On 28/12/2015 10:11 AM, tomoya muramoto wrote:
Hi all,
I understand your proposal. But I think "landuse=forestry" should be
consistent with "landuse=farmland/farmyard".
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dfarmland
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dfarmyard
Then "tree area" would be "landuse=forest-land", and "forester's
house" would be "landuse=forest-yard". (Of course more appropriate
words should be chosen.)
Landuse=orchard does not have this 'problem'? And landuse=vineyard would
be very confusing!!!!
And the recent discussion on swimming pools and their change rooms etc
has a suggestion that all the things can exist under one tag.
If people want to tag those .. well they will be buildings for the saw
mill and drying shed .. so they can be separately tagged if desired.
If really needed then landuse=forestry_yard could be used?
However I think we should clarify how to distinguish
landuse/landcover(/surface) first as these proposals.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/landcover
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Rudolf/draft_landcover
Those proposals/ideas have been in existence for years.
Simple definitions of;
Land USE is what humans use the land for.
Land COVER is what you see covering the surface of the globe.
I think that is fairly clear?
The problems arise from the values of these keys and the way in which
people use them.
I am trying to get a good value that reduces the confusion and mixed use
of landuse=forest tag to something better?
Rudolf suggests that landuse=forest be transferred to landcover - thus
again demonstrating a problem with landuse=forest!
The common understanding of the word 'forest' is .. an area of trees.
This is not an active 'use'.
The common understanding of the word 'forestry' is .. an activity that
uses trees to make products. This is a 'use'.
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Landcover ... is a separate topic that would take much discussion ...
you can see it from my initial addition to Rudolf page -
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Rudolf/draft_landcover ...
muramoto
Thanks... interesting views on the farmland and farmyard thing that I
was not aware of.
2015-12-28 6:31 GMT+09:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com
<mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>>:
On 28/12/2015 3:42 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2015 11:43:00 +1100
Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
Hi,
The present multiple applications landuse=forest has me
thinking that
a new tag of
landuse=forestry
maybe best to focus this new tag onto a specific forest
use - that of
wood production.
In the longer term the tag landuse=forest can eventually be
depreciated .. people can migrate the older tagged things into
Use;
landuse=forestry for wood producing areas
leisure=nature_reserve for areas of nature preservation
natural=wood for areas covered with trees not used
Note that landuse=forestry would include areas not covered by
trees and
used for forestry. Starting from forester's house
( https://pl.wiktionary.org/wiki/le%C5%9Bnicz%C3%B3wka#pl ).
Yes!
land use = forestry. To do with growing trees and making stuff
from them.
Thus the saw mill, drying and storage sheds. A residence ... not
certain of.
Are residences of factory workers included in a landuse=factory?
To indicate that trees are there ... i.e. land cover ...
landcover=trees.
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