But if the original message is in attachment, spam status in headers, and
content analysis in message body text, does sa-learn to handle it correctly?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Burger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Harri Pesonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Dan Wing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Theo Van Dinter"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Dean Gallea" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
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Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Re: [Spamassassin-saproxy] Outlook Add-In for
SpamAssassin is here


> What's to get?  If you use the two options I gave you, the report will be
> in the headers, and won't affect your ability to properly report the spam.
>
> Try it and see.
>
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, Harri Pesonen wrote:
>
> > I still don't get it. The report is not in attachment, the original
message
> > is. The report is in message body.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Mike Burger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Harri Pesonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: "Dan Wing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Theo Van Dinter"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Dean Gallea" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 12:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Re: [Spamassassin-saproxy] Outlook Add-In for
> > SpamAssassin is here
> >
> >
> > > If you edit your /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf and insert the
following
> > > lines:
> > >
> > > report_safe 0
> > > use_terse_report 0
> > >
> > > You'll find that the report is put into the message headers, instead
of as
> > > a MIME attachment.
> > >
> > > On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, Harri Pesonen wrote:
> > >
> > > > Are you saying, that if SA inserts the original e-mail as an
attachment,
> > > > then it is OK to feed this message to sa-learn, even if it has a new
> > body
> > > > text:
> > > >
> > > > "This mail is probably spam.  The original message has been attached
> > > > along with this report, so you can recognize or block similar
unwanted
> > > > mail in future.  See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details.
> > > >
> > > > Content preview:  Loading image ... URI:http://www32.com/gh/
> > > > URI:http://www32.com/gh/ghad.jpg URI:http://www32.com/gh/rm.htm
> > > > URI:http://www32.com/gh/rm.gif [...]
> > > >
> > > > Content analysis details:   (19.70 points, 5 required)
> > > > X_MSMAIL_PRIORITY_HIGH (0.0 points)  Sent with 'X-Msmail-Priority'
set
> > to
> > > > high
> > > > X_PRIORITY_HIGH    (1.9 points)  Sent with 'X-Priority' set to high
> > > > FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS  (0.6 points)  From: ends in numbers
> > > > MSGID_OE_SPAM_4ZERO (4.3 points)  Message-Id generated by spam tool
> > > > (4-zeroes variant)
> > > > INVALID_DATE       (0.6 points)  Invalid Date: header (not RFC 2822)
> > > > MSGID_SPAMSIGN_ZEROES (4.3 points)  Message-Id generated by spam
tool
> > > > (zeroes variant)
> > > > HTML_80_90         (0.5 points)  BODY: Message is 80% to 90% HTML
> > > > BAYES_60           (1.1 points)  BODY: Bayesian classifier says spam
> > > > probability is 60 to 70%
> > > >                    [score: 0.6024]
> > > > HTML_MESSAGE       (0.0 points)  BODY: HTML included in message
> > > > HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_02 (1.4 points)  BODY: HTML has images with 0-200
bytes
> > of
> > > > words
> > > > MSGID_OUTLOOK_TIME (4.4 points)  Message-Id is fake (in Outlook
Express
> > > > format)
> > > > DATE_IN_PAST_06_12 (0.1 points)  Date: is 6 to 12 hours before
Received:
> > > > date
> > > > MIME_HTML_ONLY     (0.1 points)  Message only has text/html MIME
parts
> > > > PRIORITY_NO_NAME   (0.4 points)  Message has priority setting, but
no
> > > > X-Mailer
> > > >
> > > > The original message did not contain plain text, and may be unsafe
to
> > > > open with some email clients; in particular, it may contain a virus,
> > > > or confirm that your address can receive spam.  If you wish to view
> > > > it, it may be safer to save it to a file and open it with an
editor."
> > > >
> > > > I want to be 100% sure about this! :-)
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "Dan Wing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "Theo Van Dinter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Cc: "Harri Pesonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Dean Gallea"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 10:32 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Re: [Spamassassin-saproxy] Outlook Add-In for
> > > > SpamAssassin is here
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 9 Aug 2003, Theo Van Dinter wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The bayes system won't learn already learned messages (as per
the
> > > > > > Message-ID header).  That's that whole bayes_seen db.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There was a bug where messages w/out the Message-ID header could
be
> > > > > > learned/forgotten multiple times.  That's fixed in 2.60.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > sa-learn looks for the X-Spam-Status header, and if it exists,
it'll
> > > > > > remove the markup from the message, so report_safe mails are
fine.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ah.  I had thought it didn't work based on some testing I did, but
> > > > > obviously my testing was flawed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > -d
> >
>
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