Hi Douglas -
I dont think he was referring to Atmos soundbars just Atmos in general .
Atmos will of course work nicely being a 9.1 (or is it 11.1 ?) bed with
objects operating  within that over an unlimited number of speakers (or is
it 128 max)  - as such its true surround (in that the speakers od actually
surround the litener);  .
However its not particularily innovative in that it combines stuff thats
been around for years -  (ambisonics can decode to different speaker arrays
from one file for example and I assume the objects move around using
amplitude panning). Then youve got things like DBAP which have the
potential to create far more convincing 3D audio scenes that ATMOS and
thats been around a lot longer.
But no here we just refer to soundbars in general I think. I find it very
unlikely though that an "ATMOS" soundbar would give the impression of a
sound being behind the listener than a basical quad setup where there
actually are two speakers behind the listener.
I agree  placebo definately plays a role in a lot of spatial audio.

On Mon, 27 May 2019 at 22:00, Douglas Murray <dmur...@well.com> wrote:

>
> > On May 27, 2019, at 12:09 PM, mgraves mstvp.com <mgra...@mstvp.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > See also Dolby Atmos. Yet another triumph of marketing over reality.
> Dolby is especially good in that arena.
> >
> > Michael Graves
>
> Michael,
>
> Are you referring to the Dolby Atmos sound bars and ceiling bouncing
> speakers? If so I agree. But as a film sound designer, I don’t believe I am
> succumbing to marketing hype when I say that Dolby Atmos in a cinema
> setting, with its full range surrounds and speakers in what were gaps near
> the screen, is a real improvement over other earlier surround formats for
> cinema. Clearly Dolby is trying to generate profits from the mass home
> market rather than only from the small cinema world. It’s probable that any
> sound bar, whether “Atmos” or not, will be an upgrade for whomever buys it,
> so happy customers, even if the hype is not lived up to. Maybe it’s the
> placebo effect that makes these things work?
>
> Doug Murray
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