You need to look at what the “components that require inspection” actually are, 
couple examples of exclusions:
5.2.1.1.3 *
Sprinklers installed in concealed spaces such as above suspended ceilings shall 
not require inspection.
5.2.2.3 *
Pipe and fittings installed in concealed spaces such as above suspended 
ceilings shall not require inspection.

Mike Morey
CFPS 3229 • NICET S.E.T. 123677
Project Estimator • Fire Protection Group
Shambaugh & Son, LP an EMCOR Company
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So Ron, this sounds like they have to remove sheet rock ceilings and ductwork 
before the inspector show up. Todd Williams Fire Protection Design/Consulting 
Stonington, CT 860-608-4559 On Aug 14, 2024 at 2: 51 PM, <Ron Greenman> wrote: 
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So Ron, this sounds like they have to remove sheet rock ceilings and ductwork 
before the inspector show up.

Todd Williams
Fire Protection Design/Consulting
Stonington, CT
860-608-4559



On Aug 14, 2024 at 2:51 PM, <Ron Greenman<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Here is a quote from an information sheet I made for owners quoting from the 
2014 edition of 25. I've not been playing since around 2019 so I have not 
updated it since that 2014 edition. I don't know what edition you're using or 
if the wording has changed since 2014, I would think that if you include your 
jurisdictio9n's most current version of this and a list of units you were not 
allowed access to as an addendum to your reports you should be OK. But I'm no 
lawyer nor play one on TV so check with a real one regarding your window of 
liability.

This is from NFPA 25, 2014 Edition: "Chapter 4 General Requirements, 4.1 
Responsibility of the Property Owner or Designated Representative, 4.1.1 
Responsibility for Inspection, Testing, Maintenance, and Impairment. The 
property owner or designated representative shall be responsible for properly 
maintaining a water- based fire protection system."

4.1.3 Accessibility. The property owner or designated representative shall 
provide ready accessibility to components of water-based fire protection 
systems that require inspection, testing, and maintenance.
A.4.1.3 The components are not required to be open or exposed. Doors, removable 
panels, or valve pits can be permitted to satisfy the need for accessibility. 
Such equipment should not be obstructed by features such as walls, ducts, 
columns, direct burial, or stock storage.

On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 7:53 AM 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I do not think so. I think there is/was commentary about using a ladder and or 
binoculars if needed.

Furthermore, I would not put my name on a tag for any sprinklers I could not 
see.

R/
Matt

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We have a chain of storage units that would like for us to conduct annual 
sprinkler inspections. The do not have access to the units that are being 
rented, but there is a gap above each door for air flow. Would we be stepping 
outside the realm of NFPA 25 if we utilized a ladder to see into each unit to 
perform the inspections?

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