the work around on E6 to start
writing in a word document. My comments were not listened to.
Finally Talks developers, I love Talks and do not want to stop using
this
excellent and reasonably priced software, but if my comments and those
of
other users fall on deaf ears, then we may be forced to go out and
purchase an alternative mobile device than the symbian S60 one.
-----Original message-----
From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 18/03/2012, 3:28 pm
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: [Talks] I just bought an iPhone
Well, after being a happy Symbian and Talks user for almost exactly 9
years, I finally decided to get a new smart phone, and this time I
went
with an iPhone. Not that why I did so is important to anyone, but I'll
include some of my thoughts below, as well as how much I appreciate
Talks
and the Symbian platform.
I started using Talks while it was still in beta back at the end of
2002.
I got a Nokia 9290 communicator, and I think this, in conjunction with
Talks, was the first fully accessible smart phone available to the
blind.
I've had 2 Symbian phones since then, the Nokia N75 and the AT&T Nokia
E71X. Each phone had it's strengths and weaknesses, but in general,
I've
never been disappointed with Symbian or Talks.
My decision to go with an iPhone was a tough one, although that was as
much philosophical as anything else. I type on my E71X much less than
I
used to, so the thought of going with a touch only device became less
of
a
concern for me. I was kind of waiting for the Droid 4 (which will have
a
keyboard), but I wasn't sure when or if AT&T would ever carry the
Droid
4,
and after reading multiple reviews of Android and Ice Cream Sandwich,
it
seemed like I'd be waiting quite a while for Android to catch up with
the
iPhone with respect to accessibility.
The closed nature of the iPhone also concerned me when comparing it to
an
Android, or even a Symbian, phone, but I use the cloud more and more,
and
I eventually decided that I could leverage the cloud enough to
minimize
my
need to use Windows or iTunes.
I also started finding myself needing an IOS or Android device for
work
and wanting one for personal use, e.g. the apps I needed for work or
wanted to use personally were only available on the IOS or Android
platforms. Although there isn't anything wrong with my E71X, it is
starting to show it's age, and once I decided Android would be playing
catch up with the iPhone with respect to accessibility for quite some
time
to come, even given Ice Cream Sandwich. I decided there was no longer
any
reason to wait.
I just want to say that I never slammed the iPhone, so I don't think
I'm
being hypocritical at all. I still feel the Symbian device and Talks
are
perfectly adequate solutions for the right situation, and I don't
think
anyone needs to feel like they're being left behind if they choose to
continue to use a Symbian device for another handset or two. It's all
about what you want and what gets the job done.
I just want to conclude by letting the Talks developers and this list
know
how much I appreciated the technological advances made by the Talks
developers. They were truly visionaries. I also want this list to know
how
much I appreciated the support I got from this list and it's members.
I'm
convinced that without Symbian, Talks and this list, I would not have
been
a satisfied blind smart phone user these past nine years.
I'll hang out on this list for a bit, and I'm sure I'll see some of
you
on
more generic lists, but eventually I'll have to unsubscribe from this
list, unless of course, I can't stand the iPhone and come back to
Talks!
Wow, this all seems a bit melodramatic, but Talks and this list have
actually been a big part of my life for most of a decade, so I hope
y'all
will forgive my drama! Good luck everyone in that quest for the
perfect
smart phone for your own situation!
--
Christopher (CJ)
chalt...@gmail.com
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