On 19-Sep-17 03:56 AM, Kevin Kenny wrote:
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 12:37 PM, joost schouppe
<joost.schou...@gmail.com <mailto:joost.schou...@gmail.com>> wrote:
That said, even if this hivemind of ours (and let me add to that
"one of us, one of us, one of us") maybe does not like an extra
value for the access key, I see no reason why you would need to
use another database. There are very many things which are not
mapped by just one key, but by many keys combined. You just need a
key to classify WHY a thing has a certain access key. I see
someone already suggested
permit=registration_at_entry/registration_offsite/online/lottery.
That could work as a subtag: access:permit=*, foot:permit=*. You
could then simply tag it as *:permit=yes meaning "there is some
permitting process in place". That would save you the hassle of
defining all the many different permitting schemes. It would of
course best be extended with some information about the difficulty
of the process (on arrival, in advance and simple, in advance and
complicated) and contact information. That would also be quite
useful to extend the limited model now used on Low Emission Zones
(see
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dlow_emission_zone
<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dlow_emission_zone>).
It would certainly be better then the
now-used access=green_sticker_germany :)
Similar things were counterproposed the last time I had mentioned this.
The reason that I don't like it as much is that the 'permit=*' stuff
then grew layer upon layer of qualifiers in the discussion - the
denizens of 'tagging' got bogged down with trying to simplify the
messy, human-centered process of access control into a few keys, and
got nowhere.
The real-life sign says, "Access by permit only, for information
contact..." and that's what I propose to map!
Yep.
I think the important thing is the contact information - this is where
the detail of what is required can be obtained rather than having those
details in OSM.
It is the details that vary a lot from place to place and maybe too
varied around the world for renders to be bothered with. It might just
change from time to time, rather not have the dynamic stuff on OSM?
So access=permit with permit_contact:web/email/phone/*=* ???
Would that be a compromise 'we' can all use?
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