Dear Yvand,
This is all very good news. Personally I would keep things simple with
as few modules from the same Bible as possible. Before I do, I'd like to
share with you that I was recently asked to help work on the Segond
Bible on wikisource. (https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Bible_Segond_1910)
I think it's a very good place to store the original text, especially as
we benefit from the support of the whole wikisource community, and
what's more we have a tool that makes it easy to download bibles from
wikisource and convert them to usfm or osis. Work carried out by Arnaud
Vié, whom which I've copied. I don't know how useful it will be for you,
but I find it very easy to correct typos on wikisource. So my first
suggestion would be to see if you'd agree to us making it the reference
in terms of source text. There's also the facsimile.
Then for the module, my advice is to leave only one module on either
ebible or crosswire. This avoids unnecessary maintenance. It's true
that working with Michael, who is responsible for ebible, is quite
convenient. He's responsive and updates his bibles automatically. I
think he could give you access to his server via bibledit so that you
could easily get the updates automatically! It's a real convenience for
me as I work on the Crampon.
Finally, would it be possible to have your tools to put strong on the
Crampon? I've already done it, automating the work with Michael's tools.
But it's true that there are errors that need to be corrected, and maybe
yours would be more accurate.
Br Cyrille
Le 02/11/2024 à 08:49, yvand a écrit :
Dear all,
I am a member of a small group of French people working on French
Bible translations and Strong's numbers. Since years, we worked on
affecting Strong's numbers (OT+NT) and French lemmas in about 10
French Bible versions. Originally a person worked in Excel years ago,
we now migrated to XML and use a website with backend to update
affectations. Our work is "multi translation". For public domain
versions, we freely give the text with Strong's numbers. We only
request a mention about our association with a link to our website
(https://concordance.bible/). I already submitted French Darby version
with Strong's numbers in Crosswire (see FreJND sword module).
For *Segond 1910*, the text is in public domain. I used mod2imp to get
the text from the FreSegond (Crosswire) module months ago. The only
changes we made are about versification. Indeed all our texts use the
same versification (based on WLC, for OT = German in sword), so the
text matches the original (hebrew WLC or greek MT/WH) one and we can
easily compare translations.
In the past, the *FreLSG* module had Strong's numbers. If I am correct
(see discussion "Strong numbers for Louis Segond" in 2013/07), we do
not have the authorization (but still available in STEP) so this
module has been removed or replaced by *FreSegond* module (renamed ?).
The *fraLSG1910eb* (*F10*) module is a more recent one, available in
e-bible repo with headings, WoC and Strong's numbers. It seems to be a
work in progress for Strong's numbers. They are not available for all
books. I compare Strong's numbers affectations for the first verses of
Genesis 1 (see attached screenshot) but there are errors in this
module. On the left this module, on the right our data
(https://concordance.bible/Sg1910/Gen/1/).
*So I contact all of you (especially actual maintainers of Segond 1910
modules and French users) what would be the best way of giving our
Strong's numbers for Segond 1910 in a sword module.* I don't know who
is concerned or interested that's why I send to the mailing list.
As there is already many existing Segond 1910 sword module, it guess
it would not be a good idea of creating a new one. On one side, as our
text is based from FreSegond module, it might be a good idea of
updating this module with Strong's numbers (the only difference is
versification). On the other hand, the fraLSG1910eb module offers
Strong's numbers but our data seems more accurate and complete, so it
could be interesting of updating this module. In any case, it would be
important to submit updates regularly for Strong's numbers.
Regards in Christ
yvand
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