On 13 Jan 2004 at 18:07, Alan Munday wrote:

<snip>

> If the mailer is a legitimate habeas user then surely they won't be sending
> mail that would rate as spam anyway?
> 
> So if the habeas test scores 0 it should make no difference.

Point the first:  There are many, many other filtering products in 
use in the real world which aren't as good as SpamAssassin.  Just 
because SA wouldn't rate a particular legitimate message as spam is 
by no means a guarantee it would successfully pass through other 
systems.  Many of those systems do recognize the Habeas SWE, however.

Point the second: Like it or not, there are a whole range of 
marketers out there who employ e-mail in a legitimate (ie, completely 
verifiably solicited) way, but who's marketing materials or 
newsletters or what have you will trigger false positives even with 
SA.

Those of us at the technical end of things often forget (or don't 
know) what it's like to be at the sales or marketing end of things, 
where even a product as good as SpamAssassin can be next to useless 
because the vast majority of legitimate business-related e-mail 
received bears many of the same characteristics as spam!

The whole purpose of the Habeas SWE(tm) is to provide an enforceable 
guarantee of non-spaminess, like a BBB or Good Housekeeping seal of 
approval which allows legitimate mail which may appear spam-like to 
pass through filtering systems which would otherwise block them.

If you encounter one shady business with a forged BBB certificate on 
the wall, does that mean you'll never trust the BBB again?

Nels Lindquist <*>
---- 
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.  And inside
of a dog, it's too dark to read.
- Groucho Marx



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