Re: Is Fedora Linux protected against the Meltdown and Spectre security flaws?

2018-02-19 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 02/19/2018 06:04 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/19/18 21:51, Ranjan Maitra wrote: What do these mean, and what is the needed mitigation, if any? Basically, it means that everything that can currently be done to lessen the chances of a security breach is being done. Otherwise you may see some

Re: Is Fedora Linux protected against the Meltdown and Spectre security flaws?

2018-02-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 02/20/2018 12:39 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/20/18 15:51, Paul Allen Newell wrote: In earlier email in this thread, you stated: Yes.  As long as you don't have kernel modules which were built with a non-patched gcc. ls /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/*

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 10/20/18 9:03 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 20Oct2018 18:55, Stephen Perkins wrote: On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 6:01 PM stan wrote: Would you willingly or reluctantly migrate to the new platform? Neither.  If this list disappears, I will too. Likewise. And another likewise

Re: [URGENT] Assistance Requested in Looking for Dr Francis T. Seow, Harvard Law School Research Fellow

2010-05-26 Thread Paul Allen Newell
What does this have to do with Fedora? On 5/26/2010 9:03 PM, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: > Hi, > > First, I would like to apologize for the out-of-topic post. I will keep > this very short. > > Does anybody know Dr. Francis T. Seow, the former Solicitor-General from > the Republic of Sin

Re: Who's moderating this forum?

2010-07-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/17/2010 8:33 PM, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 21:58:30 -0400 > Marcel Rieux wrote: > > snip > Why does the name "Karl Larsen" keep running through my mind? > > -- cmg > I was wondering how long before I'd see this observation in one of the never-e

Re: Who's moderating this forum?

2010-07-19 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/19/2010 4:31 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote: > [...] > How come a Red Hat employee becomes so ignorant when it comes to > understanding patent issues? > > Buzz off with your stupidities about copyright and patents. It doesn't > help you make a point. I really don't understand how come Red Hat > doesn'

yum update and f12

2010-07-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
I've been offline for quite awhile and today went in to do a yum update to my system. I last did this on 14feb10. It claimed that there was a flash plugin update and that was it. Nothing from Fedora. This strikes me very strange. My quick searches showed questions about yum and f13, but I didn'

Re: yum update and f12

2010-07-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/20/2010 1:25 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:14:26 -0700, Paul wrote: > > >> I've been offline for quite awhile and today went in to do a yum update >> to my system. I last did this on 14feb10. It claimed that there was a >> flash plugin update and that was it. Nothing

Re: yum update and f12

2010-07-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
comments inline and at tail On 7/20/2010 2:04 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:45:11 -0700, Paul wrote: > > >> I also wanted to check about what >> exactly "clean metadata" was going to do [...] >> > It is safe to run. The command deletes the local repository metadata

[FALSE ALARM] Re: yum update and f12

2010-07-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/20/2010 3:36 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > comments inline and at tail > > On 7/20/2010 2:04 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:45:11 -0700, Paul wrote: >> >>> I also wanted to check about what >>> exactly "clean metadata"

Re: [FALSE ALARM] Re: yum update and f12

2010-07-21 Thread Paul Allen Newell
responses inline and at tail: On 7/20/2010 11:48 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > I explicitly referred to "more plugins", but at a second thought their > names would have been printed by 'yum -v repolist' already, too. There are > optional plugins for Yum, see 'yum list yum-plugin\*', and not all

Re: Turning off ipv6

2010-02-09 Thread Paul Allen Newell
inode0 wrote: > On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Tom H wrote: > >> Blacklisting ipv6 may not be enough to disable it completely; ipv6 can >> still be loaded with insmod/modprobe. >> >> If you add >> install ipv6 /bin/true >> to the blacklist entry, it will not load at all. >> > > I think i

Re: Turning off ipv6

2010-02-10 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 14:10 +, Timothy Murphy wrote: > >> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> >> To disable ipv6 on F12 on the next reboot just add the line net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1 to your /etc/sysctl.conf file. To dis

Re: Turning off ipv6

2010-02-12 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Andrew Parker wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Paul Allen Newell > wrote: > >> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> >>> I prefer changing something in /etc/sysctl.conf because it's clearly >>> where this kind of configuration change bel

Re: What happened to floppy drive support?

2010-02-21 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 20:36:09 +, > "n2xssvv.g02gfr12930" wrote: > >> I've been using a floppy boot disk as reserve if my HD boot fails, But >> it appears floppy support as now been removed. Why? Then how can I >> create an emergency media that is flexible enoug

Re: What happened to floppy drive support?

2010-02-21 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 14:45:59 -0800, > Paul Allen Newell wrote: > >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537741 >> > > I am already cc'd on that one. Though I suspect my issue is a udev > one, not a nautilus one. >

Re: How the H&*()*) do I turn auto numbering in OO Writer completely OFF ?

2010-02-21 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Linuxguy123 wrote: > I think I figured out how to turn off autonumbering. > > First of all, the help system on OO Writer version 3.3.1 Build 9420 is > wrong. > > To turn it on, it says: > > "OpenOffice.org can automatically apply numbering or bullets as you > type. > > To Enable Automatic Numberin

Re: How the H&*()*) do I turn auto numbering in OO Writer completely OFF ?

2010-02-22 Thread Paul Allen Newell
t; paragraphs I wish to have numbered. Isn't the purpose of software to >>>> make our lives easier ? >>>> >> Paul Allen Newell wrote: >> >>> Though you may have found a way to get rid of it (and I am glad and am >>> filling this emai

Re: How the H&*()*) do I turn auto numbering in OO Writer completely OFF ?

2010-02-22 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Amen to that. I think it was Brian Kernighan who said that in a WYSIWYG > system, what you see is *all* you get. > > poc > > Ah, now that is worth more than a smile as I did when the acronym was first mentioned. A tip of the hat to Brian and thanks to you for postin

Re: What happened to floppy drive support?

2010-02-23 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 20:17:36 -0800, > Paul Allen Newell wrote: > >> Bruno: >> >> Thanks for the reply. Let me/us know what the bug ID is of what you end >> of submitting as I have this feeling it will all end up be related and

Re: How the H&*()*) do I turn auto numbering in OO Writer completely OFF ?

2010-02-23 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 17:53 +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > >> Hiisi wrote: >> >>> In the concepts of acronyms >>> it's called WYSIWYM - what you see is what you *mean*. >>> >> On a tangent, I've heard web developers calling IE HTML rendering >> "WYSIWTF".

Re: Sorbet on Fedora's future

2010-03-22 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Michael Miles wrote: > Please stop this post.. On and on and on and on > > > > This is the first sensible post on this thread since it started. Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/li

Re: FPL steps down: what's the real story?

2010-04-01 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Tom H wrote: >> Get a blog for your uninformed opinions. I think you are seriously >> underestimating the amount of hostility your ramblings generate. >> > > +1 > +100 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedorapro

problem with speaker-test on f14 x86_64?

2011-06-10 Thread Paul Allen Newell
I've installed a HP Pavilion dv6500 with F14 x86_64 and, for flash, am using the suggested 32bit version with wrapper (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash). Everything seems to be working and I am getting audio in all my tests (mp3, mp4, qt, flash, audio CD, etc.). The one failure is with speak

Re: where is gnomebreakpad

2011-06-26 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 6/26/2011 11:22 AM, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > Enough. Grow up. > -- cmg Agreed, Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_g

Re: Fedora Security and the Uverse 3800HGV-B router

2011-07-02 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/2/2011 6:44 PM, Chris wrote: > Keep the language clean. I hope the moderator is watching It is time to ask, not hope, that moderator is watching ... this is one of the uglier dialogues I've seen -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options

Re: Fedora Security and the Uverse 3800HGV-B router

2011-07-02 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/2/2011 7:28 PM, Tom H wrote: > On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Mark C. Allman wrote: >> I read a few of the e-mails in this thread and that's all I needed to >> see. I think it's time for the list moderator to step in and call it a >> draw. > A draw?! > > If you ignore the harsh language, t

rc.local question/problem

2011-07-02 Thread Paul Allen Newell
I am trying to run clamav from rc.local so it happens whenever I power on and/or reboot. Script fails as though it can't open anything. Running the script as root works like a champ. Am I mistaken in thinking that I can run any *.sh file in ~root in rc.local and it will be run as root (meaning

problem with cron.d/0hourly

2011-07-02 Thread Paul Allen Newell
In a fresh install of f14 x86_64, I am getting a failure when /etc/cron.d/0hourly is run. As it is a fresh install, I am pretty certain it is a potential bug. I searched the bug base under "cron", "cron.d", "crontab", and "run-parts" (the call that is in 0hourly), but didn't see anything. I su

Re: rc.local question/problem

2011-07-02 Thread Paul Allen Newell
inline and at tail ... On 7/2/2011 9:45 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 02Jul2011 20:40, Paul Allen Newell wrote: [...] Am I mistaken in thinking that I | can run any *.sh file in ~root in rc.local and it will be run as root | (meaning no permission problems). That should be the case. (Of

Re: rc.local question/problem

2011-07-02 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/2/2011 10:06 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 07/02/2011 09:45 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: >> That should be the case. (Of course, SELinux can break anything - if you >> run out of ideas you could turn it off to see if the behaviour changes.) > I've had experience with SELinux issues. There's somethin

Re: rc.local question/problem

2011-07-03 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/3/2011 12:53 AM, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 02Jul2011 22:26, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > | On 7/2/2011 10:06 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > |> On 07/02/2011 09:45 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: > |>> That should be the case. (Of course, SELinux can break anything - if you > >

Re: rc.local question/problem (correction)

2011-07-03 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/3/2011 12:35 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > On 7/3/2011 12:53 AM, Cameron Simpson wrote: >> On 02Jul2011 22:26, Paul Allen Newell wrote: >> | On 7/2/2011 10:06 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> |> On 07/02/2011 09:45 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: >> |>> That should

Re: rc.local question/problem (partly solved w/ setenforce=0)

2011-07-03 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/3/2011 12:53 AM, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 02Jul2011 22:26, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > | On 7/2/2011 10:06 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > |> On 07/02/2011 09:45 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: > |>> That should be the case. (Of course, SELinux can break anything - if you > >

Re: rc.local question/problem (partly solved w/ setenforce=0)

2011-07-03 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/3/2011 2:54 PM, Paul Morgan wrote: On Jul 3, 2011 5:38 PM, "Paul Allen Newell" <mailto:pnew...@cs.cmu.edu>> wrote: it really is bad form to run a script out of root's home directory. Perhaps put it in /usr/sbin , restorecon, and leave selinux enforcing the who

Re: rc.local question/problem (partly solved w/ setenforce=0)

2011-07-03 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/3/2011 5:15 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 03Jul2011 15:02, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > | On 7/3/2011 2:54 PM, Paul Morgan wrote: > |>On Jul 3, 2011 5:38 PM, "Paul Allen Newell" |><mailto:pnew...@cs.cmu.edu>> wrote: > |> > |>it really

Re: rc.local question/problem (partly solved w/ setenforce=0)

2011-07-03 Thread Paul Allen Newell
inline and at tail ... On 7/3/2011 6:22 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 03Jul2011 17:35, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > > > My habit for a virus scanner would be sbin; these days bin is for general > purpose commands which sbin is for administrative commands (eg setenforce) > an

Re: HD permissions stay put

2011-07-03 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/3/2011 6:43 PM, 夜神 岩男 wrote: > > [...] > > Fedora doesn't care if you have a UID much > higher than 500, but Debian does care if your UID is lower than 1000 (in > fact, the man page for "useradd" on Fedora even says that 1000 is the > standard, Fedora just doesn't actually follow that). > > [s

Re: HD permissions stay put

2011-07-03 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/3/2011 8:59 PM, JD wrote: > > How about just modifying the user's uid gid (while su'ed to root): > usermod -u NEW-UID -g NEW-GID LoginName > chown -R NEW-UID.NEW-GID ~LoginName > exit su shell > Log out > and log back in. > > I was assuming that uid shouldn't be changed once committed to a use

Re: HD permissions stay put

2011-07-03 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/3/2011 9:19 PM, JD wrote: > On 07/03/2011 09:09 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: >> On 7/3/2011 8:59 PM, JD wrote: >>> How about just modifying the user's uid gid (while su'ed to root): >>> usermod -u NEW-UID -g NEW-GID LoginName >>> chown -R NEW-UI

Re: HD permissions stay put

2011-07-03 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/3/2011 9:33 PM, 夜神 岩男 wrote: > On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 20:38 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > [...] > > Creating that first user throught the firstboot dialogue isn't required, > it is just a nice way to get the ball rolling. You can > to the next tty and login as root

Re: HD permissions stay put

2011-07-03 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/3/2011 9:56 PM, 夜神 岩男 wrote: > > The root account already exists, and you can log directly into it from a > text login prompt. You just can't do it through GDM, so you will have to > hop to another tty by hitting++ or boot to runlevel 3 > (or the equivalent now that we are in the opening days

Re: HD permissions stay put

2011-07-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/4/2011 2:26 AM, Tim wrote: > > If you simply mean being able to understand how each system works, then > fine. But if you mean that you're going to share discs, or other > storage devices, or NFS mounts, between different people's computers. > You're going to have to manually work out, betwee

Re: HD permissions stay put

2011-07-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/4/2011 3:34 PM, g wrote: > On 07/04/2011 09:09 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > <> > >> The issue of 500 vs 1000 was the new bit I learned from this >> thread and need to add to the process. > another to add, if you are a user on multi systems on multi machines an

Re: HD permissions stay put

2011-07-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/4/2011 9:06 PM, Tim wrote: > On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 22:34 +, g wrote: >> if you are a user on multi systems on multi machines and you wish to >> log into other machines, user name, id's, _and_ password need to be >> same. > Um, no, generally the passwords don't need to be the same. You jus

Re: HD permissions stay put

2011-07-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/4/2011 9:26 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > You may be thinking of the r* commands (rcp, rsh, ...) but I can't be > bothered looking up the details. They are frowned on nowadays in any > case. > > poc > Maybe as that was "convention" back then ... its all s* commands now and I suppose that

mail / mailx question

2011-07-07 Thread Paul Allen Newell
I am running an F14 system which is pretty much out-of-the-box except I have the machine hardcoded to 192.168.2.13 to keep my network happy. I see all sorts of uses of 'mail [...] root@localhost' which work great when I look in /var/spool/mail/root. I have read the mail / mailx documentation an

Re: mail / mailx question

2011-07-08 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/7/2011 10:45 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > What is the MX record for whatever.edu? > > host -t mx whatever.edu > [paul@yoyo ~]$ host -t mx cs.cmu.edu cs.cmu.edu mail is handled by 10 MX-LB-02.SRV.cs.cmu.edu cs.cmu.edu mail is handled by 10 MX-LB-03.SRV.cs.cmu.edu cs.cmu.edu mail is handled by 10 MX-

Re: mail / mailx question

2011-07-08 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/8/2011 5:10 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > Does your ISP permit you to send mail directly via port 25? Many do not > these days - which means outgoing mail will need to be sent using your > ISP's mail sending agent. > > I suggest before sending via command line tools - you use a GUI mail > clie

Re: mail / mailx question

2011-07-08 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/8/2011 5:44 AM, Steven Stern wrote: > What do you see in /var/log/maillog when you try to send a message > outside your system? > Jul 7 22:18:11 yoyo sendmail[2893]: p685IBvb002893: from=, size=528, class=0, nrcpts=2, msgid=<201107080518.p685IBV1002892@localhost.localdomain>, proto=ESMTP,

Re: mail / mailx question

2011-07-08 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/8/2011 2:58 PM, Steven Stern wrote: > On 07/08/2011 04:46 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: >> Jul 8 14:09:16 yoyo sendmail[1513]: p685IBvb002893: >> to=, ctladdr= (500/500), >> delay=15:51:05, xdelay=00:06:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=150723, >> relay=mx-lb-03.srv.cs.cmu.edu

Re: mail / mailx question

2011-07-08 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/8/2011 4:42 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > FWIW, I see > other responses which should lead to a resolution. > > One thing that I do is to telnet to the ports being used to make sure a > connection is being made. If it is standard SMTP I'll do... > > telnet MX-LB-01.SRV.cs.cmu.edu 25 > > or if SSL/TL

Re: rc.local question/problem (mostly solved)

2011-07-10 Thread Paul Allen Newell
I've been able to figure out that running clamscan from cron.d works with SELinux but rc.local doesn't and one has to use setenforce. I managed to get enough material together to submit Bug #720223 as that just doesn't seem right. My system now does update and scan on reboot and then cron jobs

SOLVED: Re: mail / mailx question

2011-08-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Solution was to edit /etc/mail/sendmail.mc to add RELAY_MAILER_ARGS and ESMTP_MAILER_ARGS with the correct port number and then to use the '-r' option of mailx to fake out the sender to an legit address (in my case, using same address as who I am sending to). Never got to the issue of dealing w

question regarding gcc on f14

2011-08-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell
While dealing with some compiling issues, I noticed that the current gcc on F14 is 4.5.1 and that gcc.gnu.org says that the latest is 4.5.3 ... and it appears they've gone off into 4.6.x. I would like to know if Fedora plans to migrate F14 to 4.5.3 or stay at 4.5.1. I don't have any issue with

question on nautilus

2011-08-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell
I am trying to change the default text editor in what I think is Nautilus from gedit to vim. All the info I see online either addresses it for another Linux flavor and/or seems to imply that I should see Gvim as an option when I go into file->preferences (which I do not). I spotted one link wit

Re: question on nautilus

2011-08-05 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Frank from Melville Theater gave me a solution that worked thanks !!! On 8/4/2011 11:47 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > I am trying to change the default text editor in what I think is > Nautilus from gedit to vim. All the info I see online either addresses > it for another Linux f

html on Fedora -- looking for "where to go"

2011-08-07 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Community: I have @330 htm pages that display wonderfully on Win XP under 4.01 Strict. No errors per w3C validator. They won't even come close to proper display on Fedora 14. I can get them validated successfully on F14 through w3c Validator, but I am seeing error console reports in Firefox ab

Re: html on Fedora -- looking for "where to go"

2011-08-08 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/8/2011 12:42 AM, Andras Simon wrote: > > w3c's html validator is unlikely to signal problems with your > javascript (and no validator could if the problem is not a syntactic > one). Andras: Thanks for reply. Regarding the validator, your comment was/is understood before I wrote my email .

Re: html on Fedora -- looking for "where to go"

2011-08-08 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/8/2011 4:12 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > Start digging in your Javascript code. The fact that Firefox is > complaining about various Javascript functions is you big, honking clue. > Sam: Thanks for reply. As mentioned in a prior response to Andras, since WinXP and F14 are both using Fir

Re: html on Fedora -- looking for "where to go"

2011-08-08 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/8/2011 4:19 AM, Tim wrote: > . > As others have said, it's most likely a browser issue. JavaScript > nearly always is (that, or an authoring error). There are news groups > that deal with web authoring that might be your best bet, but put on > your flameproof suit, they'll be far more critic

Re: html on Fedora -- looking for "where to go"

2011-08-08 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Joel: Thanks for reply ... my answers(?) inline On 8/8/2011 3:30 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > >> Regarding the validator, your comment was/is understood before I wrote >> my email ... > Not quite, perhaps. I am prepared to discover my understanding is not as good as I thought it was (smile) > Well,

[SOLVED] Re: html on Fedora -- looking for "where to go"

2011-08-08 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/8/2011 5:56 PM, Tim wrote: > > For anybody dabbling with scripting, I'd advise trying to find out about > compatibilities (what's common, what's browser specific). First, my thanks to everyone who offered help / suggestions. After checking the add-ons suggestions, I came to the conclusion th

Re: [SOLVED] Re: html on Fedora -- looking for "where to go"

2011-08-09 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/9/2011 6:17 AM, Tim wrote: > On Mon, 2011-08-08 at 18:15 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: >> assuming case-insensitivity > [...] > > > > Once you've set yourself a rule, it's easier to be consistent throughout > your site. Particularly if you put enough t

Re: [SOLVED] Re: html on Fedora -- looking for "where to go"

2011-08-09 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/9/2011 5:10 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 5:53 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: >> [...] >> I wish the Chicago Manual of Style would weigh in on url name >> conventions (not to mention typography in code). Not that I'd agree with >> them, but i

Re: binary file not running

2011-08-10 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/10/2011 10:06 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/10/2011 08:57 PM, shailesh wrote: >> #include >> int main() >> { >> printf("hello"); >> return 0; >> } >> >> >> [tommy@tommy cprog]$ gcc hello.c > chmod o+x a.out >> [tommy@tommy cprog]$ ./a.out >> bash:./a.out : Permission denied On F14 x86-64 (more i

Re: [SOLVED] Re: html on Fedora -- looking for "where to go"

2011-08-10 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Lots of replies to read and digest ... thanks Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines

telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-15 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Greetings I am trying to figure out how to get communication between my F14 boxes on a local wired LAN. The best test case I can come up with to prove that I don't know what I am doing wrong is telnet. Each machine has a /etc/hosts looking like (where is the machine name and is any other mac

Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-15 Thread Paul Allen Newell
[no content from sender in this message?] On 8/15/2011 11:09 PM, James Hogarth wrote: Sent from Android mobile On Aug 16, 2011 6:04 AM, "Paul Allen Newell" <mailto:pnew...@cs.cmu.edu>> wrote: > Greetings > > I am trying to figure out how to get communication betwe

Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-15 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/15/2011 11:13 PM, James Hogarth wrote: > > > > It seems that the telnet problem is a simpler one than the mail/mailx > > and if I can at least get telnet working, then I am closer to getting > > mail/mailx working. > > > > Any suggestions? > > 1) Why telnet? SSH is much more secure and should

Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-16 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Thanks to everyone for replies ... lot of information that I need to learn about before I can test. I wanted to make sure I got this "thanks" out now rather than waiting for me to sort through it all. Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: How to mount floppy?

2011-08-16 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/16/2011 10:57 AM, Vinny Onelli wrote: > Is the floppy > supported in Fc14? > See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=567533 (amongst other bugs). My floppy drive has been dead for a couple releases ... I figure that media has gone the way of the 8-track tape Paul -- users mailin

Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-16 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/16/2011 10:51 PM, Andre Speelmans wrote: I have been going through all the responses I got so far and am now in process of going through this. I can't test the 127.0.0.1 as I've got my systems somewhat horked trying to sort things out ... after this email I am backing everything up to "fac

Re: How to mount floppy?

2011-08-16 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/16/2011 7:52 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > >> mount -t msdos /dev/fd0u1440 /mnt/floppy >> >> See URL: >> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/fedora-13-mounting-floppy-813466/ >> > Worked for me on F13. Cannot speak for later versions. I am off floppys at this point, but I'd be

Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
partial answers to two replies ... On 8/17/2011 6:07 AM, Rick Sewill wrote: > May I suggest inserting an entry, at this spot, for mail, something like the > following. > -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 25 -j ACCEPT > The goal of the previous line is to jump to "ACCEPT" for any

Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/17/2011 6:07 AM, Rick Sewill wrote: > iptables entries are processed in the order found... > > [...] > I apologize for not reading your original message and going off on a > telnet/ssh > tangent in a previous email. > Rick: Thanks for the explanation. Though I had gotten a good 70% of it, th

Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/17/2011 12:49 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > On 08/17/2011 08:25 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > > One of the interesting things is I am now getting >> "connection refused" rather than "no route to host" and I need to see >> what change I made caused t

Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
inline and at bottom ... On 8/17/2011 6:36 AM, Tim wrote: > > The original poster isn't trying to "telnet," they're using the the > telnet client as a diagnostic tool for other services. correct Ping works great between all of the machines for both and .localdomain, lists the 192.168.

Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/17/2011 10:42 PM, Andre Speelmans wrote: > > You just pinpointed why you can not telnet (port 23) or reach port 25. > Andre: I just got your two email replies and am going through them. There is one earlier test regarding 127.0.0.1 that someone requested that I want to get the results out

Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/16/2011 7:43 AM, Tim wrote: > On Mon, 2011-08-15 at 22:04 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > > > Do you really have: > >> NTPSERVERARGS=iburst > In the /etc/sysconfig/network file? > Yes, that seems to be part of the factory install or it is something that I have no

Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
To all who have replied to my query/queries: Someone asked me about whether I could telnet to myself ... I can't find that email (though I know I have it since I haven't deleted any on this thread). That being said, I am not certain what exact test I was asked to run. My memory is that it had

Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-18 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/18/2011 1:48 AM, Tim wrote: > > Well, your original post had two sets of IPs mentioned: > >192.168.10.x and 192.168.2.y > > Did a typo creep in, so they should have all started with 192.168.2 and > only the last quad was unique for each device? TYPO !!! My apologies, I did a proof read a

Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-18 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/18/2011 1:32 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > On 08/18/2011 07:33 AM, Andre Speelmans wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Paul Allen Newell >> wrote: >>> On 8/17/2011 12:49 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: >>>> I would have just duplicated the ssh rule, wh

Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-18 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/17/2011 11:55 PM, James Hogarth wrote: Based on the above you have one subnet of 192.168.2.0/24 with 192.168.2.3 as the gateway. Yes I think there was some confusion when you mentioned firewall rules on your router. Traffic between hosts on the same subnet d

Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-18 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/17/2011 10:42 PM, Andre Speelmans wrote: >>> An additional thing to check is if you are listening on port 23 (or 25). >>> Try "netstat -tnlp" and search ":23" (or ":25"). You will find the >>> name of the process listening. Check if it is listening on 0:0:0.0 or >>> just on 127.0.0.1. The 127.

Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-18 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/18/2011 8:59 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 20:15 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > > of course - you have it right. Whew, that's good to know (smile) > > Of course a telnet server would generally use the well-known TCP port 23 > but gen

Re: {Disarmed} Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-18 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/18/2011 9:07 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 20:47 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: >> [root@yoyo ~]# netstat -anp | grep ":25" >> tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:250.0.0.0:* >> LISTEN 1510/sendmail: acce >> [root@yoyo ~

Re: {Disarmed} Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-18 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/18/2011 9:23 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > On 8/18/2011 9:07 PM, Craig White wrote: >> On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 20:47 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: I am not certain how the word "{Disarmed}" got into the subject ??? Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.or

Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-18 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/17/2011 10:33 PM, Andre Speelmans wrote: > > Two things: > First, try without any firewall (service iptables stop), or enter a > first line like: iptables -I INPUT -j ACCEPT, just so we can isolate > the problem. > > If that fails, look what actually gets send on the server (tcpdump -i > eth0

Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-18 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/18/2011 9:33 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 21:31 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: >> telnet chalupa 23 >> telnet chalupa 25 >> telnet chalupa > > first and third are essentially the same > second one because chalupa isn't listening

Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-18 Thread Paul Allen Newell
To all those who have replied to my questions and wanted to know the "why/what" of my set-up as an aid to figuring out what I am trying to do: Though familiar with Unix/Linux for a long time, it has always been as a software developer with good sysAdmins to deal with all "that stuff". When I fi

Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-19 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/19/2011 1:28 AM, Rick Sewill wrote: > >> In all three cases, the return was: >> +++ >> telnet: connect to address 192.168.2.0: Connection refused > Is this a typo? Did it say > telnet: connect to address 192.168.2.10: Connection refused > Rick: Typo ... the keyboard "1" sometimes fails to co

Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-19 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/19/2011 12:15 AM, Tim wrote: Tim: Multiple replies received and I am going through them Thanks, Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.or

Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-19 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/18/2011 9:49 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > > > Your earlier email indicates that to solve the mail/mailx between > machines, I need comment out that line in sendmail.mc and I will get > the results you indicated. Sure worth a try, let me give it a go. > Craig: I comment

Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-21 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/20/2011 5:52 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > > You do have the "sendmail-cf" package installed and are running > /etc/mail/make when you're done editing your configuration, as explained > at the top of sendmail.mc, correct? > Yup, learned about that one on my first round of dealing with mail T

Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-21 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/20/2011 9:17 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > Craig White wrote: >> >> >> I thought the command was 'make /etc/mail' and that it hasn't been >> necessary for about the last 10 years when restarting sendmail >> via /etc/init.d/sendmail restart (or service sendmail restart) would >> automati

Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-21 Thread Paul Allen Newell
[inline] On 8/20/2011 3:42 AM, Craig White wrote: > > If it looks something like this on your SMTP server > # netstat -an > Active Internet connections (servers and established) > Proto R-Q S-Q Local Address Foreign Address State > tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN Verified th

Re: telnet on local LAN question

2011-08-21 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/20/2011 1:42 AM, Tim wrote: > > This is from my old server: > > dnl # The following causes sendmail to only listen on the IPv4 loopback > address > dnl # 127.0.0.1 and not on any other network devices. Remove the loopback > dnl # address restriction to accept email from the internet or intran

Re: telnet on local LAN question (progress?)

2011-08-21 Thread Paul Allen Newell
ine of "+++", a cut-n-paste of the mail command, and a closing "+++" +++ running mail +++ [paul@chowder ~]$ mail Heirloom Mail version 12.5 7/5/10. Type ? for help. "/var/spool/mail/paul": 2 messages > 1 Paul Allen Newell Sun Aug 21 18:17 24/897 "chowder

[ENDING THREAD] Re: telnet on local LAN question (progress?)

2011-08-21 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 8/21/2011 9:44 PM, Craig White wrote: > > > I really don't have much interest in ploughing through all of your e-mails > and all of the answers you get which just confuse the whole situation. > > All you really need to do is set smarthost on all of the LAN machines - > all machines smartho

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