On 27/09/19 02:15, Paul Allen wrote:
On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 16:49, Richard Fairhurst <rich...@systemed.net <mailto:rich...@systemed.net>> wrote:

    Paul Allen wrote:
    > BTW, that's on national cycle route 82, so whether or not it
    really is
    > a pub would be of interest to some mappers.

    Oh, has that closed?


Two or three years ago.  The Eagle nearby it closed as well, but has since re-opened
under a new name.

    That's a shame. (I stayed in St Dogmaels a few years
    ago, thought the Castle Inn looked wonderfully old-fashioned, and was
    planning to go but was diverted by some other excellent pubs
    nearby. Not
    least the one in St Dogmaels itself which served Gwynt y Ddraig Black
    Dragon. I'd hoped to return one day... ah well.)


Ummm, which pub in St Dogs?  The Teifi Netpool Inn is more of a guest house with a bar than a pub with guest rooms these days.  The White Hart closed but there's currently an
attempt by locals to raise the money to take it over.

    > Mapping it as amenity=pub + disused=yes would (if carto
    > is consistent with other times I've tried disused=yes) render it
    as a pub
    > where disused:amenity=pub does not render it as a pub.

    Sure, but OSM isn't just about rendering, let alone just osm-carto
    rendering.


Yes, it's also the data.  To some it's ONLY the data. But for many of us it's both: getting a useful map is why we do it and we need accurate data to get a useful map.  If the carto does
not meet reasonable expectations then people will either stop mapping
or will tag for the renderer, either of which will reduce the accuracy of the data.

If it looks like a church then OSM uses building=church.

So why not use building=pub???

Ok the renders may not presently use the information .. but it does tag the truth?

So .. once the tagging is done .. how would you render a building that is a church/pub but no longer functions as a church/pub? That is the problem.


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