Brook Humphrey wrote:
> On Tuesday 25 November 2003 05:18 am, Frederick M Avolio wrote:
> > Yesterday I again tried to install 2.60 on RedHat Linux 7.3.
> *This* is your problem                                   ^^^^^^

How so?  (My emphasis added)

I have a number of RedHat 7.3 servers which have been installed and
running for over a year now.  Aside from the fact that RedHat is
dropping official support for it at the end of December (and therefore
security updates), it's perfectly usable and in fact does NOT have many
of the problems associated with newer RHL releases.  I build my own RPMs
for a few pieces of software which either had no RPMs I could find, or
those third-party RPMs didn't install (ie, a PLD RPM doesn't generally
install cleanly on RHL).

I don't know about you, but I can't afford to take servers down for
several days to upgrade to the "latest and 'greatest'" RHL release every
four months and untangle the resulting configuration mess- there *are*
major differences and many things were changed in such a way as to make
upgrades painful.

I'm slowly rolling systems over to Debian for several reasons:

-> the "stable" release has a very long release cycle;  I can be certain
that the packages in it will remain there barring significant security
holes for several *years* at least.  Relatedly, RedHat is dropping all
support for RH7.3 as of the end of December, and I really don't want to
run Fedora as it's likely to break occasionally.
-> apt provides a very nice tool for installing software quickly and
(relatively) painlessly

> You will find shortly unless you
> really know what you are doing and how to run a box that you wind more
> and more things not working.

In the extreme case yes;  although it's more a case of "the provided
tools are out of date but work just fine thank you very much" (somewhat
like the current Debian stable release).  In which case you backport the
two or three packages that have features/enhancements/updates that you
need/want, and continue on without having to *really* break things by
rebuilding your servers every four to six months.

> On a side note and I dont know this for sure but even if you do know
> what you are doing and you decide to update the box by compileing or
> makeing your own rpm's you will voind your customer service contranct
> anyway since it is not a stock install.

I think the OP is much like myself;  a small sysadmin working with the
free-release versions of RHL.  In which case there *is* no support
contract.

> I think you will find shortly
> more and more companies dropng redhat alltogether. DO you winder why
> hte last version they support is an old verison like that? (Refering
> to big companies here Dell, etc.)

Because it's been around for a while and has been proven to be decently
stable as a production server platform maybe?

-kgd
-- 
<erno> hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to
ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my
apartment it is.


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