You need to look at what the “components that require inspection” actually are, couple examples of exclusions: 5.2.1.1.3 * Sprinklers installed in concealed spaces such as above suspended ceilings shall not require inspection. 5.2.2.3 * Pipe and fittings installed in concealed spaces such as above suspended ceilings shall not require inspection.
Mike Morey CFPS 3229 • NICET S.E.T. 123677 Project Estimator • Fire Protection Group Shambaugh & Son, LP an EMCOR Company 7614 Opportunity Drive • Fort Wayne, IN • 46825 direct 260.487.7824 / cell 260.417.0625 / fax 260.487.7991 email [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [cid:[email protected]] From: Fpdcdesign <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2024 3:09 PM To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers <[email protected]> Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: Storage Unit Inspections So Ron, this sounds like they have to remove sheet rock ceilings and ductwork before the inspector show up. Todd Williams Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT 860-608-4559 On Aug 14, 2024 at 2: 51 PM, <Ron Greenman> wrote: Here ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart This Message Is From an External Sender This message originated outside your organization. ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd So Ron, this sounds like they have to remove sheet rock ceilings and ductwork before the inspector show up. Todd Williams Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT 860-608-4559 On Aug 14, 2024 at 2:51 PM, <Ron Greenman<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Here is a quote from an information sheet I made for owners quoting from the 2014 edition of 25. I've not been playing since around 2019 so I have not updated it since that 2014 edition. I don't know what edition you're using or if the wording has changed since 2014, I would think that if you include your jurisdictio9n's most current version of this and a list of units you were not allowed access to as an addendum to your reports you should be OK. But I'm no lawyer nor play one on TV so check with a real one regarding your window of liability. This is from NFPA 25, 2014 Edition: "Chapter 4 General Requirements, 4.1 Responsibility of the Property Owner or Designated Representative, 4.1.1 Responsibility for Inspection, Testing, Maintenance, and Impairment. The property owner or designated representative shall be responsible for properly maintaining a water- based fire protection system." 4.1.3 Accessibility. The property owner or designated representative shall provide ready accessibility to components of water-based fire protection systems that require inspection, testing, and maintenance. A.4.1.3 The components are not required to be open or exposed. Doors, removable panels, or valve pits can be permitted to satisfy the need for accessibility. Such equipment should not be obstructed by features such as walls, ducts, columns, direct burial, or stock storage. On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 7:53 AM <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I do not think so. I think there is/was commentary about using a ladder and or binoculars if needed. Furthermore, I would not put my name on a tag for any sprinklers I could not see. R/ Matt Matthew J. Willis, CWBSP, C.E.T. Ferguson Fire Design, LLC D: (602) 337-0721<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/(602)*20337-0721__;JQ!!FaxH778!aQirW4YfrHFaRwW2EZhFdGvHPnDuOnOTn24l6CwJQRkg9lhLOe53alVvzYrEhTGGCtJFHCB7S0ps6mCZvCc$> C: (307) 236-8249<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/(307)*20236-8249__;JQ!!FaxH778!aQirW4YfrHFaRwW2EZhFdGvHPnDuOnOTn24l6CwJQRkg9lhLOe53alVvzYrEhTGGCtJFHCB7S0psHJgsMY8$> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2024 8:41 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Storage Unit Inspections Caution: This email originated from outside of the organization. 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