I am one of those who didn't bother to look what it's about.
I share the wish to tag crannogs as important historical structures still
existing today.
I share the criticism that _type does not mean anything. At the same time I
don't care if it is there or not; settlement=* also does not say what kind
of categorisation is used for the values. But the settlement key ius
already in (scarce) use for something else, with values yes and no.

As for implicit approval of the higher tags, fine with me! They are in
actual use in a scheme, and for me that is good enough. If anyone would
start a separate vote for that, fine. If the current vote is postponed till
after, fine, it is the royal way I think, but I think it is not necessary.
I think we can be practical about this, not principal. It's just not big
enough.

Peter Elderson


Op vr 7 okt. 2022 om 13:10 schreef Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com>:

>
> On 07/10/2022 11:27, Marc_marc wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Le 07.10.22 à 12:11, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit :
> >> who cares for "in use" or "approved"
> >
> > me :)
> >
> > approved that means that the subject has been discussed,
> > that people have spent time on it, that there has been
> > an opportunity to detect problems, to propose improvements
> > it's quite different from an "in use", because a guy invented
> >
> Unfortunately discussion and "voting" by people who have only the
> vaguest idea of what the thing being voted on is adds no value*. There
> is a place on the "B Ark" for them...
>
> The fact that there was only one comment during the fortnight of
> discussion means that people really don't know (or don't care) what
> these are, and people who do know and care (such as the proposer) should
> probably "just map these".  Whether that's via
> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/defensive_settlement=crannog
> (which is slightly ahead in taginfo) or
> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/settlement_type=crannog matters
> little; there are few of them in OSM right now, and the word "crannog"
> is characteristic enough, that they can fairly easily be remapped into
> some "better" archaeological scheme at some later stage.
>
> What matters is getting them mapped, and getting from the 10s currently
> in OSM to the 1500 or so that apparently do or did exist**.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Andy
>
> * We still don't know what bicycle=designated means
>
> https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/use-of-bicycle-designated-vs-bicycle-yes-outside-of-germany/3230
>
>
> ** According to wikipedia.  I was surprised that there were apparently
> as many as 1200 in Ireland.
>
>
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