Hi Christopher,
Sorry, if I didn't explain properly to make you fully understand my last message. I wrote few lines only when my husband said that the display still 160, and number 1 is in bracket which I didn't hear because I shut off the punctuation. When I wrote the 192 characters long text, I didn't ask my husband to look at my screen, but Talks says 102 2 which I assume the 2 is in bracket. So, I got the count down then, why it was 102 when the text was 192 characters, I'm not bother, as long as my message reaches to my recipient with no problem. If I mentioned of most people shortcuts their words when texting, because that's how I receive as often. In fact, I did the same, thinking that I only have limited characters to use.
My phone is working fine, so I don't need any updates as yet!

Estelita

----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Chaltain" <chalt...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 3:43 PM
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Are you saying that when you were typing in a message on your phone, your sighted husband was saying the display was saying 160 and it wasn't changing? If so, that sounds like a bug in the software on the phone. If it's important to you, you may want to see if there's an update for your phone.

Also, did you say that you entered a long message of around 192 characters and Talks told you you had 102(2) characters left? That sounds like the character count is getting updated, although I'd expect it to say 128(2).

Finally, are you saying that most people have to worry about sending long messages? If so, that isn't the case any more. Most carriers and text messaging programs will just concatinate your messages together to create a longer message. That's why you're hearing things like 160(1) and 102(2). The number in parenthesis indicates how many parts there are to your message.

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On 11/2/2010 10:13 AM, Estelita wrote:
Hi Christopher,
I have done some expermentation on this dilemma and found an interesting result!
By the way, I am using N86, with Talks and zooms V premium 5.00.3.
I asked my sighted husband to look at my phone's screen on the message area, it displays 160. I wrote some lines, the display didn't change and Talks still reads 160 1. In my computer, I have a file consists of 33 words and character with spaces is 192 long.
I wrote this whole file and when I'm done, I checked and it says 102 2!
I texted it to my husband and he got it with no problem.
My conclusion is, I can write long messages on my phone with no worries of cutting short of the words, like most people usually do.
Cheers,

Estelita

----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Chaltain" <chalt...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 10:27 PM
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Hmm, I'm stumped. I tried the same message, set my punctuation to none,
and I heard 140 1, with a little pause between the 140 and the 1. Talks
won't warn you when you get to the end of the message because you'll just roll over into the next part of the message. For example, if I type a 180
character message then I'd hear 140(2).

I wonder if you're running into a bug. I know you said you were running
Talks 5.0, but was that 5.00.3 or 5.01.1? Also what phone and firmware are
you running? I assume the number of characters actually appears on the
screen. If you have any sighted help, you could see if the numbers are
counting down or not.

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On 11/1/2010 4:39 PM, Estelita wrote:
Yes, I set the punctuation to none.
Anyway, I tried it, I wrote:

I reside in Britain.

which consists of 20 characters, but it still says 161.
I wonder if Talks will remind us if we exceed the limit?

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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 8:53 PM
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That's what you'll hear if your punctuation is set to none. If you
change your punctuation to all or some then you'll hear 160(1), that's
"160 left paren 1 right paren". This means you have 160 characters left
in the first part of of your text message.

In your earlier example, your text message was 10 characters long. I
wonder if it was saying 150(1) (That's with a five.) instead of 160(1)
(with a 6). I'd suggest giving it another try with a slightly longer
text message. See if you hear it roll over from 150 to 149.

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On 11/1/2010 3:24 PM, Estelita wrote:
Hi,
To test it, I went to message area, without typing anything, I did the
process, and Talks still says 161.
By the way, there's a pause in between 160 and 1.  Not sure what does
it mean!
Perhaps Stephen was right about the cell provider, perhaps my provider
only allows me 160 characters for messaging.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Chaltain"
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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 7:49 PM
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You're probably right, but I do know Talks used to handle this
differently in older versions. For example, I remember when it would
announce the number of remaining characters after every character you typed. 5.00.3 and 5.01.1 probably both handle it the same way though.
What does it say when you press Talks followed by the long press of
soft key 2 before you start typing anything? Maybe your text messages
start out with 170 characters instead of 160.

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On 11/1/2010 12:54 PM, Estelita wrote:
Mine is version 5.0, I don't think it's due to Talks version issue.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Chaltain"
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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 5:06 PM
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I tried it, and Talks says 150(1). I'm running Talks 5.01.1 on and
E71X.

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On 11/1/2010 11:25 AM, Estelita wrote:
Hi,
I tried this process, I only wrote: hi it's me, and Talks says,
"161", is this right?  I can't believe it!!!

----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Keller"
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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 12:51 PM
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While you are in the open message do a talks then long press of
soft key 2
and that should give you what you want.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Carin Headrick"
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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 7:37 AM
Subject: [Talks] checking how many characters are in a message


Hi. I'm sorry to ask this question again, but since the archive
isn't
searchable, I don't have a hope in hell of finding the answer in
there.

Is there a way of checking how many characters you have written in
a
text? Say you're writing a tweet and you want to know if you've
reached
140 characters. I thought someone had suggested one, but back then
I
didn't do twitter.

Thanks if someone can refresh my foggy memory.

Carin
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