On 26-Jan-17 12:34 PM, John Willis wrote:
On Jan 26, 2017, at 12:45 AM, Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org
<mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org>> wrote:
Usually just a vending machine in a cage and some overused,
under-maintained toilets and lots of parking.
yea, i’m more familiar with the view points (Interstate 5 near camp
Pendleton) and that style of crap rest area near Castaic lake. Maybe
the map stop on interstate 8 as you come into san diego. I have driven
300,000 miles in California, and those are the 3 I can name. they are
usually barren dirty places you stop at only if you have to. all the
SA/PA/ road stations are places you hope you can stop at here in
Japan. They are usually very nice.
'Rest Areas' in Australia are variable .. some have toilets. All have an
area to pull off the main road. Very few have bins. Fewer still have water.
Where there is no formal toilet you can expect to find random places
used as toilets ... and some of these allow the used toilet paper to
blow around.
Entering a 'rest area' is done with preparation to keep going without
stopping.
Some people have marked these 'rest areas' as camp sites in OSM ... I
would never stop at such a place, ok for RV and caravans where you can
lock the outside out, but camping, never.
I have stopped at 20 different SA/PA in Japan in the last month. I
have been to.. 15 road stations (?) in 5 years. They are so different.
On Jan 25, 2017, at 11:08 PM, tomoya muramoto
<muramototom...@gmail.com <mailto:muramototom...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I just think Michi-no-eki is not "highway=*" category
The Road stations are specifically made for driving tourists in the
same manner as an SA/PA, so they are in the same category.
Both SA and PA are in the road space, as should road stations.
The wiki for rest_area shows some lonely picnic benches - not a row of
shops selling food and souvenirs. the
The new PA (a rest area) on the Kita-kanto is this: a little bit of
grass, a vending machine, and a nice toilets.
I would never consider the two road stations I linked to in the same
class: 2 restaurants, a motorcycle museum, a souvenir shop, etc.
Maybe this is because there is such a huge disparity between a
rest_area in the US and a nice road station.
The rest_area wiki page:
Some are set further back in the form of short loops of service road,
and may feature mobile fast food outlets, toilets etc.
To me, the presence of shops and amenities vs a lonely toilet is a big
difference, But t seems that gasoline is the dividing line between
=services and =rest_area.
perhaps the combination of:
highway=rest_area
+
retail=road_station
is a good solution.
Javbw.
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