The fire protection in this building and for this hazard should involve a fire 
protection engineer.

There will be lithium batteries, one pound propane tanks, and more.

Early detection and activation, as well as interlocks on equipment, in a very 
dusty environment should be considered. If it is unheated then dry systems and 
high ceiling heights affect the design.

There are more than just a few fires in these types of facilities that you can 
research and find on the internet.

Scott

From: Fpdcdesign <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2023 10:53 AM
To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers 
<[email protected]>
Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: Commodity Classification questions

I did one of these a while back. There is no good information in the Standards 
about this (unless there is something new). The problem is this could end up as 
a deep seated fire and the only real way to extinguish it is to pull all of the 
stuff out, look for hot spots and hit them with a hose. The closest thing I 
found was a vague reference to fire in piles of wood chips.

If you want to talk about it, give me a call sometime tomorrow

Todd G Williams, PE
Fire Protection Design/Consulting
Stonington, CT
860-535-2080<tel:860-535-2080> (ofc)
860-554-7054<tel:860-554-7054>  (fax)
860-608-4559<tel:860-608-4559> (cell)



On Nov 9, 2023 at 11:46 AM, <Tstone52<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
A local Solid Waste Company is building a new warehouse style building for 
receiving, Sorting, Bailing and short term storage of recyclables. Mechanical  
Sorting (Roughly 40,000 SF), will be used to sort Plastics, Paper/Cardboard and 
metal.
Storage will consist Bailed Paper, Bailed Plastic and Bailed Aluminum. Top of 
storage shall not exceed 15’-0 high. Roughly 27,000 SF of Storage. The bails 
are wrapped with metal bands or wire.

I am having trouble locating NFPA 13 information concerning storage of Bailed 
Materials and or deign information over the Processing/Sorting machinery.

Regards,
G. Tim Stone

G. Tim Stone Consulting, LLC
NICET Level III Engineering Technician
Fire Protection Sprinkler Design
and Consulting Services

   117 Old Stage Rd. - Essex Jct., VT. 05452
                 CELL: (802) 373-0638
             [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

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