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Problem is as most engineers know the result of room reflections is generally comb filtering not increased spatialisation. Even if you could somehow get this to work the time of the reflections would depend on room size, the materials on the wall etc etc. It would be great if someone could just invent bluetooth quad (or more) then you could happily just deposit four cable free bluetooth speakers around the room and be done with all this nonsense. On Tue, 28 May 2019 at 08:38, Augustine Leudar <augustineleu...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thats interesting - ive always wanted to hear transaural actually working > - I've only tried Spat. However this would require the content producers > (sound designers) to actually add HRTFs and use software to render > trnasaural filters the same as binaural - and most d not , genrally its > just the same stereo content used on two speakers produced over a soundbar. > Even a soundbar isnt intelligent enough to decide which sounds should > appear where, marvelous though they are. > > On Tue, 28 May 2019 at 01:55, Aaron Heller <ajhel...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The soundbars I've heard sound like they use crosstalk cancellation (aka >> transaural stereo) to achieve surround effects. I believe the work of >> Edgar >> Choueiri and his students at Princeton represents the state of the art in >> that area. >> https://www.princeton.edu/3D3A/index.html >> >> Also Ralph Glasgal, an occasional poster on sursound -- >> http://www.ambiophonics.org >> >> Aaron (hel...@ai.sri.com) >> Menlo Park, CA US >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 4:43 PM Augustine Leudar < >> augustineleu...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > Hi Douglas - >> > I dont think he was referring to Atmos soundbars just Atmos in general . >> > Atmos will of course work nicely being a 9.1 (or is it 11.1 ?) bed with >> > objects operating within that over an unlimited number of speakers (or >> is >> > it 128 max) - as such its true surround (in that the speakers od >> actually >> > surround the litener); . >> > However its not particularily innovative in that it combines stuff thats >> > been around for years - (ambisonics can decode to different speaker >> arrays >> > from one file for example and I assume the objects move around using >> > amplitude panning). Then youve got things like DBAP which have the >> > potential to create far more convincing 3D audio scenes that ATMOS and >> > thats been around a lot longer. >> > But no here we just refer to soundbars in general I think. I find it >> very >> > unlikely though that an "ATMOS" soundbar would give the impression of a >> > sound being behind the listener than a basical quad setup where there >> > actually are two speakers behind the listener. >> > I agree placebo definately plays a role in a lot of spatial audio. >> > >> > On Mon, 27 May 2019 at 22:00, Douglas Murray <dmur...@well.com> wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > > On May 27, 2019, at 12:09 PM, mgraves mstvp.com <mgra...@mstvp.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > See also Dolby Atmos. Yet another triumph of marketing over reality. >> > > Dolby is especially good in that arena. >> > > > >> > > > Michael Graves >> > > >> > > Michael, >> > > >> > > Are you referring to the Dolby Atmos sound bars and ceiling bouncing >> > > speakers? If so I agree. But as a film sound designer, I don’t believe >> I am >> > > succumbing to marketing hype when I say that Dolby Atmos in a cinema >> > > setting, with its full range surrounds and speakers in what were gaps >> near >> > > the screen, is a real improvement over other earlier surround formats >> for >> > > cinema. Clearly Dolby is trying to generate profits from the mass home >> > > market rather than only from the small cinema world. It’s probable >> that >> any >> > > sound bar, whether “Atmos” or not, will be an upgrade for whomever >> buys >> it, >> > > so happy customers, even if the hype is not lived up to. Maybe it’s >> the >> > > placebo effect that makes these things work? >> > > >> > > Doug Murray >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Sursound mailing list >> > > Sursound@music.vt.edu >> > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe >> here, >> > > edit account or options, view archives and so on. >> > > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Dr. Augustine Leudar >> > Artistic Director Magik Door LTD >> > Company Number : NI635217 >> > Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, >> > Belfast BT88LL >> > www.magikdoor.net >> > +44(0)7555784775 >> > -------------- next part -------------- >> > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> > URL: < >> >> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190528/009dadc7/attachment.html >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Sursound mailing list >> > Sursound@music.vt.edu >> > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, >> edit account or options, view archives and so on. >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190527/f7ae4d66/attachment.html >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Sursound mailing list >> Sursound@music.vt.edu >> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, >> edit account or options, view archives and so on. >> > > > -- > Dr. Augustine Leudar > Artistic Director Magik Door LTD > Company Number : NI635217 > Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, > Belfast BT88LL > www.magikdoor.net > +44(0)7555784775 > > -- Dr. Augustine Leudar Artistic Director Magik Door LTD Company Number : NI635217 Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, Belfast BT88LL www.magikdoor.net +44(0)7555784775 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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