RE: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-10-06 Thread Rasmus Haslund
>From: Ned Slider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >The easy solution for you is to whitelist any such domains that you absolutely don't want blocked at the smtp level. Well Ned, the thing is our company is located in 12 different countries and dealing with an endless amount of domains situated all ov

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-10-06 Thread mouss
Rasmus Haslund a écrit : We do business all over the world and I see a lot of fp's on Zen. >>> in which sublist? xbl, sbl or pbl? and when you say "a lot", how >>> > many? > >>> can you show an example of an IP that you consider as an FP? >>> > > >> I am int

RE: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-10-06 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Mon, October 6, 2008 16:26, Rasmus Haslund wrote: > Another fresh example from today is 193.173.161.178 from XBL inherited > from CBL. please contact postmaster at that ip, maybe thay are intrested to know there problem users give them ? :-) > From what I can see something on the IP is suppo

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-10-06 Thread Ned Slider
Rasmus Haslund wrote: We do business all over the world and I see a lot of fp's on Zen. in which sublist? xbl, sbl or pbl? and when you say "a lot", how many? can you show an example of an IP that you consider as an FP? I am interested in to, since I had uses and then and never gotten FP

RE: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-10-06 Thread Rasmus Haslund
>> >We do business all over the world and I see a lot of fp's on Zen. >> >> in which sublist? xbl, sbl or pbl? and when you say "a lot", how many? >> can you show an example of an IP that you consider as an FP? >I am interested in to, since I had uses and then and never gotten FPs >Greetings

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-10-06 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-09-25 09:43:06, schrieb mouss: > >We do business all over the world and I see a lot of fp's on Zen. > > in which sublist? xbl, sbl or pbl? and when you say "a lot", how many? > can you show an example of an IP that you consider as an FP? I am interested in to, since I had uses and then

RE: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-10-01 Thread Rasmus Haslund
>> For us, the only FP we have seen are some servers in Argentina, Brazil >> and 2 legit fish newsletters from Russia. >> Otherwise it is looking very good here. >maybe if you received more mail from argentina, brazil or russia, you'd see more FPs. The problem is, while spam >spews everywhere, so

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-10-01 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 30.09.08 15:12, Rasmus Haslund wrote: > > I'd like answers to many of the same questions, although I've > > already implemented the list. So far, I've only had one > > complaint though it wasn't much of a false positive. I'd > > started receiving junk from a legitimate server that normally

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-30 Thread mouss
Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2008-09-22 11:36:39, schrieb Joseph Brennan: Ralf Hildebrandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My top rejections for today are: x28 smtp-out.orange.net[193.252.22.118]: Orange is a major ISP. Their mail-sending hosts are in 193.252.22 and 80.12.242. Mail from Ora

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-30 Thread Kelson
Rasmus Haslund wrote: For us, the only FP we have seen are some servers in Argentina, Brazil and 2 legit fish newsletters from Russia. Otherwise it is looking very good here. We've been testing it using SpamAssassin with the lastexternal option, and while it catches a whole lot of obvious junk

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-30 Thread Justin Mason
Michelle Konzack writes: > Am 2008-09-22 11:36:39, schrieb Joseph Brennan: > > Ralf Hildebrandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > My top rejections for today are: > > > > x28 smtp-out.orange.net[193.252.22.118]: > > > > > > > > Orange is a major ISP. Their mail-sending hosts are in 193.

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-30 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-09-22 11:36:39, schrieb Joseph Brennan: > > Ralf Hildebrandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My top rejections for today are: > > > x28 smtp-out.orange.net[193.252.22.118]: > > > > Orange is a major ISP. Their mail-sending hosts are in 193.252.22 and > 80.12.242. Mail from Orang

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-30 Thread Justin Mason
Jason Bertoch writes: > > -Original Message- > > From: Michael Hutchinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 5:53 PM > > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > > Subject: RE: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

RE: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-30 Thread Rasmus Haslund
> -Original Message- > From: Jason Bertoch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 30. september 2008 15:01 > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: RE: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation > Block List > I'd like answers to many of the sam

RE: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-30 Thread Jason Bertoch
> -Original Message- > From: Michael Hutchinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 5:53 PM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: RE: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List > > For instance, how do Barracuda gene

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-30 Thread Justin Mason
Michael Hutchinson writes: > Hello All, > > There were so many messages regarding this new Block List, I have to > admit I have not read them all. I get the general idea that this new > Barracuda Reputation Block List isn't all that hot. You should read them all, then ;) --j.

RE: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-29 Thread Michael Hutchinson
Hello All, There were so many messages regarding this new Block List, I have to admit I have not read them all. I get the general idea that this new Barracuda Reputation Block List isn't all that hot. For instance, how do Barracuda generate their Block List? I don't think this has been answered

BRBL hirate and accuracy [Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List]

2008-09-29 Thread Vidar Tyldum Hansen
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 11:51:37PM -0700, Jeff Chan wrote: > [Pardon the spam; thought this new blacklist might be worth at > least trying.] > > Apparently Barracuda will be publishing a free-to-use sender > blacklist called BRBL: > > http://www.barracudacentral.org/rbl In case someone shares

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-25 Thread mouss
Rasmus Haslund wrote: anyway, - zen is widely used. so even if it has an FP, the originator will have problems sending to >a lot of places, and has enough incentives to get delisted. In other words, the FPs caused by zen are "passed to the originator" and are no more "our FPs"! (I hope you see w

RE: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-24 Thread Rasmus Haslund
>anyway, >- zen is widely used. so even if it has an FP, the originator will have problems sending to >a lot of places, and has enough incentives to get delisted. In other words, the FPs caused by zen are "passed to the originator" and are no more "our FPs"! (I hope you see what I mean). > - we do

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-24 Thread mouss
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was actually hoping to use it like I use zen.spamhaus.org and dul.sorbs.net and just reject emails listed on those. It is very rare that I get a false positive from either, but their efficacy isn't what it used to be, e

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-24 Thread up
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was actually hoping to use it like I use zen.spamhaus.org and dul.sorbs.net and just reject emails listed on those. It is very rare that I get a false positive from either, but their efficacy isn't what it used to be, either. So, I just configur

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-24 Thread Aaron Wolfe
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:41 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 23 Sep 2008, McDonald, Dan wrote: > >> On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 17:21 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> Getting back to the subject...can anyone enlighten us to the efficacy of >>> this DNSBL? For example, how does it compar

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-24 Thread up
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008, McDonald, Dan wrote: On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 17:21 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Getting back to the subject...can anyone enlighten us to the efficacy of this DNSBL? For example, how does it compare to zen.spamhaus.org, It hits significantly more spam than zen.spamhaus.o

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-24 Thread Dave Koontz
Just an update. I contacted Barracuda and they have resolved their rDNS issue. They also provided a link so that those that did not receive their original confirmation emails can have it resent. Original Message Subject: RE: BarracudaCentral Contact Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:13:

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-24 Thread Dave Koontz
Joseph Brennan wrote ... (9/23/2008 2:37 PM): > No, they don't, really. They 'may' do that (see below). Try it. > > Effective immediately: AOL > 220- may no longer accept connections from IP addresses which > 220 have no reverse-DNS (PTR record) assigned. According to AOL's Poli

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-24 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 9/23/2008 5:25 PM, Rob McEwen wrote: Yet Another Ninja wrote: FIW: 12 hr stats / tiny traffic trap box - no ham I use a couple of DNSWLs to reject traffic from potential hammy IPs RANKRULE NAME COUNT %OFMAIL %OFSPAM %OFHAM 1RCVD_BARRACUDA 19721 83.30

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-24 Thread Jeremy
"RobertH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] \ It hits significantly more spam than zen.spamhaus.org On my primary mx, today I had 94 mails that hit a zen list but not brbl, 591 that hit a zen list and brbl, and 8042 that hit brbl but not zen. I am checking -lastexter

RE: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread RobertH
\ > It hits significantly more spam than zen.spamhaus.org > > On my primary mx, today I had 94 mails that hit a zen list but not brbl, > 591 that hit a zen list and brbl, and 8042 that hit brbl but not zen. > > I am checking -lastexternal addresses only. > > Looking through the 2400 or so domain

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Tue, September 23, 2008 09:00, ram wrote: > On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 10:58 -0500, Matt wrote: >> Everyone should block/defer ALL email with no reverse DNS. Then maybe >> those email admins would get a clue. > We tried, But when the client yells "I am losing my mails", you got to > change your rul

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 17:21 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Getting back to the subject...can anyone enlighten us to the efficacy of > this DNSBL? For example, how does it compare to zen.spamhaus.org, It hits significantly more spam than zen.spamhaus.org On my primary mx, today I had 94 mails

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread Kris Deugau
SM wrote: At 11:24 23-09-2008, Kris Deugau wrote: I can't think of ANY reasons (beyond sysadmin and/or ISP incompentence) that a public IP originating legitimate SMTP traffic should not have a reverse DNS entry. (Never mind a properly-formed one, a whole other argument on its own.) There wa

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread up
Getting back to the subject...can anyone enlighten us to the efficacy of this DNSBL? For example, how does it compare to zen.spamhaus.org, varius DUL type lists, etc. I would love to reject more before SA gets involved. James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread mouss
Jason Bertoch wrote: -Original Message- From: Kris Deugau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:27 PM To: users Subject: Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List IMO there's little excuse not to have *some* kind of rDNS on every sing

RE: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread Jason Bertoch
> -Original Message- > From: Kris Deugau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:27 PM > To: users > Subject: Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List > > IMO there's little excuse not to have *some* kind of rDNS on &

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread mouss
Jesse Stroik wrote: Bowie, What does having the mail gateway on an internal network have to do with anything? If it is going to send mail to the Internet, then it must have a public IP address in order to do so. This address may be local to the machine or it may be translated by a router or

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread mouss
Jesse Stroik wrote: Kris Deugau wrote: Jesse Stroik wrote: There are plenty of places still using mail gateways where the mail server used for sending is still on an internal network, for a variety of legitimate reasons, and those mail servers may resolve to a private address. If you discard

RE: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread Bowie Bailey
Jesse Stroik wrote: > Bowie, > > > > What does having the mail gateway on an internal network have to do > > with anything? If it is going to send mail to the Internet, then > > it must have a public IP address in order to do so. This address > > may be local to the machine or it may be transla

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread Dave Pooser
> The originating mail server could have a private address of, for > example, 172.17.1.60, for exmaple. It could then send that message > through another SMTP server that trusts the internal server. And now > you've got 172.17.1.60 in your headers as the originating server and > that doesn't (and

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread Kris Deugau
Jesse Stroik wrote: In my experience, I've come across exchange servers in private networks behind mail gateways that were the originating server. In this case, whether or not you and I think it is a poor configuration, it is a legitimate SMTP configuration via the RFC and it will have no rev

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread Karl Pearson
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008, Joseph Brennan wrote: Everyone should block/defer ALL email with no reverse DNS. Then maybe those email admins would get a clue. AOL.com does just that. No, they don't, really. They 'may' do that (see below). Try it. Effective immediately: AOL 220- may

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread Jesse Stroik
Bowie, What does having the mail gateway on an internal network have to do with anything? If it is going to send mail to the Internet, then it must have a public IP address in order to do so. This address may be local to the machine or it may be translated by a router or firewall, but either

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread Jesse Stroik
Kris Deugau wrote: Jesse Stroik wrote: There are plenty of places still using mail gateways where the mail server used for sending is still on an internal network, for a variety of legitimate reasons, and those mail servers may resolve to a private address. If you discard all mail with no app

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread SM
At 11:24 23-09-2008, Kris Deugau wrote: I can't think of ANY reasons (beyond sysadmin and/or ISP incompentence) that a public IP originating legitimate SMTP traffic should not have a reverse DNS entry. (Never mind a properly-formed one, a whole other argument on its own.) There was a mailing

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread Joseph Brennan
Everyone should block/defer ALL email with no reverse DNS. Then maybe those email admins would get a clue. AOL.com does just that. No, they don't, really. They 'may' do that (see below). Try it. Effective immediately: AOL 220- may no longer accept connections from IP addres

RE: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread Bowie Bailey
Jesse Stroik wrote: > Matt wrote: > > > > Everyone should block/defer ALL email with no reverse DNS. Then > > maybe those email admins would get a clue. > > No, they shouldn't. > > There are plenty of places still using mail gateways where the mail > server used for sending is still on an inter

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread Kris Deugau
Jesse Stroik wrote: There are plenty of places still using mail gateways where the mail server used for sending is still on an internal network, for a variety of legitimate reasons, and those mail servers may resolve to a private address. If you discard all mail with no appropriate reverse DNS

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread Jari Fredriksson
> This would probably only reach the list??? I have a > dynamic IP-address and no reverse DNS. I use Outlook > Express as client. Your smart host (mc.sverige.net (Sverige.Net Mail server v2.1.3)) has a rDNS, so no problems. My SA did not report missing rDNS from this mail. > > >> Justin M

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread Jesse Stroik
Matt wrote: I had the same issue and found that the system that's relaying (216.129.105.40) those confirmation emails doesn't have a PTR record. You'd think someone selling a antispam/email appliance would be familiar with the RFCs. That would explain why I got no confirmation, we do not accept

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread Justin Mason
John Hardin writes: > On Tue, 23 Sep 2008, Rob McEwen wrote: > > > Or, these could be "False-False Positives"... which is a very good thing > > because that would mean that those were really spams that would have > > scored "below threshold" without use of the new list. (or, some mix of > > th

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread Rob McEwen
John Hardin wrote: On Tue, 23 Sep 2008, Rob McEwen wrote: Or, these could be "False-False Positives"... which is a very good thing because that would mean that those were really spams that would have scored "below threshold" without use of the new list. (or, some mix of these two) So, for the

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 9/23/2008 5:12 PM, Johnny Stork wrote: Yet Another Ninja wrote: On 9/21/2008 8:51 AM, Jeff Chan wrote: [Pardon the spam; thought this new blacklist might be worth at least trying.] Apparently Barracuda will be publishing a free-to-use sender blacklist called BRBL: http://www.barracudacen

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread Matt
>> Everyone should block/defer ALL email with no reverse DNS. Then maybe >> those email admins would get a clue. >> > > We tried, > But when the client yells "I am losing my mails", you got to change > your rules We had same experience as well. But I still think it should be done, even though w

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008, Rob McEwen wrote: Or, these could be "False-False Positives"... which is a very good thing because that would mean that those were really spams that would have scored "below threshold" without use of the new list. (or, some mix of these two) So, for the purposes of an an

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread Rob McEwen
Yet Another Ninja wrote: FIW: 12 hr stats / tiny traffic trap box - no ham I use a couple of DNSWLs to reject traffic from potential hammy IPs RANKRULE NAME COUNT %OFMAIL %OFSPAM %OFHAM 1RCVD_BARRACUDA 19721 83.30 83.46 8.00 Spam detection seem

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread Johnny Stork
Yet Another Ninja wrote: On 9/21/2008 8:51 AM, Jeff Chan wrote: [Pardon the spam; thought this new blacklist might be worth at least trying.] Apparently Barracuda will be publishing a free-to-use sender blacklist called BRBL: http://www.barracudacentral.org/rbl Haven't tried it myself but t

RE: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread Chris Russell
> I've had servers listed on Barracuda before, despite 17 emails to their > support systems we never had any response, and had to change a customers > mail architecture to compensate. > > Very wary of them .. > > Chris > > > That would be because they were spamming then. Shame on you. Thats

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 9/21/2008 8:51 AM, Jeff Chan wrote: [Pardon the spam; thought this new blacklist might be worth at least trying.] Apparently Barracuda will be publishing a free-to-use sender blacklist called BRBL: http://www.barracudacentral.org/rbl Haven't tried it myself but thought it may be of intere

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread Lars Ebeling
; -- Mark Twain - Original Message - From: "Dave Koontz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Justin Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 6:59 PM Subject: Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List Justin Mason wr

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread support
Err, the default behaviour is NDR's are off, in fact. On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 10:08 -0700, fchan wrote: > You can set up Barracuda to not to reply to spam which is default > behavior, which I hate. This is the backscatter we all experienced > from Barracuda devices. I set one up for a friend but i

RE: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread support
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 11:24 +0100, Chris Russell wrote: > > The problem is in false positives - you won't get any mail with it > > I've had servers listed on Barracuda before, despite 17 emails to their > support systems we never had any response, and had to change a customers > mail architectur

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread Dave Koontz
Justin Mason wrote ... (9/22/2008 11:29 AM): > In fairness -- if you drop mail with no rDNS, you are dropping 3.6% of > legit email in general, going by the test results for our RDNS_NONE > rule... ;) > > --j. > Thanks for that stat Justin. I was always curious what others were seeing here. A

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-23 Thread ram
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 10:58 -0500, Matt wrote: > >> > I had the same issue and found that the system that's relaying > >> > (216.129.105.40) those confirmation emails doesn't have a PTR record. > >> > You'd think someone selling a antispam/email appliance would be familiar > >> > with the RFCs. >

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Marc Perkel
McDonald, Dan wrote: Henrik K wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 09:23:45AM -0500, Daniel J McDonald wrote: On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 10:14 -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote: On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Daniel J McDonald wrote: On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 18:18 -0500, Len Conrad wrote:

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread McDonald, Dan
> Henrik K wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 09:23:45AM -0500, Daniel J McDonald wrote: > >> On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 10:14 -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote: > >>> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Daniel J McDonald wrote: > >>> > On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 18:18 -0500, Len Conrad wrote: > > We're trying it today.

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread mouss
Joseph Brennan wrote: Ralf Hildebrandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My top rejections for today are: x28 smtp-out.orange.net[193.252.22.118]: Orange is a major ISP. Their mail-sending hosts are in 193.252.22 and 80.12.242. Mail from Orange runs about 85 to 90% spam here. The minority

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread mouss
Matt wrote: I had the same issue and found that the system that's relaying (216.129.105.40) those confirmation emails doesn't have a PTR record. You'd think someone selling a antispam/email appliance would be familiar with the RFCs. That would explain why I got no confirmation, we do not accept

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread mouss
Henrik K wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 09:23:45AM -0500, Daniel J McDonald wrote: On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 10:14 -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote: On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Daniel J McDonald wrote: On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 18:18 -0500, Len Conrad wrote: We're trying it today. Hmm I signed up for this 1-2 da

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Michael Scheidell
identify their netblock and never hear from them again. > > Is this hypothetical or does this happen to you in real life? Real life. Some 'rbl testing' companies make money by monitoring rb's. Some rbl testing software includes blocked.secnap.net Seems to come in spurts. Won't hear from anyone

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Michael Scheidell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > * Michael Scheidell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > >> SOUNDS LIKE MY FREE BLACKLIST: blocked.secnap.net (google for it), lists > >> all ipv4 addresses in the world. > >> (and for some reason, one of the perl maintainers used it) > > > > Finally. No. More.

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* SM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > At 08:58 22-09-2008, Matt wrote: >> Everyone should block/defer ALL email with no reverse DNS. Then maybe >> those email admins would get a clue. > > Assuming you have signed up for that service, Service? Sign up? It's a simple setting in the MTA. > would you whiteli

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Michael Scheidell
> * Michael Scheidell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> SOUNDS LIKE MY FREE BLACKLIST: blocked.secnap.net (google for it), lists >> all ipv4 addresses in the world. >> (and for some reason, one of the perl maintainers used it) > > Finally. No. More. Spam. Now lets see how many idiots start using it. F

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread SM
At 08:58 22-09-2008, Matt wrote: Everyone should block/defer ALL email with no reverse DNS. Then maybe those email admins would get a clue. Assuming you have signed up for that service, would you whitelist the sending host or wait for the postmaster to get a clue? Regards, -sm

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread fchan
You can set up Barracuda to not to reply to spam which is default behavior, which I hate. This is the backscatter we all experienced from Barracuda devices. I set one up for a friend but it does take awhile to look for the instructions and to get this setting correct which I don't understand wh

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Henrik K
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 09:23:45AM -0500, Daniel J McDonald wrote: > On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 10:14 -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote: > > > > On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Daniel J McDonald wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 18:18 -0500, Len Conrad wrote: > > >> We're trying it today. > > > > > > > Hmm I sign

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Matt wrote: I had the same issue and found that the system that's relaying (216.129.105.40) those confirmation emails doesn't have a PTR record. You'd think someone selling a antispam/email appliance would be familiar with the RFCs. That would explain why I got no confirmation, we do

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Michael Scheidell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > SOUNDS LIKE MY FREE BLACKLIST: blocked.secnap.net (google for it), lists > all ipv4 addresses in the world. > (and for some reason, one of the perl maintainers used it) Finally. No. More. Spam. -- Ralf Hildebrandt (i.A. des GB IT) [EMAIL

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > In fairness -- if you drop mail with no rDNS, you are dropping 3.6% of > > legit email in general, going by the test results for our RDNS_NONE > > rule... ;) > > Everyone should block/defer ALL email with no reverse DNS. Then maybe > those email admins would get a

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Dave Koontz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Rose, Bobby wrote ... (9/22/2008 10:24 AM): > > I had the same issue and found that the system that's relaying > > (216.129.105.40) those confirmation emails doesn't have a PTR record. > > You'd think someone selling a antispam/email appliance would be familiar

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Joseph Brennan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >> My top rejections for today are: >> >> % fgrep www.barracudanetworks.com/reputation /var/log/mail.log | >> awk '{print $10}' | sort |uniq -c | sort -n | tail >> >> 18 mx35.ispgateway.de[80.67.29.41]: > . . . >> 21 mx20.ispgateway.de[80.67.18

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Matt
>> > I had the same issue and found that the system that's relaying >> > (216.129.105.40) those confirmation emails doesn't have a PTR record. >> > You'd think someone selling a antispam/email appliance would be familiar >> > with the RFCs. >> > >> That would explain why I got no confirmation, we d

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Joseph Brennan
Ralf Hildebrandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My top rejections for today are: x28 smtp-out.orange.net[193.252.22.118]: Orange is a major ISP. Their mail-sending hosts are in 193.252.22 and 80.12.242. Mail from Orange runs about 85 to 90% spam here. The minority remaining are legit use

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Joseph Brennan
My top rejections for today are: % fgrep www.barracudanetworks.com/reputation /var/log/mail.log | awk '{print $10}' | sort |uniq -c | sort -n | tail 18 mx35.ispgateway.de[80.67.29.41]: . . . 21 mx20.ispgateway.de[80.67.18.53]: 21 mx43.ispgateway.de[80.67.29.52]: . . .

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Justin Mason
Dave Koontz writes: > Rose, Bobby wrote ... (9/22/2008 10:24 AM): > > I had the same issue and found that the system that's relaying > > (216.129.105.40) those confirmation emails doesn't have a PTR record. > > You'd think someone selling a antispam/email appliance would be familiar > > with the R

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Duane Hill
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Dave Koontz wrote: Rose, Bobby wrote ... (9/22/2008 10:24 AM): I had the same issue and found that the system that's relaying (216.129.105.40) those confirmation emails doesn't have a PTR record. You'd think someone selling a antispam/email appliance would be familiar with

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread mouss
mouss wrote: Justin Piszcz wrote: Hmm I signed up for this 1-2 days ago but never got a confirmation e-mail from them? What is the RBL name? They send from an IP without rDNS. Received: from barracudacentral.org (unknown [216.129.105.40]) you may have rejected or quarantined it. and

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread mouss
Justin Piszcz wrote: Hmm I signed up for this 1-2 days ago but never got a confirmation e-mail from them? What is the RBL name? They send from an IP without rDNS. Received: from barracudacentral.org (unknown [216.129.105.40]) you may have rejected or quarantined it.

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Michael Scheidell
>> The problem is in false positives - you won't get any mail with it > > I've had servers listed on Barracuda before, despite 17 emails to their > support systems we never had any response, and had to change a customers > mail architecture to compensate. > > Very wary of them .. > > Chris >

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Dave Koontz
Rose, Bobby wrote ... (9/22/2008 10:24 AM): > I had the same issue and found that the system that's relaying > (216.129.105.40) those confirmation emails doesn't have a PTR record. > You'd think someone selling a antispam/email appliance would be familiar > with the RFCs. > That would explain wh

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Ken A
Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:15 AM To: Daniel J McDonald Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Daniel J McDonald wrote: Hmm I signed up for this 1-2 days ago

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Robert LeBlanc
Dave Koontz wrote: Justin Piszcz wrote ... (9/22/2008 10:14 AM): Hmm I signed up for this 1-2 days ago but never got a confirmation e-mail from them? What is the RBL name? Justin. Same here. For those currently running this, how long did it take to get confirmation email and setup? I ran i

RE: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Martin.Hepworth
ssin.apache.org > Subject: Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation > Block List > > Justin Piszcz wrote ... (9/22/2008 10:14 AM): > > Hmm I signed up for this 1-2 days ago but never got a confirmation > > e-mail from them? What is the RBL name? > > > > Jus

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Curtis LaMasters
About 10 minutes. I've had it up and running for about 30 minutes now and I've gotten 127 hits. Pretty impressive. Now we will need to see what fallout occurs. :) Curtis LaMasters http://www.curtis-lamasters.com http://www.builtnetworks.com

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Dave Koontz
Justin Piszcz wrote ... (9/22/2008 10:14 AM): > Hmm I signed up for this 1-2 days ago but never got a confirmation > e-mail from them? What is the RBL name? > > Justin. Same here. For those currently running this, how long did it take to get confirmation email and setup? ~ Sparky ~

RE: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Rose, Bobby
EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:15 AM To: Daniel J McDonald Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Daniel J McDonald wrote: Hmm I signed up for this 1-2 days ago but never got a confirmati

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Daniel J McDonald
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 10:14 -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Daniel J McDonald wrote: > > > On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 18:18 -0500, Len Conrad wrote: > >> We're trying it today. > > > > Hmm I signed up for this 1-2 days ago but never got a confirmation e-mail > from them? What i

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Justin Piszcz
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Daniel J McDonald wrote: On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 18:18 -0500, Len Conrad wrote: We're trying it today. For the same period of about 4.5 hours, zen had about 110 hits, while b.barracuda had about 165. In about 26 hours I had 885 hits on b.barracuda, and 309 hits on the

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Justin Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The fact that there's a prominent removal-request link is a good > sign, in my opinion ;) Let's see how it goes. My top rejections for today are: % fgrep www.barracudanetworks.com/reputation /var/log/mail.log | awk '{print $10}' | sort |uniq -c | sort -

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Ken A
DAve wrote: Jeff Chan wrote: [Pardon the spam; thought this new blacklist might be worth at least trying.] Apparently Barracuda will be publishing a free-to-use sender blacklist called BRBL: http://www.barracudacentral.org/rbl Haven't tried it myself but thought it may be of interest. We

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Justin Mason
SM writes: > At 03:24 22-09-2008, Chris Russell wrote: > > I've had servers listed on Barracuda before, despite 17 emails to their > >support systems we never had any response, and had to change a customers > >mail architecture to compensate. > > It's a free blacklist. People will use it until

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