I believe this would be considered bean and girder construction instead of
concrete tee but the same rules for obstructed construction would apply

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:43 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

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> In fact, there is a definition that a “tee”, has a bottom width less than
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> *From:* Jackie Ward <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 9, 2024 2:38 PM
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> *Subject:* [Sprinklerforum] Concrete Beams -- NFPA 13, 2016
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> I have 18” wide concrete beams extending 24” from the bottom of the deck
> on 7’-0” centers.
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> NFPA-13 (2016) 8.6.4.1.2 Obstructed Construction (5)* Installed with
> deflectors of sprinklers under concrete tee construction with stems spaced
> less than 71⁄2 ft (2.3 m) on centers, regardless of the depth of the tee,
> located at or above a horizontal plane 1 in. (25 mm) below the bottom of
> the stems of the tees and complying with Table 8.6.5.1.2.
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> A.8.6.4.1.2(5) For concrete joists spaced less than 3 ft (900 mm) on
> center, the rules for obstructed construction shown in 8.6.4.1.2 apply. For
> concrete tee construction with stems spaced less than 7 ft 6 in. (2.3 m) on
> center, the sprinkler deflector can be located at or above a horizontal
> plane 1 in. (25 mm) below the bottom of the stems of the tees. This
> includes sprinklers located between the stems. *[See Figure
> A.8.6.4.1.2(5).]*
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> I am getting caught up in semantics with the wording.  Would a concrete
> beam be interpreted the same as a concrete tee?
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> Am I allowed to install the deflectors above one-inch below the bottom of
> the beam in accordance with Table 8.6.5.1.2 as I would be if they were
> concrete tees, or will pocket protection be required?
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