On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Dallas Engelken wrote:

> There can never be justification for blocking the entire netblock that
> is that large.

There's frequently not justification for blocking any other netblock,
either.  You have to choose which blacklists have sane administrators,
and hope that others are intelligent enough to do the same.

Blacklisting isn't, and never has been, a good solution to spamming.  
It's sort of an OK approach to problems like open relays that allow
innocent third parties to become spam hosts, but not for stopping spammers
directly.  Yes, it gets some ISPs to boot spammers off their netblocks.  
Guess what?  Those spammers just go elsewhere and start again.

When we first signed up with our current ISP, the NOC director told us
stories about people who lied about what their business was, moved in
thousands of dollars worth of hardware and used it to send spam, then
simply abandoned it when the ISP shut down their net access because of
blacklisting.  By the time those IPs got blacklisted, they'd already set
up at another ISP halfway across the country; their stream of spam wasn't
even slowed.

Ironically, only the really obnoxious large-scale spammers -- the ones the
blacklisters would most like to shut down -- are able to afford this kind
of hit-and-run tactic.  What do they care if the ISP has a "zero-
tolerance" spam policy?  They're planning to default on their contract
anyway.  Meanwhile, businesses who are trying to do the right thing by
having a stable net presence are excessively penalized.

(I'm a bit sensitive about this right now as I just discovered that the
entire block of IPs that my new DSL provider uses, are in the DUL.  And
there is no other DSL provider in this area, the last alternative is in
bankruptcy as of a few weeks ago.)



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