In this part of the planet, contractors and engineers are told it is our 
responsibility to fill it out because it is in 13. I have gotten less than 5 
OCs in my career.   
  
  
  
  
Todd Williams     

  
Fire Protection Design/Consulting
  
Stonington, CT
  
860-608-4559
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
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> I have actually threatened to terminate our contract with cause in a couple 
> of situations.    Had to tell the clients that we are bound to follow the 
> provisions of the adopted codes and standards in our state, and the NFPA 13 
> standard mandates that they provide    us with the information that we need 
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> Date: 7/19/24 6:49 PM (GMT-08:00)
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> To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers  
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> Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: Gym Hazard Classification
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> > Is it just a “gym” or a multi-purpose building that will also be available 
> > for “community” uses?        Gym mats are one thing, rummage sales, craft 
> > fairs, job and college recruiting expos, church and other assemblies, those 
> > are different things.      Iagree that an athletic/sports facility such as 
> > a high-school or college gym is light hazard in the main room, but the 
> > school or college district or municipality that will own and operate this 
> > building should provide you with an articulate owner’s certificate before 
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> > From:   Adam Levine, P.E. [mailto:[email protected]]
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> > foam rock walls or anything complicated), how would most of you classify a 
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