On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 16:49, Richard Fairhurst <rich...@systemed.net> wrote:
> Paul Allen wrote: > > BTW, that's on national cycle route 82, so whether or not it really is > > a pub would be of interest to some mappers. > > Oh, has that closed? Two or three years ago. The Eagle nearby it closed as well, but has since re-opened under a new name. > That's a shame. (I stayed in St Dogmaels a few years > ago, thought the Castle Inn looked wonderfully old-fashioned, and was > planning to go but was diverted by some other excellent pubs nearby. Not > least the one in St Dogmaels itself which served Gwynt y Ddraig Black > Dragon. I'd hoped to return one day... ah well.) > Ummm, which pub in St Dogs? The Teifi Netpool Inn is more of a guest house with a bar than a pub with guest rooms these days. The White Hart closed but there's currently an attempt by locals to raise the money to take it over. > > Mapping it as amenity=pub + disused=yes would (if carto > > is consistent with other times I've tried disused=yes) render it as a pub > > where disused:amenity=pub does not render it as a pub. > > Sure, but OSM isn't just about rendering, let alone just osm-carto > rendering. Yes, it's also the data. To some it's ONLY the data. But for many of us it's both: getting a useful map is why we do it and we need accurate data to get a useful map. If the carto does not meet reasonable expectations then people will either stop mapping or will tag for the renderer, either of which will reduce the accuracy of the data. > A "find a pint of beer near me" app which does a proximity search > for amenity=pub won't work very well if some of those pubs... aren't pubs. > > amenity=pub means "actually a pub", not "thing that looks like a pub". > Which is why, for this one, I used disused:amenity=pub. Which (currently, on standard carto) doesn't render as a pub. It still looks like a pub because of the sign, which they cannot legally remove. In another case, where I knew a pub had shut temporarily (because of a fire) but would eventually re-open, I tagged it as disused:amenity=pub. Both of those continued to show up on various pub websites as still being pubs because not all websites use OSM data to decide what is and isn't a pub. -- Paul
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