> -----Original Message-----
> From: Theo Van Dinter
> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 7:06 PM

> Well, it depends what you mean by "paying customer" ...

Meaning someone who purchases Enterprise products.  There are a lot of RH
installations in the world.  I can certainly understand that development and
updates for the non-RHEL products are a sieve financially.  I just think it
is irresponsible to just drop security and product updates without a planned
phase-out.  Just dropping all support at the end of April, which I have not
seen a notice on, is not a good decision.  They started the game of free
distros.  If they can not politely bow out with such a huge install base, I
would seriously consider ever purchasing RHEL. 

> They're still going to do (only going to do actually) 
> Enterprise RedHat Linux.  Support, updates, etc.  So if 
> you're paying for RHEL, no problem there.  If you've 
> purchased a box RH9 or something, or an entitlement for RHN 
> for non-EL, that's another issue.

Well then, they are not really ending support.  They are ending *free*
support.  This at least makes more sense.  However, I still think a better
and published phase-out is appropriate.


> At work I have 9 AS, 2 ES, and 5 non-EL boxes.  I've been 
> told in no uncertain terms by the regional sales rep that 
> updates, at least, for non-EL versions will stop around April 
> of next year.  I would imagine that means that support for 
> those versions will stop too.

With the exception you mentioned above, I assume.


> I'm not sure what we're going to do with the non-EL boxes.  I 
> think we'll probably end up switching the non-essential boxes 
> to Fedora, and the rest to ES or WS, depending on how 
> "server" class they are.  <sigh>

I, as well as others here too, have the same dilema.  To the point of the
original post though, the non-RHN/EL RPM update cessation will not eliminate
RPMs or the independent releases of RPMs.  I find more pertinent RPMs via
rpmseek.com than at RH.  And even though I am a bit negative about RH's
decision-making concerning product discontinuation, I am not too concerned
about the product discontinuation itself.  It will just be a bit harder to
maintain.  The life of the installed OS can continue until Fedora is at a
stable point.  I would think that if RH engineers continue to work Fedora,
it will at least have the flavor of the current non-EL distros and maybe
gradually drift in a different direction.

> It does make sense I guess though, the non-EL side of things 
> is very likely not making RH much (if any) money.  So they 
> can offload that to "the community", and focus on the EL side 
> of things.

Agreed.  This is one point that I think will be benificial.  I was
considering Gentoo but I think they are a bit bleeding-edge sometimes and
are not quite ready for servers.


--Larry



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