On 21-Sep-17 06:01 AM, marc marc wrote:
Le 20. 09. 17 à 20:39, Kevin Kenny a écrit :
Is this a minimal proposal that we can all tolerate?
I do not see any difference between access=permit and (not tag for)
access to a sports club : you can go there if you meet certain
conditions and generally any sports club allows you to "buy a permit
according to their formality"
I see no difference with private property either. if you "follow"
my formalities, you will have the right to come at home.
I think that it would be preferable to improve access=private
by adding a tag to describe any means of "overriding" this restriction
rather than inventing a new type of access that is between sports clubs
are public for the moment), access=private and paying infrastructure
like tool roads.
The primary difference between access=private and access=permit
is that a formal permit system exists that anyone can easily use.
Some permits are easy and free,
some you and I cannot get (unless you are the right tribe or have strong
cultural connections).
Examples;
The Kokoda Trail is not 'owned' by the permit authority.
Here the Trail goes through many villages and is administered by a government
appointed body.
The practice here is to get a permit from the authority and not bother with the
property owners.
Typically normal people will use a guided 'tour' and that organisation will be
registered with the authority and get the individual permits.
The Woomera Prohibited Areas (e.g. way 436098551) again are not 'owned' by the
authority.
These areas have both the rocket range and property owners.
The range operators have provided the property owners with shelters -
most of the property owners use the shelters as cool places to shelter from
the heat (as well as rockets).
Here I would hope that people wanting access would negotiate with both the
permit system and the private property owner.
The permit system ensures that travellers are not present when the rockets are
being fired.
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There is enough difference that it should be tagged together with the way that
permits can be obtained.
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