Re: outlook 2007 "Test" email scores 30+

2009-10-30 Thread djjmj
one small clarification, which didnt come to me until after I went to IPchicken. Our ISP is NOT our EmailSP We are using authenticaion on port 25. Tried 587, not configured on ESP side. John Hardin wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, djjmj wrote: > >> John Hardin wrote: >>> >> Dana may not have th

Re: outlook 2007 "Test" email scores 30+

2009-10-30 Thread djjmj
Thanks for the info Kris and John. I have something to work with the ISP now and somethings I can try on the client. BTW I agree with you on the Outlook existing comment. I have asked our ISP your questions throught our support post with them. We'll see what their response is. Kris Deugau wrote

Re: dns: sendto() failed:

2009-10-30 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 19:09 -0200, Rob Lingelbach wrote: > The other > possibility arose that because SELinux was also somewhat changed in > the multi-package update, that it was being more strict, but adjusting > iptables for port 53 fixed. thank you Mark. > IME SELinux is a pain in the

Re: outlook 2007 "Test" email scores 30+

2009-10-30 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, djjmj wrote: John Hardin wrote: Dana may not have that information - saying "which our ISP uses" suggests SA is not under their control. Correct SA is not under our control, just trying to find an answer to our problem. Dana: Does your ISP bounce the messages back

Re: outlook 2007 "Test" email scores 30+

2009-10-30 Thread Kris Deugau
djjmj wrote: We have been discussing with them since Sept 17th with no fixes yet. Once they found out Windows Mail Client didn't have an issue they have been unwilling to help. "Not a server side problem, your clients are the problem" Then tell them you're walking as soon as you find another

Re: outlook 2007 "Test" email scores 30+

2009-10-30 Thread LuKreme
On Oct 30, 2009, at 3:13 PM, djjmj wrote: Outlook 2007 for most of the clients under our domain are now having outgoing emails blocked by Spam Assassin, No they aren't. First, SpamAssassin doesn't block mail, ever. Second, SpamAssassin doesn't generally scan outbound mail. Your ISP has ma

Re: outlook 2007 "Test" email scores 30+

2009-10-30 Thread djjmj
John, Thank you for your interest and support. I will keep pushing our ISP to use this forum for a resolution. John Hardin wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, djjmj wrote: > >>> Try to ask your ISP's tech support to send you debugging info on some >>> of your emails. >> >> 11:53:31 [24.181.159

Re: outlook 2007 "Test" email scores 30+

2009-10-30 Thread djjmj
John Hardin wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, Kevin Gagel wrote: > >> What are you doing to SpamAssassin? >> Post your configuration then perhaps someone can help you. > >>>Dana may not have that information - saying "which our ISP uses" suggests >>>SA is not under their control. > > Correct S

Re: outlook 2007 "Test" email scores 30+

2009-10-30 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, djjmj wrote: Try to ask your ISP's tech support to send you debugging info on some of your emails. 11:53:31 [24.181.159.14][19038377] Authenticated as .org 11:53:31 [24.181.159.14][19038377] cmd: MAIL FROM: 11:53:31 [24.181.159.14][19038377] rsp: 250 OK Sender ok 11:

Re: outlook 2007 "Test" email scores 30+

2009-10-30 Thread djjmj
Toni Mueller-17 wrote: > > > Hi, > > On Fri, 30.10.2009 at 14:13:45 -0700, djjmj wrote: >> Outlook 2007 for most of the clients under our domain are now having >> outgoing >> emails blocked by Spam Assassin, which our ISP uses. This started in >> late >> September (Outlook/MS update??). Sim

Re: outlook 2007 "Test" email scores 30+

2009-10-30 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, Kevin Gagel wrote: What are you doing to SpamAssassin? Post your configuration then perhaps someone can help you. Dana may not have that information - saying "which our ISP uses" suggests SA is not under their control. Dana: Does your ISP bounce the messages back to yo

Re: outlook 2007 "Test" email scores 30+

2009-10-30 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Fri, 30.10.2009 at 14:13:45 -0700, djjmj wrote: > Outlook 2007 for most of the clients under our domain are now having outgoing > emails blocked by Spam Assassin, which our ISP uses. This started in late > September (Outlook/MS update??). Simple Text emails with "hello" or "test" > get s

Re: outlook 2007 "Test" email scores 30+

2009-10-30 Thread Kevin Gagel

outlook 2007 "Test" email scores 30+

2009-10-30 Thread djjmj
Outlook 2007 for most of the clients under our domain are now having outgoing emails blocked by Spam Assassin, which our ISP uses. This started in late September (Outlook/MS update??). Simple Text emails with "hello" or "test" get scored over 30. If I switch the users over to "windows mail" vs. "

Re: dns: sendto() failed:

2009-10-30 Thread Rob Lingelbach
On Oct 30, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Mark Martinec wrote: immediately perceptible relevant update) and now this error: (CentOS) Oct 30 15:34:31 spamd[16264]: dns: sendto() failed: Connection refused at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/ SpamAssassin/DnsResolver.pm line 395 Check health of the

Re: [sa] Re: RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED

2009-10-30 Thread Charles Gregory
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, Benny Pedersen wrote: On fre 30 okt 2009 16:39:04 CET, Charles Gregory wrote Once again, I'm finding a piece of spam getting through because of RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4 . what is the ip ? Don't think it really matters. As I stated in my OP, it looks like a reputable ISP t

Re: there goes the uri scripts..

2009-10-30 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Fre, 2009-10-30 at 19:23 +, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 15:10 -0400, Charles Gregory wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, Terry Carmen wrote: > > >> approval to a plan to permit Web addresses in characters other than the > > >> Latin alphabet, including Arabic, Chines

Re: there goes the uri scripts..

2009-10-30 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 15:40 -0400, Terry Carmen wrote: > While the new character-sets are great for business within a country, > they're not great for anybody planning on doing business in foreign (to > them) locations. > > "The Excellent Rice Company" can pick any Chinese characters they want,

Re: there goes the uri scripts..

2009-10-30 Thread James Butler
Oh yes ... there's no denying its complexity. But the desire to use one's native tongue is quite simple. James Butler Pete McNeil wrote: > James Butler wrote: >> We've fielded many, many inquiries about the availability of Arabic >> domain names over the past several years. Don't underestimate th

Re: there goes the uri scripts..

2009-10-30 Thread Pete McNeil
James Butler wrote: We've fielded many, many inquiries about the availability of Arabic domain names over the past several years. Don't underestimate the backlash against everything being in English for so long ... there are hordes (sorry) of folks who want to be able to use their native characte

Re: there goes the uri scripts..

2009-10-30 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Terry Carmen wrote: James Butler wrote: We've fielded many, many inquiries about the availability of Arabic domain names over the past several years. Don't underestimate the backlash against everything being in English for so long ... there are hordes (sorry) of folks who want to be able to us

Re: there goes the uri scripts..

2009-10-30 Thread Benny Pedersen
On fre 30 okt 2009 19:45:13 CET, Michael Scheidell wrote ICANN Approves Use Of Non-Latin Alphabets In Web Domain Names if the domain names conform to idn standard its okay with me -- xpoint

Re: RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED

2009-10-30 Thread Benny Pedersen
On fre 30 okt 2009 16:39:04 CET, Charles Gregory wrote Once again, I'm finding a piece of spam getting through because of RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4 . what is the ip ? http://www.dnswl.org/ make a request for change dont change problem in sa -- xpoint

Re: there goes the uri scripts..

2009-10-30 Thread Terry Carmen
James Butler wrote: We've fielded many, many inquiries about the availability of Arabic domain names over the past several years. Don't underestimate the backlash against everything being in English for so long ... there are hordes (sorry) of folks who want to be able to use their native characte

Re: SA Rule help question

2009-10-30 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, Rose, Bobby wrote: Does anyone know how a rule can be written to compare two header markers for similar info? Take a look at MAILER_EQ_ORG here: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/spamassassin/trunk/rulesrc/sandbox/jhardin/20_misc_testing.cf?view=log -- John Hardin KA7OHZ

Re: there goes the uri scripts..

2009-10-30 Thread James Butler
We've fielded many, many inquiries about the availability of Arabic domain names over the past several years. Don't underestimate the backlash against everything being in English for so long ... there are hordes (sorry) of folks who want to be able to use their native charactersets. James Butler

SA Rule help question

2009-10-30 Thread Rose, Bobby
Does anyone know how a rule can be written to compare two header markers for similar info? I don't think SA can do variable storage so I was thinking maybe a regex rule that normalizes what I want to focus on from a header in the regex search of another header. For example, let's say that I wa

Re: there goes the uri scripts..

2009-10-30 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 15:10 -0400, Charles Gregory wrote: > On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, Terry Carmen wrote: > >> approval to a plan to permit Web addresses in characters other than the > >> Latin alphabet, including Arabic, Chinese, Hindi and Korean. > > I'd be *really* surprised if these became popular

Re: there goes the uri scripts..

2009-10-30 Thread Charles Gregory
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, Terry Carmen wrote: approval to a plan to permit Web addresses in characters other than the Latin alphabet, including Arabic, Chinese, Hindi and Korean. I'd be *really* surprised if these became popular. The last thing any business wants to do is create a domain name that

Re: there goes the uri scripts..

2009-10-30 Thread Terry Carmen
Michael Scheidell wrote: ICANN Approves Use Of Non-Latin Alphabets In Web Domain Names http://www.crn.com/software/221400038 By Rick Whiting, ChannelWeb 9:14 AM EDT Fri. Oct. 30, 2009 Web surfers might begin seeing some very different Internet addresses next year. The governing body that over

there goes the uri scripts..

2009-10-30 Thread Michael Scheidell
ICANN Approves Use Of Non-Latin Alphabets In Web Domain Names http://www.crn.com/software/221400038 By Rick Whiting, ChannelWeb 9:14 AM EDT Fri. Oct. 30, 2009 Web surfers might begin seeing some very different Internet addresses next year. The governing body that oversees Internet addresses ha

Re: dns: sendto() failed:

2009-10-30 Thread Mark Martinec
Rob, > Been running Spamassassin for a long time with no problems until a > recent update of various packages including perl (but no other > immediately perceptible relevant update) and now this error: > > Oct 30 15:34:31 spamd[16264]: dns: sendto() > failed: Connection refused at /usr/lib/perl

dns: sendto() failed:

2009-10-30 Thread Rob Lingelbach
Been running Spamassassin for a long time with no problems until a recent update of various packages including perl (but no other immediately perceptible relevant update) and now this error: Oct 30 15:34:31 spamd[16264]: dns: sendto() failed: Connection refused at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_pe

RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED

2009-10-30 Thread Charles Gregory
Once again, I'm finding a piece of spam getting through because of RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4 . Is this just the 'occasional' FP that we have to live with? Or should I rethink scoring that DNSWL? According to the headers, it looks like an end user of a web mail account had their password hacked

Re: [Solved] Bad performance of Bayes with MySQL cluster

2009-10-30 Thread furban
John Hardin wrote: > > Suggestion: open a feature request bug to allow bayes autolearn to use a > different database connection string than bayes scoring. That way you > could configure all the daemons' autolearns to write to the master, but > distribute their scoring queries across X number

Barracuda List Broken

2009-10-30 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
Anyone else noticing lots of DNS timeouts on the Barracuda List today? Looks like it's really struggling. Perhaps they are hosting it on their own hardware now LOL.

Re: Shortcircuit Rules

2009-10-30 Thread Henrik K
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 02:21:10AM -0700, Mynabbler wrote: > > > Alex-325 wrote: > > I'm interested in experimenting with shortcircuiting, and wondered if > > anyone had some examples they're using that they could share? > We are using it to shortcircuit HAM and prevent blowing CPU cycles on > ne

Re: Auth questions

2009-10-30 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> >> I believe they all need full participation for them to be effective? > > > > That depends on your definition of "effective".  Each of these methods > > provides the recipient a way of determining the legitimacy of an email. > > If the sender is using one or more of these on his outgoing emails

Re: Shortcircuit Rules

2009-10-30 Thread Mynabbler
Alex-325 wrote: > I'm interested in experimenting with shortcircuiting, and wondered if > anyone had some examples they're using that they could share? We are using it to shortcircuit HAM and prevent blowing CPU cycles on newsletters that people expect to never contain spam. So, there is a 'short