The soundbars I've heard sound like they use crosstalk cancellation (aka transaural stereo) to achieve surround effects. I believe the work of Edgar Choueiri and his students at Princeton represents the state of the art in that area. https://www.princeton.edu/3D3A/index.html
Also Ralph Glasgal, an occasional poster on sursound -- http://www.ambiophonics.org Aaron (hel...@ai.sri.com) Menlo Park, CA US On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 4:43 PM Augustine Leudar <augustineleu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Douglas - > I dont think he was referring to Atmos soundbars just Atmos in general . > Atmos will of course work nicely being a 9.1 (or is it 11.1 ?) bed with > objects operating within that over an unlimited number of speakers (or is > it 128 max) - as such its true surround (in that the speakers od actually > surround the litener); . > However its not particularily innovative in that it combines stuff thats > been around for years - (ambisonics can decode to different speaker arrays > from one file for example and I assume the objects move around using > amplitude panning). Then youve got things like DBAP which have the > potential to create far more convincing 3D audio scenes that ATMOS and > thats been around a lot longer. > But no here we just refer to soundbars in general I think. I find it very > unlikely though that an "ATMOS" soundbar would give the impression of a > sound being behind the listener than a basical quad setup where there > actually are two speakers behind the listener. > I agree placebo definately plays a role in a lot of spatial audio. > > On Mon, 27 May 2019 at 22:00, Douglas Murray <dmur...@well.com> wrote: > > > > > > On May 27, 2019, at 12:09 PM, mgraves mstvp.com <mgra...@mstvp.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > See also Dolby Atmos. Yet another triumph of marketing over reality. > > Dolby is especially good in that arena. > > > > > > Michael Graves > > > > Michael, > > > > Are you referring to the Dolby Atmos sound bars and ceiling bouncing > > speakers? If so I agree. But as a film sound designer, I don’t believe I am > > succumbing to marketing hype when I say that Dolby Atmos in a cinema > > setting, with its full range surrounds and speakers in what were gaps near > > the screen, is a real improvement over other earlier surround formats for > > cinema. Clearly Dolby is trying to generate profits from the mass home > > market rather than only from the small cinema world. It’s probable that any > > sound bar, whether “Atmos” or not, will be an upgrade for whomever buys it, > > so happy customers, even if the hype is not lived up to. Maybe it’s the > > placebo effect that makes these things work? > > > > Doug Murray > > _______________________________________________ > > Sursound mailing list > > Sursound@music.vt.edu > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > > > > > -- > Dr. Augustine Leudar > Artistic Director Magik Door LTD > Company Number : NI635217 > Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, > Belfast BT88LL > www.magikdoor.net > +44(0)7555784775 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190528/009dadc7/attachment.html > > _______________________________________________ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190527/f7ae4d66/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
