On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Tim Cook wrote:
> Not to mention you've then got full-time staff on-hand to constantly be
>replacing
> parts.
Maybe I don't understand something, but we also had on-hand full-time
staff to constantly replacing Dell's parts..., so what's the problem?
Dell or HP or
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 9:27 PM, BM wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Edward Ned Harvey
> wrote:
> > I'll second that. And I think this is how you can tell the difference:
> > With supermicro, do you have a single support number to call and a 4hour
> > onsite service response time?
>
>
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
>> latest (just a week ago): Apple Support reported me that their
>> engineers in US has no green idea why Darwin kernel panics on their
>
> Stop it... You did *not* just use "apple" and "support" in the same
> sentence, did you?? ;-) Y
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
> That said, as you appear to be so firmly convinced that there is no
> possible positive way forward for ZFS or Solaris, I recommend you go
> elsewhere instead of apparently wasting your time here.
Thanks a lot for recommendation, but I th
> From: BM [mailto:bogdan.maryn...@gmail.com]
>
> latest (just a week ago): Apple Support reported me that their
> engineers in US has no green idea why Darwin kernel panics on their
Stop it... You did *not* just use "apple" and "support" in the same sentence,
did you?? ;-) You almost made me
On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 11:48 +0900, BM wrote:
>
> But hey, why to fork ZFS and mess with a stale Solaris code, if the
> entire future of Solaris is a closed proprietary payware anyway? And
> opposite to ZFS, we have totally free BTRFS that has been moved to the
> kernel.org and is *free* and is fo
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
> The *code* is probably not going away (even updates to the kernel).
> Even if the community dies, is killed, or commits OGB induced suicide.
1. You used correct word: "probably".
2. No community = stale outdated code.
> There is another
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Edward Ned Harvey
wrote:
> I'll second that. And I think this is how you can tell the difference:
> With supermicro, do you have a single support number to call and a 4hour
> onsite service response time?
Yes.
BTW, just for the record, people potentially have a
On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 13:59 -0700, Paul B. Henson wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:
>
> > Once the code is in the open, it'll remain there. To quote Cory Doctorow
> > on this, it's easy release the source of a project, it's like adding ink
> > to your swimming pool, but it'
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Paul B. Henson wrote:
> ZFS is great. It's pretty much the only reason we're running Solaris.
Well, if this is the the only reason, then run FreeBSD instead. I run
Solaris because of the kernel architecture and other things that Linux
or any BSD simply can not do.
Cindy Swearingen wrote:
Hi Daniel,
No conversion from a mirrored to RAIDZ configuration is available yet.
Well... you can do it, but it's a bit byzantine, and leaves you without
redundancy during the migration.
1) Add your new disks
2) Create a sparse file at least as large as your smallest
Hello,
How would I go about finding out which zone owns a particular dataset from a
script running in the global zone?
We have some ZFS datasets that can "float" between zones on different servers
in order to provide a manual application failover mechanism. I've got scripts
that gather disk u
Thanks for all of the help.
I now have the Asus U3S6 installed. There are two SATA ports on the board, and
I've plugged one into the CD-ROM drive, and the other for my SSD being used as
an L2ARC. Upon booting the machine, I get the message:
Marvell 88SE91xx Adapter, BIOS version 0.0.1012
It th
Perfect.
Thank you you've been a great help,
I have lots to think about (and test) now!
Thanks again, nice to know this list is so responsive!
- Daniel
On 14 Jul 2010, at 23:34, Cindy Swearingen wrote:
Yes, if you created snapshots of your file systems and stored them
remotely, you could re
Yes, if you created snapshots of your file systems and stored them
remotely, you could receive them into the new pool.
I recommend that you test this process a few times before attempting
the transition.
Thanks,
Cindy
On 07/14/10 16:21, Daniel Taylor wrote:
Sorry I think I used the wrong terms
Sorry I think I used the wrong terms there, still learning, I think
what I meant was send/receive rather than import/export.
Would it be possible to use "zfs send" to backup the data somewhere
(I'll work that bit out later), then "receive" it into the new pool?
And if I did that would I kee
You can't transition a mirrored pool to a RAIDZ pool with an
pool export/import. If you find any info that says you can,
please send a pointer.
You would need to do these important middle steps:
If you transition from a mirrored configuration to a RAIDZ
configuration, you would need to backup th
Cindy,
Hmm, I've using RAIDZ-2 on a nexentastor elsewhere (although that has
15 disks) and having looked quite a bit I agree that mirroring is very
flexible in comparison.
I'll have to think about it and see if I can afford to lose the 2TB's.
The other solution I can think off is to export
On Jul 14, 2010, at 05:15, Ian Collins wrote:
Use a version control tool like hg or svn!
Or Unison:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unison_(file_synchronizer)
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On Wed, July 14, 2010 14:58, Daniel Taylor wrote:
> I'm about the build a opensolaris NAS system, currently we have two drives
> and are planning on adding two more at a later date (2TB enterprise level
> HDD are a bit expensive!).
Do you really need them? Now? Maybe 1TB drives are good now, a
Thank you all for the information! I do appreciate it!
-Beau
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Hi Beau,
The naming breaks down like this:
c=controller
t=target
d=disk
Some controllers use a target to provide a unique address for each disk.
Others do not use a target and those disks would be named like c8d0 or
c8d1.
The graphic in Figure 5-1 here is slightly askew but describes Solaris
d
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 03:07:59PM -0600, Beau J. Bechdol wrote:
> So not sue if this is the correct list to email to or not. I am curious to
> know on my machine I have two hard drive (c8t0d0 and c8t1d0). Can some one
> explain to me what this exactly means? What does "c8" "t0" and "d0" actually
>
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Beau J. Bechdol wrote:
> So not sue if this is the correct list to email to or not. I am curious to
> know on my machine I have two hard drive (c8t0d0 and c8t1d0). Can some one
> explain to me what this exactly means? What does "c8" "t0" and "d0" actually
> mean.
Beau,
Not the right list but C=controller, T=target (SCSI), D= disk number (or
LUN), S=slice number.
Google in "solaris disk names" yielded lots of good results like:
http://initialprogramload.blogspot.com/2008/07/how-solaris-disk-device-names-work.html
..Remco
On 7/14/10 11:07 PM, Beau J.
So not sue if this is the correct list to email to or not. I am curious to
know on my machine I have two hard drive (c8t0d0 and c8t1d0). Can some one
explain to me what this exactly means? What does "c8" "t0" and "d0" actually
mean. I might have to go back to solaris 101 to understand what this all
Yes, that is true. If you have 4 2 TB drives, you would only get 4 TBs
of usable disk space in a mirrored config.
The problem I see with your potential RAIDZ config, if I understand
it correctly, is that you can't add more disks to an existing RAIDZ
config. You would need to create a 3 disk RAID
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:
> Once the code is in the open, it'll remain there. To quote Cory Doctorow
> on this, it's easy release the source of a project, it's like adding ink
> to your swimming pool, but it's a little harder to remove the ink from
> the pool...
Woo-hoo, th
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010, Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
> It is true there's no new build published in the last 3 months. But you
> can't use that to assume they're killing the community.
Hmm, the community seems to think they're killing the community:
http://developers.slashdot.org/story/10/07/
Hi Daniel,
No conversion from a mirrored to RAIDZ configuration is available yet.
Mirrored pools are more flexible and generally provide good performance.
You can easily create a mirrored pool of two disks and then add two
more disks later. You can also replace each disk with larger disks
if ne
On 7/14/10 Jul 14, 2:58 PM, "Daniel Taylor" wrote:
> I was thinking of mirroring the drives and then converting to raidz some how?
Not possible. You can start with a mirror and then add another mirror; the
filesystem will spread data across both drives in a way analogous* to RAID
10.
*You can't
Hello,
I'm about the build a opensolaris NAS system, currently we have two drives and
are planning on adding two more at a later date (2TB enterprise level HDD are a
bit expensive!).
Whats the best configuration for setting up these drives bearing in mind I want
to expand in the future?
I was
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Edward Ned Harvey
wrote:
>> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
>> boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Edward Ned Harvey
>>
>> When you pay for the higher prices for OEM hardware, you're paying for
>> the
>> knowledge of parts availabi
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010, Peter Taps wrote:
Any business that is dependent on zfs must plan for two things as a contingency:
1. Look for an alternative for zfs
2. Look for an alternative for OpenSolaris
The existing OpenSolaris and zfs code bases are quite viable products
today. If Oracle falter
- Original Message -
> > From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
> > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Peter Taps
> >
> > Is it possible to set zfs for bi-directional synchronization of data
> > across two locations? I am thinking this is almost impossible.
> > Co
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
> boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Edward Ned Harvey
>
> When you pay for the higher prices for OEM hardware, you're paying for
> the
> knowledge of parts availability and compatibility. And a single point
> vendor who supports
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
> boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Erik Trimble
>
> Not to beat a dead horse here, but that's an Apples-to-Oranges
> comparison (it's raining idioms!). You can't compare an OEM server
> (Dell, Sun, whatever) to a custom-built b
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
> boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Peter Taps
>
> Is it possible to set zfs for bi-directional synchronization of data
> across two locations? I am thinking this is almost impossible. Consider
You are probably looking for lustr
What does 'zpool import -d /dev' show?
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010, Tim Castle wrote:
My raidz1 (ZFSv6) had a power failure, and a disk failure. Now:
j...@opensolaris:~# zpool import
pool: files
id: 3459234681059189202
state: UNAVAIL
status: One or mor
My raidz1 (ZFSv6) had a power failure, and a disk failure. Now:
j...@opensolaris:~# zpool import
pool: files
id: 3459234681059189202
state: UNAVAIL
status: One or more devices contains corrupted data.
action: The pool cannot be imported due to da
- Original Message -
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 07:18:59AM -0700, Erik Trimble wrote:
>
> > Not to beat a dead horse here, but that's an Apples-to-Oranges
>
> No, no, 'e's uh,...he's resting.
>
> > comparison (it's raining idioms!). You can't compare an OEM server
> > (Dell, Sun, whatever
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:27 PM, Erik Trimble wrote:
> But you're not doing an equal comparison.
Thanks for the enlightening. I am also working in a datacenter, like
you do, so I am also perfectly aware about hardware just like you are
— that's for the record. I've picked up hardware and it supp
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 07:18:59AM -0700, Erik Trimble wrote:
> Not to beat a dead horse here, but that's an Apples-to-Oranges
No, no, 'e's uh,...he's resting.
> comparison (it's raining idioms!). You can't compare an OEM server
> (Dell, Sun, whatever) to a custom-built box from a parts assemb
Erik Trimble wrote:
> OEM equipment has a whole bunch of different features that you can't
> get via a build-it-yourself rig like Supermicro (even if you are having a
> whitebox vendor assemble the Supermicro and not do it yourself). Not
> just Sun equipment, but all OEM equipment is in a totall
On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 21:43 +0900, BM wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> >> Not in my neck of the woods, Sun have always been most competitive.
> >
> > You find Sun to be a better deal than Supermicro? Especially,
> > when you're sticking a very large number of disks in
On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 11:42 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 04:28:44PM +1200, Ian Collins wrote:
>
> > >If you're new to solaris etc, I might not recommend the Dell because
> > >installation isn't straightforward. Hardware support exists, but it's less
> > >"enterprise" than w
- Original Message -
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> >> Not in my neck of the woods, Sun have always been most competitive.
> >
> > You find Sun to be a better deal than Supermicro? Especially,
> > when you're sticking a very large number of disks into it, and
> > c
Dave Pooser wrote:
> I'm looking at a new web server for the company, and am considering
> Solaris specifically because of ZFS. (Oracle's lousy sales model--
> specifically
> the unwillingness to give a price for a Solaris support contract without my
> having to send multiple emails to multiple a
> I wish I am wrong, but looks to me pretty much game over, folks:
> Oracle appeared to be complete idiots towards the community. Same
> probably will happen to Java.
Once the code is in the open, it'll remain there. To quote Cory Doctorow on
this, it's easy release the source of a project, it's
- Original Message -
> On 7/12/10 Jul 12, 10:49 AM, "Linder, Doug"
>
> wrote:
>
> > Out of sheer curiosity - and I'm not disagreeing with you, just
> > wondering -
> > how does ZFS make money for Oracle when they don't charge for it? Do
> > you
> > think it's such an important feature tha
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>> Not in my neck of the woods, Sun have always been most competitive.
>
> You find Sun to be a better deal than Supermicro? Especially,
> when you're sticking a very large number of disks into it, and
> can't source the diskless caddies elsewher
Among all my snapshots, I'm interested about space consumption of some
of them. Is it possible to calculate how much space would be freed if
I destroy only some of all snapshots?
zfs list -t snapshot
that'll show you their sizes as well as other details
Vennlige hilsener / Best regards
roy
- Original Message -
> Hello
>
> Among all my snapshots, I'm interested about space consumption of some
> of them. Is it possible to calculate how much space would be freed if
> I destroy only some of all snapshots?
zfs list -t snapshot
that'll show you their sizes as well as other detai
Hello
Among all my snapshots, I'm interested about space consumption of some
of them. Is it possible to calculate how much space would be freed if
I destroy only some of all snapshots?
Henrik Heino
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hello all,
i guess i hit the bug:
http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=7491
on my system:
# zfs list rpool/zones/catalogue3
NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT
rpool/zones/catalogue3 10.1G 7.17G70K /zones/catalogue3
# zfs destroy rpool/zones/catalogue3
cannot
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 04:28:44PM +1200, Ian Collins wrote:
> >If you're new to solaris etc, I might not recommend the Dell because
> >installation isn't straightforward. Hardware support exists, but it's less
> >"enterprise" than what you might expect. The sun hardware is the
> >recommended wa
On 07/14/10 07:10 PM, Peter Taps wrote:
Folks,
This is probably a very naive question.
Is it possible to set zfs for bi-directional synchronization of data across two
locations? I am thinking this is almost impossible. Consider two files A and B
at two different sites. There are three possibl
On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 01:06 -0700, Peter Taps wrote:
> > Btw, if you want a commercially supported and maintained product, have
> > you looked at NexentaStor? Regardless of what happens with OpenSolaris,
> > we aren't going anywhere. (Full disclosure: I'm a Nexenta Systems
> > employee. :-)
> >
>
> Btw, if you want a commercially supported and maintained product, have
> you looked at NexentaStor? Regardless of what happens with OpenSolaris,
> we aren't going anywhere. (Full disclosure: I'm a Nexenta Systems
> employee. :-)
>
> -- Garrett
Hi Garrett,
I would like to know why you think Nex
Folks,
I now know that ZFS is capable of preserving AD account sids. I have verified
the scenario with CIFS integration.
I am now wondering if it is possible to achieve a similar AD integration over
WebDAV. Is it possible to retain security permissions on files and folders over
WebDAV?
Thank
Folks,
This is probably a very naive question.
Is it possible to set zfs for bi-directional synchronization of data across two
locations? I am thinking this is almost impossible. Consider two files A and B
at two different sites. There are three possible cases that require
synchronization:
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