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Re: CS>Re: $$$ perpectives
From: Robert Berger
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 12:04:37

Hi Robert,

Please do not think I am trying to attack you. It is my nature to 
question and look for explanations why things work they way they do. This 
has resulted in 6 US patents that have helped the industry I work in a 
great deal. You can see a list of the patents at

  http://www3.sympatico.ca/add.automation/patents.htm

The other thing is I suffer terrible headaches from mold sensitivity. 
Some have remarked that it makes me sound arrogant - that is not my 
intention. It is only a reflection of the excruciating pain I suffer 
constantly. The only thing that seems to reduce the pain is to try to 
help others. 

Please forgive me if my wording is not as smooth as I would like, or I 
am unable to adequate consideration to everyones feelings. I will fix it. 
Somehow, I will figure out how to eliminate the effects of mold in my 
body. But I don't know how...

In the meantime, I am very interested to figure out why these methods 
give such different results. In principle, they should agree within 
experimental error.

> Mike,

  > I have  cross  checked  my spect and  procedures  with  four other
  > people and the results are accurate. I have used 16 boxes  of Hach
  > chemicals with 50 tests per box, that makes over 800 tests  !!!! I
  > can look  at  the  color   of   the   test  sample  and  guess the
  > concentration to within +/- 3 ppm. Every test has a blank prepared
  > from the sample taken from the is to be measured.

It's not my calculation. It's Bob Lee's, and it places an upper bound on 
the concentration of silver ions in solution. It is a good sanity check 
on other methods of measuring the concentration. Meaurements that 
indicate a higher concentration must be in error.

Trem indicated the method compares favorably with his measurements:

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Re: CS>basic electrochemistry theory computes maximum ppm.
From: Trem Williams
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 10:09:31

Bill and for those who are interested,

It's interesting that your calculations bear out our results
fairly closely.
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It's good to confirm your results with others, but if they are using the 
same method, they may have similar unknown problems. This has been known 
to happen.

You need to check the results using a completely different technology. 
How do the readings compare with the Hanna PWT? And how do you calibrate 
the Hanna? All these methods are a good cross-check, and should agree 
with each other.

The salt test never goes out of calibration. One silver ion mates with 
one chlorine ion to make one atom of silver chloride. The reflection and 
transmission characteristics of water change according to the 
concentration.

This might be a good cross-check on the Hanna PWT and other methods of 
measuring ion concentration.

It's worth considering.

Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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