The <abbr> element is giving semantic context with type=“nomSac”.
Adding overline as a type to <hi> is a good thing, since hi is meant as a means of highlighting text. Agree that using it to mark semantic meaning is bad. I like the suggestion of <name type=“nomSac”>, too (or what ever we settle on, x-nomSac, prefixed or otherwise.) IMHO, CrossWire has effectively become the custodian of OSIS, so we can manage changes to it. But it is an abbreviation so, <abbr> is appropriate. As Peter notes, the change in the SWORD engine is straightforward. Ditto for JSword. DM > On Mar 15, 2025, at 6:58 AM, Arnaud Vié <unas.zole+a...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Ah, so I was indeed missing something ! Thanks David for the clarification. > > I still think using <hi> is not a satisfying solution though, as it loses > semantic information that OSIS is supposed to preserve. > OSIS does provide a more generic <name type="..."> tag that could be used. > The currently supported name types are "geographic", "holiday", "nonhuman", > "person", "ritual", but x-prefixed extensions are also allowed. > So a <name type="x-nominasacra"> for example (with proper handling in sword) > would be more appropriate - though of course the rendering for it would have > to be implemented. > > > Le sam. 15 mars 2025 à 11:46, David Haslam <dfh...@protonmail.com > <mailto:dfh...@protonmail.com>> a écrit : >> Arnaud, >> >> The divineName is used only for the Tetragrammaton and its conjugates from >> the Hebrew OT. The SWORD engine renders such using small-caps. >> >> Nomina Sacra are a quite different matter. Refer to the Wikipedia article. >> >> Even the name Jerusalem has a Nomen Sacrum in some MSS. >> >> David >> >> Sent from Proton Mail <https://proton.me/mail/home> for iOS >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 10:31, Arnaud Vié < unas.zole+a...@gmail.com >> <mailto:On+Sat,+Mar+15,+2025+at+10:31,+Arnaud+Vi%C3%A9+%3C%3Ca+href=>> wrote: >>> >>> Maybe I'm missing something, but for the "nomina sacra" use case, why are >>> you not using the dedicated semantic <divineName> tag ? >>> >>> OSIS is designed to store semantic markup when possible, rather than >>> formatting information. >>> The OSIS manual clearly specifies that "The hi element is reserved for >>> cases where the reason for the highlighting or other typographic >>> distinction is unknown." Here, you know what the reason is, and OSIS >>> provides a dedicated tag for your use case. So using <hi> here is actually >>> a misusage as far as OSIS is concerned. >>> >>> The more correct course of action would be using <divineName>, and ensuring >>> that the rendering code in SWORD is applying a proper formatting to this >>> divineName tag. >>> (Or even better, allow bibles to carry "stylesheets" to customise the >>> rendering of tags per-bible without sacrificing the semantic information - >>> but that's a matter for another day). >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Arnaud >>> >>> >>> >>> Le sam. 15 mars 2025 à 04:53, David Haslam < dfh...@protonmail.com >>> <mailto:dfh...@protonmail.com>> a écrit : >>>> I've now documented some of this in the developers' wiki, under a new >>>> section for Text styles. >>>> >>>> OSIS Bibles - CrossWire Bible Society >>>> <https://wiki.crosswire.org/OSIS_Bibles#Text_styles> >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>>> Sent with Proton Mail <https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G> secure email. >>>> >>>> On Saturday, March 15th, 2025 at 12:48 AM, DM Smith < >>>> dmsm...@crosswire.org <mailto:dmsm...@crosswire.org>> wrote: >>>>> Your question is really whether it is buggy. it looks good to me, >>>>> Really, Troy has a module for which it works. There may be a future >>>>> latex, html, xhtml, tei, …. that might find a problem and find a bug. >>>>> >>>>> There is an incomplete test suite (all test suites are incomplete!) that >>>>> could be improved with fuller input. Maybe this too. >>>>> >>>>> So much of our software development is, “works for me” I’ll go on to the >>>>> next thing. That’s what I do. If someone finds a problem, then I’ll fix >>>>> it. >>>>> >>>>> DM >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 14, 2025, at 12:45 PM, David Haslam < dfh...@protonmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:dfh...@protonmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Troy, 😀 >>>>>> >>>>>> Your replies were clearly intended to be read by coders! 🥸 >>>>>> >>>>>> Has anyone tested this bit of code yet? >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> David >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent with Proton Mail <https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G> secure email. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, March 14th, 2025 at 4:38 PM, Troy A. Griffitts < >>>>>> scr...@crosswire.org <mailto:scr...@crosswire.org>> wrote: >>>>>>> I believe we support this in SWORD: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ``` >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [tgriffitts@fedora filters]$ grep overline * >>>>>>> osishtmlhref.cpp: else if (type == "ol" || type == "overline" || type >>>>>>> == "x-overline") { >>>>>>> osishtmlhref.cpp: outText("<span style=\"text-decoration:overline\">", >>>>>>> buf, u); >>>>>>> osislatex.cpp: // there is no officially supported OSIS overline >>>>>>> attribute, >>>>>>> osislatex.cpp: // thus either TEI overline or OSIS x-overline would be >>>>>>> best, >>>>>>> osislatex.cpp: // OSIS overline attribute is made available, these >>>>>>> should all >>>>>>> osislatex.cpp: else if (type == "ol" || type == "overline" || type == >>>>>>> "x-overline") { >>>>>>> osislatex.cpp: outText("\\textoverline{", buf, u); >>>>>>> osisplain.cpp: // there is no officially supported OSIS overline >>>>>>> attribute, >>>>>>> osisplain.cpp: // thus either TEI overline or OSIS x-overline would be >>>>>>> best, >>>>>>> osisplain.cpp: // OSIS overline attribute is made available, these >>>>>>> should all >>>>>>> osisplain.cpp: if (strstr(token, "rend=\"ol\"") || strstr(token, >>>>>>> "rend=\"x-overline\"") || strstr(token, "rend=\"overline\"") >>>>>>> osisplain.cpp: || strstr(token, "type=\"ol\"") || strstr(token, >>>>>>> "type=\"x-overline\"") || strstr(token, "type=\"overline\"")) { >>>>>>> osisplain.cpp: u->hiType = "overline"; >>>>>>> osisplain.cpp: if (u->hiType == "overline") { >>>>>>> osisxhtml.cpp: .overline { text-decoration: overline; }\n\ >>>>>>> osisxhtml.cpp: // there is no officially supported OSIS overline >>>>>>> attribute, >>>>>>> osisxhtml.cpp: // thus either TEI overline or OSIS x-overline would be >>>>>>> best, >>>>>>> osisxhtml.cpp: // OSIS overline attribute is made available, these >>>>>>> should all >>>>>>> osisxhtml.cpp: else if (type == "ol" || type == "overline" || type == >>>>>>> "x-overline") { >>>>>>> osisxhtml.cpp: outText("<span class=\"overline\">", buf, u); >>>>>>> teihtmlhref.cpp: else if (rend == "overline") >>>>>>> teihtmlhref.cpp: buf += "<span style=\"text-decoration:overline\">"; >>>>>>> teihtmlhref.cpp: else if (rend == "overline") >>>>>>> teilatex.cpp: else if (rend == "overline") >>>>>>> teilatex.cpp: buf += "\\overline{"; >>>>>>> teixhtml.cpp: else if (rend == "overline") >>>>>>> teixhtml.cpp: buf += "<span style=\"text-decoration:overline\">"; >>>>>>> teixhtml.cpp: else if (rend == "overline") >>>>>>> ``` >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3/14/25 3:31 PM, David Haslam wrote: >>>>>>>> Thanks DM, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As and when we get a fix on this for SWORD as well as JSword, we >>>>>>>> should add a suitable description in OSIS Bibles - CrossWire Bible >>>>>>>> Society <https://wiki.crosswire.org/OSIS_Bibles#Miscellaneous> >>>>>>>> We might even use the nomen-sacrum case as the illustrated example. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can anyone familiar with how SWORD works tell us whether >>>>>>>> <hi rend="overline" > θς </hi> >>>>>>>> would be correctly rendered by SWORD? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And would we need to specify this within an eXtended type attribute >>>>>>>> value (one with an "x-" prefix) for the abbr element? >>>>>>>> <abbr type="x-nomSac"> >>>>>>>> <hi rend="overline" > θς </hi> >>>>>>>> </abbr> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> David >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent with Proton Mail <https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G> secure email. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Friday, March 14th, 2025 at 1:58 PM, DM Smith >>>>>>>> <dmsm...@crosswire.org> <mailto:dmsm...@crosswire.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Regarding JSword, it supports some TEI within OSIS. Specifically it >>>>>>>>> supports hi with TEI’s attribute rend in addition to OSIS’s attribute >>>>>>>>> type. Chris Little directed that this should be so. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It has been a long time since we discussed this, so my memory might >>>>>>>>> be faulty that OSIS was based on TEI and SWORD/JSword would allow >>>>>>>>> some TEI constructs with the OSIS filter. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> JSword needs a small, easy change to support overline. At this time, >>>>>>>>> it will show the text without any decoration. It should be added to >>>>>>>>> our edition of OSIS. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 14, 2025, at 4:55 AM, David Haslam <dfh...@protonmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:dfh...@protonmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Troy, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Does SWORD support an OSIS equivalent to this TEI snippet? >>>>>>>>>> <abbr type="nomSac"> >>>>>>>>>> <hi rend="overline"> θς </hi> >>>>>>>>>> </abbr> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Not asking about the abbr element, but the rend="overline" attribute >>>>>>>>>> for the hi element. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Rendering text with overline is not documented in the OSIS User >>>>>>>>>> Manual. >>>>>>>>>> Has this ever been tested in SWORD front-ends? >>>>>>>>>> How about JSword-based apps? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> David >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent with Proton Mail <https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G> secure email. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Friday, March 14th, 2025 at 8:48 AM, David Haslam >>>>>>>>>> <dfh...@protonmail.com> <mailto:dfh...@protonmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Follow-up... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The screenshot image in my previous reply is what I saw in Safari >>>>>>>>>>> when I clicked Troy's link while viewing messages from my iPad Mini >>>>>>>>>>> 4. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now that I've done likewise while viewing messages from my Windows >>>>>>>>>>> 11 PC, I see a proper XML file via the Edge browser! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <w> >>>>>>>>>>> <abbr type="nomSac" > >>>>>>>>>>> <hi rend="overline" > θς </hi> >>>>>>>>>>> </abbr> >>>>>>>>>>> </w> >>>>>>>>>>> <w> τον </w> >>>>>>>>>>> <w> κοσμον </w> >>>>>>>>>>> <pc> · </pc> >>>>>>>>>>> <lb/> >>>>>>>>>>> <w> ωστε </w> >>>>>>>>>>> <w> τον </w> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Just shows that WYSINAWYG ! 🥸 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> David >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent with Proton Mail <https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G> secure email. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, March 14th, 2025 at 6:40 AM, David Haslam >>>>>>>>>>> <dfh...@protonmail.com> <mailto:dfh...@protonmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <106d2d31-021b-436b-80ed-0686abfbff3a_image.png> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Troy, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Above is what I see after I clicked your link! Not sure if that’s >>>>>>>>>>>> what you intended. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> David >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 23:52, Troy A. Griffitts < >>>>>>>>>>>> scr...@crosswire.org >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:On+Thu,+Mar+13,+2025+at+23:52,+Troy+A.+Griffitts+%3C%3Ca+href=>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is how we record nomen sacrum in TEI and should transfer to >>>>>>>>>>>>> OSIS just fine, e.g., >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://ntvmr.uni-muenster.de/community/vmr/api/transcript/get/?docID=20001&indexContent=John.3.16&format=teiraw >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/13/25 4:28 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the best and correct way is to call this ‘display’ and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> encode the exact look you want to achieve via style sheet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: sword-devel <sword-devel-boun...@crosswire.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sword-devel-boun...@crosswire.org> on behalf of David >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haslam <dfh...@protonmail.com> <mailto:dfh...@protonmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2025 2:34 pm >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Alan Bunning <greekc...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:greekc...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: sword-devel mailing list <sword-devel@crosswire.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: [modules] New Beta Module: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> StatResGNT >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would also require that we devise a means to encode in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OSIS the equivalent to what was used in the underlying Wiki >>>>>>>>>>>>>> format ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> {{overline|ΘΥ}} >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I doubt if the SWORD engine has a means to implement that! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> David >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent with Proton Mail <https://proton.me/mail/home> secure email. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 2:22 PM, David Haslam >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dfh...@protonmail.com> <mailto:dfh...@protonmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Alan, for the explanation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This then prompts a suggestion as to the potential use of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OSIS abbr element for each instance. This would require that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> each type of nomina sacrum would then need to be retained as the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> abbreviation, and then expanded using the XML attribute, e.g. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <abbr expansion="Θεοῦ"> ΘΥ </abbr> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please refer to the OSIS User Manual section 13.2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> NB. I don't know whether the SWORD engine has any code to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> display the expansions! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The coders might enlighten us on this point. I have therefore >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cc: to sword-devel in this reply. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> David >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent with Proton Mail <https://proton.me/mail/home> secure email. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 1:45 PM, Alan Bunning >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <greekc...@gmail.com> <mailto:greekc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, that symbol is used to mark nomina sacra. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan Bunning, D.Litt. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Executive Director >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Center for New Testament Restoration >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://greekcntr.org <https://greekcntr.org/> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/13/2025 9:42 AM, Kovács Zoltán wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Alan, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I received the following emails. I haven't looked into them very >>>>>>>>>>>>>> much, but maybe you want to join the conversation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blessings, Zoltan >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feladó: David Haslam < dfh...@protonmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:dfh...@protonmail.com>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 2025. márc. 13., Cs, 14:37 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [modules] New Beta Module: StatResGNT >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: pierre amadio < amadio.pie...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:amadio.pie...@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Kovács Zoltán < kov...@gmail.com <mailto:kov...@gmail.com>>, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> < modu...@crosswire.org <mailto:modu...@crosswire.org>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Pierre, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a very plausible explanation! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here are the relevant lines from my word count. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Word Count >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Θεέ 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Θεοῦ 690 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Θεόν 73 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Θεός 68 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Θεὸν 72 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Θεὸς 239 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Θεῷ 158 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Κυρίου 231 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Κυρίῳ 95 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Κύριε 89 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Κύριον 63 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Κύριος 139 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Κύριόν 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Κύριός 10 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Πνεύματι 59 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Πνεύματος 79 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Πνεύματός 5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Πνεῦμά 7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Πνεῦμα 99 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Χριστέ 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Χριστοῦ 252 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Χριστόν 18 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Χριστός 41 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Χριστὸν 48 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Χριστὸς 71 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Χριστῷ 104 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚θεὸς 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Ἰησοῦ 329 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Ἰησοῦν 126 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Ἰησοῦς 456 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> NB. If this is a technical means to mark the use of nomina >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sacra, then it ought to be described in the conf file! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> David >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent with Proton Mail <https://proton.me/mail/home> secure email. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 1:11 PM, pierre amadio >>>>>>>>>>>>>> amadio.pie...@gmail.com <mailto:amadio.pie...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi there. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as I know, there is no such greek accent as a circular >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark >>>>>>>>>>>>>> such as Ring Above (U+02DA). >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking at the source text, they seem to always appears next to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> words such as >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/Center-for-New-Testament-Restoration/SR/blob/main/SR.txt >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Ἰησοῦ ˚Χριστοῦ, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Πνεύματος >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ˚Κυρίου >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could it be a way to mark the use of a nomina sacra in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> manuscripts ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomina_sacra >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 at 13:38, Kovács Zoltán kov...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:kov...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, David, I will look into it and get back to you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, Zoltan >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Haslam dfh...@protonmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:dfh...@protonmail.com> ezt írta (időpont: 2025. márc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13., Cs, 13:33): >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arising from the grapheme count, I have a further technical >>>>>>>>>>>>>> query. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are 3626 instances of U+02DA RING ABOVE. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am wondering whether these would be better being all replaced >>>>>>>>>>>>>> by U+030A COMBINING RING ABOVE, and if so, whether the mark >>>>>>>>>>>>>> should follow the Greek letter rather than precede it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> NB. My knowledge of Ancient Greek accents rules is fairly >>>>>>>>>>>>>> limited. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Q. What is the most suitable Unicode font for viewing a Greek NT >>>>>>>>>>>>>> text? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Might it be sensible to include such an element in the .conf >>>>>>>>>>>>>> file? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> David >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent with Proton Mail secure email. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 12:13 PM, David Haslam >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dfh...@protonmail.com <mailto:dfh...@protonmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kovács, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using BabelPad Tools, I have just done a grapheme count on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> full Greek text with accents. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> i.e. After first stripping out the references from the diatheke >>>>>>>>>>>>>> output. See inside attached 7-Zip file. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are two left/right count mismatches that ought to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> looked at. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018 ‘ 483 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2019 ’ 484 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 201C “ 1,904 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 201D ” 1,907 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cf. The counts of left/right parentheses were OK. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0028 ( 62 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0029 ) 62 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> David >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent with Proton Mail secure email. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 11:59 AM, David Haslam >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dfh...@protonmail.com <mailto:dfh...@protonmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This module has the wrong Versification. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a Greek NT and therefore LXX is simply the wrong choice! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please fix this ASAP. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dom, Please also fix any bug in your script that led to this >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mistake! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> David >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent with Proton Mail secure email. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 12th, 2025 at 5:52 PM, dom...@crosswire.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:dom...@crosswire.org> dom...@crosswire.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:dom...@crosswire.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is to announce that we have just now uploaded StatResGNT >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the CrossWire beta repository for testing purposes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If no raised concern nor a quality alert has been sent on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> list, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> StatResGNT will be published in a week. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is an update. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Language=Ancient Greek (to 1453) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version=1.3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> History_1.3=(2025-03-12) Update to newest release (last database >>>>>>>>>>>>>> change: 2024-07-16) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> TextSource=https://github.com/Center-for-New-Testament-Restoration/SR/blob/master/SR.txt >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Versification=LXX >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks to Kovács_Zoltán for the hard work. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> yours >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> P.S.: This email is sent automatically. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> modules mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>> modu...@crosswire.org <mailto:modu...@crosswire.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/modules >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org> >>>>>>>>>> http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>>>>>>>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>>>> <mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org> >>>>>>>> http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>>>>>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>>>> <mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org> >>>>>> http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>>>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>> <mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org> >>>> http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page >> _______________________________________________ >> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org >> <mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org> >> http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
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