Re: Strange symbolic link behaviour?

2011-07-05 Thread Ian Malone
On 5 July 2011 05:24, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 13:59 +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: >> ls is behaving correctly. Bash is presenting a ridiculous fiction to >> you via its "pwd" builtin, which lies. Try doing your test above >> again, and wherever you type "pwd", also run "

Re: HD permissions stay put

2011-07-05 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 21:20 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > I remember getting burned by different passwds for same user back in > the 1980's ... can't remember the specifics. Though I am certain > things have gotten much better in dealing with networks and protocols, > I thought there was still

Re: HD permissions stay put

2011-07-05 Thread Daniele Guerrieri
very useful thread, i've just sync all my data between my various "linuxes" :-) let's see how arch will work with uid/gid 500/500 :) Thanks, Daniele -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/

High CPU usage when copying files to USB mass storage device

2011-07-05 Thread 某因幡
Hi, I've tried to copy some different files to an USB flash disk and an USB HDD and tried different USB hubs. After a while the system gets very slow, switching between windows can take quite a while. The copying speed is slow, too(only several MB/s to an empty USB HDD). The machine is not old, jus

Re: Name resolution

2011-07-05 Thread John Aldrich
On Tue July 5 2011, Tim wrote: > On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 12:52 -0400, John Aldrich wrote: > > might I suggest trying Google Public DNS servers? 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.8.4 > > are the IP addresses. My ISP apparently runs some sort of filtering > > and occasionally I have problems with their DNS, so I switche

Re: Name resolution

2011-07-05 Thread 夜神 岩男
> I finish my mail : i just try 3 times to send the mail because > thunderbid failed to send it due to configuration problem on the server > smtp.googlemail.com I open a CLI and run ping smtp.googlemail.com the > server answer fine and i achieve to send my email. > ?? > Eric Perhaps a bogus DNS

Fedora tools for technical analysis of stocks

2011-07-05 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All, Is there some tool that works on Fedora to do technical analysis of stocks in stock markets? Thanks in advance, Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: ht

Re: Fedora tools for technical analysis of stocks

2011-07-05 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Paul Smith wrote: > Dear All, > > Is there some tool that works on Fedora to do technical analysis of > stocks in stock markets? > > Thanks in advance, > > Paul > -- I think not yet, because the real time data in most cases are paid. -- Itamar R

Re: HD permissions stay put

2011-07-05 Thread 夜神 岩男
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 10:48 +0200, Daniele Guerrieri wrote: > very useful thread, i've just sync all my data between my various "linuxes" > :-) > let's see how arch will work with uid/gid 500/500 :) > > Thanks, > Daniele Its a good idea to use UID sets >= 1000. Everything based on Debian conside

Re: Name resolution

2011-07-05 Thread 夜神 岩男
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 06:34 -0400, John Aldrich wrote: > On Tue July 5 2011, Tim wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 12:52 -0400, John Aldrich wrote: > > > might I suggest trying Google Public DNS servers? 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.8.4 > > > are the IP addresses. My ISP apparently runs some sort of filtering >

Re: Name resolution

2011-07-05 Thread Tom H
2011/7/5 夜神 岩男 : > On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 06:34 -0400, John Aldrich wrote: >> On Tue July 5 2011, Tim wrote: >> > On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 12:52 -0400, John Aldrich wrote: >> > > might I suggest trying Google Public DNS servers? 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.8.4 >> > > are the IP addresses. My ISP apparently runs so

Re: X server in F14 horribly slow

2011-07-05 Thread Martín Marqués
Since last night I'm having these messages too on my laptop: kernel: [ 388.964307] [drm:drm_mode_getfb] *ERROR* invalid framebuffer id CPU gets really loaded and top says it's Xorg who os eating the CPU. Any ideas? Couldn't find anything on bugzilla and no updates available, not even on *testin

Re: Fedora tools for technical analysis of stocks

2011-07-05 Thread Joe Wulf
Ditto that---I'm also interested in mutual funds. R, -Joe - Original Message > From: Paul Smith > To: Community support for Fedora users > Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 7:27:41 AM > Subject: Fedora tools for technical analysis of stocks > > Dear All, > > Is there some tool that works on

Re: Fedora tools for technical analysis of stocks

2011-07-05 Thread Marcos Ortiz
Well, for stock markets analysis you can R http://r-project.org Regards On 07/05/2011 07:07 AM, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote: > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Paul Smith wrote: >> Dear All, >> >> Is there some tool that works on Fedora to do technical analysis of >> stocks in stock markets? >> >> T

openoffice

2011-07-05 Thread Maurizio Marini
As far as i have understood, in f15 there no openoffice and there is libreoffice in place i am planning to upgrade f14 to f15, is it better uninstalling openoffice and let preupgrade to install libreoffice? or si better let him to do the work? -m. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.o

Re: openoffice

2011-07-05 Thread Antonio M
2011/7/5 Maurizio Marini : > As far as i have understood, in f15 there no openoffice and there is > libreoffice in place > i am planning to upgrade f14 to f15, is it better uninstalling > openoffice and let preupgrade to install libreoffice? or si better let him to > do the work? > > -m. > -- > use

Re: tftp from home dir running under xinetd

2011-07-05 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/04/2011 01:20 AM, Gene Smith wrote: > I can manually run a tftp server that allows access to files in a > directory under ~ with no problem. But when I try to run the server > under xinetd using the /etc/xinetd.d/tftp configuration file a > "p

Re: Name resolution

2011-07-05 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/05/2011 08:16 AM, Tom H wrote: >> >> http://dontbubble.us/ >> >> Avoiding Google entirely has brought a great deal of standardization and >> rationality back to my organization -- that we didn't realize was >> beginning to get shaky until just recently. Such an insidious thing, >> filtered a

Re: openoffice

2011-07-05 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/05/2011 06:26 PM, Maurizio Marini wrote: > As far as i have understood, in f15 there no openoffice and there is > libreoffice in place > i am planning to upgrade f14 to f15, is it better uninstalling > openoffice and let preupgrade to install libreoffice? or si better let him to > do the work

Re: tftp from home dir running under xinetd

2011-07-05 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/04/2011 01:57 PM, Marcos Ortiz Valmaseda wrote: > For that reason, you have to see the avc denials; where you can check which > is the process and system calls that are been denied (xinetd or tftpd) > > Which is the SELinux policy version in yo

Re: Name resolution

2011-07-05 Thread Tim
Tim: >> I run my own DNS server, for a similar reason: Every ISP I've tried >> has a crappy DNS server. Before I did that, I had to put some >> domain's IP into my hosts file, because their DNS server usually gave >> no answer. John Aldrich: > yeah... I just can't be bothered to set up BIND. Tha

Kicad Questions

2011-07-05 Thread Vincent Onelli
Hi, I just installed Kicad and I have a couple question for some one familiar with "PCB design" I generated a new part and saved in my user directory, but the program does not give me the option to access any other directory other the default. The second question, can PCB design show a picture

HowTo install network without gui or tui available?

2011-07-05 Thread Thomas Schweikle
Hi! Since I could not find a working Howto for Fedora 15: How do I install networking without having gui or tui tools available? Even without having the ability to use them (if they where installed)? I could not find any description not using gui setup tools ... :-( -- Thomas signature.asc

Re: Name resolution

2011-07-05 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 08:16 -0400, Tom H wrote: > Do you have any proof that Google's using queries to its Public DNS > service to profile anyone (in spite of its FAQ clarifying that it > isn't)? I'd certainly have my doubts. I tend to have little faith in the public declarations of what corporat

Re: HowTo install network without gui or tui available?

2011-07-05 Thread Mike Chambers
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 15:50 +0200, Thomas Schweikle wrote: > Hi! > > Since I could not find a working Howto for Fedora 15: > > How do I install networking without having gui or tui tools > available? Even without having the ability to use them (if they > where installed)? > > I could not find an

Re: Running httpd as a user

2011-07-05 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/02/2011 05:20 AM, Steve Searle wrote: > Around 07:49am on Saturday, July 02, 2011 (UK time), Jonathan Gardner > scrawled: > >> I build websites for a living. I'd like to get /usr/sbin/httpd running >> as a regular user. I've setup a directory w

Re: HowTo install network without gui or tui available?

2011-07-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.07.2011 15:50, schrieb Thomas Schweikle: > Hi! > > Since I could not find a working Howto for Fedora 15: > > How do I install networking without having gui or tui tools > available? Even without having the ability to use them (if they > where installed)? > > I could not find any descript

Re: Name resolution

2011-07-05 Thread JB
Tim yahoo.com.au> writes: > ... > Want an example? There's the president who "did not have sex with that > woman." Well, he apparently did have some sexually intimate relations, > just not conjoined genitals. So the denial is correct, but incorrect. > ... Not only that ! She claimed to have

Need Support For Latest Hardware?

2011-07-05 Thread Navdeep Singh Sidhu
As i wrote my problem some weeks ago, that Fedora 15 or any other linux version didn't run on my Laptop.I got two problems:- 1. My screen goes Black on booting Linux. 2.I got Intel error with following message > - Dropping to debug shell. > sh: can't access tty: job control turned off > dracut:/

Re: HowTo install network without gui or tui available?

2011-07-05 Thread g
On 07/05/2011 02:03 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: <> > echo "DEVICE=eth0" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 > echo "" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 > echo "IPADDR=10.0.0.99" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 > echo "NETWORK=10.0.0.0" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/if

Re: Name resolution

2011-07-05 Thread John Aldrich
On Tue July 5 2011, 夜神 岩男 wrote: > > No, the purpose of Google Public DNS is to give Google insight into > every network query you make. Your filterbubble is heavily influenced by > your history record in Google's DNS system if you have dodged the other > ways of tracking. This sort of profiling g

Re: HowTo install network without gui or tui available?

2011-07-05 Thread Thomas Schweikle
Am 05.07.2011 15:56, schrieb Mike Chambers: > On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 15:50 +0200, Thomas Schweikle wrote: >> Hi! >> >> Since I could not find a working Howto for Fedora 15: >> >> How do I install networking without having gui or tui tools >> available? Even without having the ability to use them (

Re: GRUB problem

2011-07-05 Thread Navdeep Singh Sidhu
Dear Bruno Martins, Try to use rescatux it will help you to reinstall or update your more easier than shell method. Check details here http://linuxgndu.webs.com/apps/forums/topics/show/4882966-method-to-repair-or-reinstall-your-grub-boot-loader- for any other help email gain. Regards, Navdeep Si

Re: Fedora tools for technical analysis of stocks

2011-07-05 Thread JB
Paul Smith gmail.com> writes: > > Dear All, > > Is there some tool that works on Fedora to do technical analysis of > stocks in stock markets? > > Thanks in advance, > > Paul Google search: unix linux stock tech analysis e.g. http://qtstalker.sourceforge.net/ http://eiffel-mas.sourceforge.ne

Re: HowTo install network without gui or tui available?

2011-07-05 Thread Thomas Schweikle
Am 05.07.2011 16:03, schrieb Reindl Harald: > > > Am 05.07.2011 15:50, schrieb Thomas Schweikle: >> Hi! >> >> Since I could not find a working Howto for Fedora 15: >> >> How do I install networking without having gui or tui tools >> available? Even without having the ability to use them (if the

Re: Name resolution

2011-07-05 Thread John Aldrich
On Tue July 5 2011, 夜神 岩男 wrote: > No, the purpose of Google Public DNS is to give Google insight into > every network query you make. Your filterbubble is heavily influenced by > your history record in Google's DNS system if you have dodged the other > ways of tracking. This sort of profiling goe

Re: HowTo install network without gui or tui available?

2011-07-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.07.2011 17:14, schrieb g: > On 07/05/2011 02:03 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > <> > >> echo "DEVICE=eth0" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 >> echo "" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 >> echo "IPADDR=10.0.0.99" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 >> echo "NETWORK=1

Re: Name resolution

2011-07-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.07.2011 17:17, schrieb John Aldrich: > On Tue July 5 2011, 夜神 岩男 wrote: >> >> No, the purpose of Google Public DNS is to give Google insight into >> every network query you make. Your filterbubble is heavily influenced by >> your history record in Google's DNS system if you have dodged the

Re: HowTo install network without gui or tui available?

2011-07-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.07.2011 17:28, schrieb Thomas Schweikle: > vi was available tought. But: tried it. Doesn't work. I have now: > DEVICE="p3p1" > TYPE=Ethernet > BOOTPROTO=dhcp > HWADDR="" > ONBOOT="yes" > USERCTL="no" > NM_CONTROLLED="no" > > After booting: > root@tola ~# ifconfig > lo Link encap:Local lo

Re: Name resolution

2011-07-05 Thread stan
On Tue, 05 Jul 2011 20:45:13 +0900 夜神 岩男 wrote: ... > Your filterbubble is heavily influenced > by your history record in Google's DNS system if you have dodged the > other ways of tracking. > > http://dontbubble.us/ ... ixquick ( https://www.ixquick.com/ ) is another privacy search option. It

Re: Installing F15 without any active network?

2011-07-05 Thread mike cloaked
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > We are going around in circles. My question to you was did you use the > "Install a new system or upgrade an existing system" option? > > You responded: > "Install new system was the option - if you go from there you don't > reach any repo d

Re: HowTo install network without gui or tui available?

2011-07-05 Thread Thomas Schweikle
Am 05.07.2011 17:31, schrieb Reindl Harald: > > > Am 05.07.2011 17:28, schrieb Thomas Schweikle: > >> vi was available tought. But: tried it. Doesn't work. I have now: >> DEVICE="p3p1" >> TYPE=Ethernet >> BOOTPROTO=dhcp >> HWADDR="" >> ONBOOT="yes" >> USERCTL="no" >> NM_CONTROLLED="no" >> >> Af

Re: High CPU usage when copying files to USB mass storage device

2011-07-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 17:01 +0800, 某因幡 wrote: > Hi, > I've tried to copy some different files to an USB flash disk and an USB HDD > and tried different USB hubs. > After a while the system gets very slow, switching between windows can take > quite a while. The copying speed is slow, too(only severa

Re: HowTo install network without gui or tui available?

2011-07-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 18:06 +0200, Thomas Schweikle wrote: > > why reboot? > > "service network stop" and "service network start" exists > > Faster: > typing "reboot" including reboot: 2s > typing "service network stop; service network start" takes longer: > 10s ;-) Oh come on! Your system reboot

Re: Need Support For Latest Hardware?

2011-07-05 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/05/2011 11:08 AM, Navdeep Singh Sidhu wrote: Sounds like you have a sandy bridge computer with nvidia/onboard intel i915 combo graphics. I have a lenovo with that setup - and the lenovo BIOS lets me turn off the nvidia (high end) graphics - so its certainly doable - some vendors do no

Re: Cannot recompile grub - checking whether the C compiler works... no

2011-07-05 Thread Joshua C.
2011/7/5 Jakub Jelinek : > On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 11:41:41PM +0200, Joshua C. wrote: >> 2011/6/12 Joshua C. : >> > As the subject says I cannot recompile grub. Everytime I get "checking >> > whether the C compiler works... no". I explicitely installed all >> > packages from >> > http://kojipkgs.f

Re: Name resolution

2011-07-05 Thread 夜神 岩男
> >> yeah... I just can't be bothered to set up BIND. That's what things like > >> Google Public DNS is for. :D > > > > No, the purpose of Google Public DNS is to give Google insight into > > every network query you make. Your filterbubble is heavily influenced by > > your history record in Google

Blinking cursor after reboot with Preupgrade

2011-07-05 Thread Richard Shaw
Since I know I don't have enough ram to do a fresh install I'm trying to upgrade my old EEEPC 701 from F13 to F15 via Preupgrade. I ran preupgrade-cli from runlevel 3 to maximize the amount of ram available at everything appears to run fine prior to the reboot. When I try to run the upgrade from G

Re: Blinking cursor after reboot with Preupgrade

2011-07-05 Thread Terry Polzin
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 13:35 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > Since I know I don't have enough ram to do a fresh install I'm trying > to upgrade my old EEEPC 701 from F13 to F15 via Preupgrade. I ran > preupgrade-cli from runlevel 3 to maximize the amount of ram available > at everything appears to run

updated bind for: CVE-2011-2464 / CVE-2011-2465

2011-07-05 Thread Genes MailLists
Is there an update for bind coming to F15/6 to address CVE-2011-2464 / CVE-2011-2465 I didn't find one in koji .. Thanks ... gene -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users

Re: tftp from home dir running under xinetd

2011-07-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/05/2011 06:02 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > Are you seeing any Messages in /var/log/audit/audit.log? Thank you, Daniel. This should probably be the automatic answer to anybody blaming SELinux for their trouble. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change sub

Re: Name resolution

2011-07-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/05/2011 07:40 AM, JB wrote: > Not only that ! > She claimed to have smoked but not inhaled too ... :-) Obviously you've never smoked either a pipe or a cigar. The only form of tobacco you inhale is a cigarette. Oh, wait, you probably weren't talking about tobacco, were you? Never mind! -

Re: Blinking cursor after reboot with Preupgrade

2011-07-05 Thread Richard Shaw
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Terry Polzin wrote: > What are the kernel versions involved? >From memory the F13 kernel was 2.6.34.9. Can't remember the release, but does that matter? Doesn't the preupgrade process install a new (presumably F15) kernel in /boot/upgrade? Thanks, Richard -- user

Re: updated bind for: CVE-2011-2464 / CVE-2011-2465

2011-07-05 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > >  Is there an update for bind coming to F15/6 to address > >    CVE-2011-2464 / CVE-2011-2465 > > >  I didn't find one in koji .. Looks like bind-9.8.0-7.P4.fc16 is currently building but that is affected too? -- mike c -- users mailing

Re: Name resolution

2011-07-05 Thread JB
Joe Zeff zeff.us> writes: > > On 07/05/2011 07:40 AM, JB wrote: > > Not only that ! > > She claimed to have smoked but not inhaled too ... > > Obviously you've never smoked either a pipe or a cigar. The only form > of tobacco you inhale is a cigarette. > > Oh, wait, you probably weren't tal

Re: Blinking cursor after reboot with Preupgrade

2011-07-05 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
Richard Shaw wrote: > Since I know I don't have enough ram to do a fresh install I'm trying > to upgrade my old EEEPC 701 from F13 to F15 via Preupgrade. I ran > preupgrade-cli from runlevel 3 to maximize the amount of ram available > at everything appears to run fine prior to the reboot. > > When

Re: gnu linux update question

2011-07-05 Thread Beartooth
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 12:57:44 +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > On 06/30/2011 01:31 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: [] >> It's a secret :-) Seriously, I noticed it maybe a year or so ago and >> have mentioned it several times on this and other lists, but it's still >> not well-known. It cer

Re: Fedora tools for technical analysis of stocks

2011-07-05 Thread Paul Smith
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:21 PM, JB wrote: >> Is there some tool that works on Fedora to do technical analysis of >> stocks in stock markets? > > Google search: unix linux stock tech analysis > e.g. > http://qtstalker.sourceforge.net/ > http://eiffel-mas.sourceforge.net/ > > They are in tar.gz form

Re: Name resolution

2011-07-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 03:31 +0900, 夜神 岩男 wrote: > The filter bubble issue is very real. If you and I do a search on > Google for any given string, logged in to a Google account of any sort > or not, we will receive different results. This is a fact. Something they can do perfectly easily with cook

Re: gnu linux update question

2011-07-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 19:37 +, Beartooth wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 12:57:44 +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > > > On 06/30/2011 01:31 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > [] > >> It's a secret :-) Seriously, I noticed it maybe a year or so ago and > >> have mentioned it several times on

Re: HowTo install network without gui or tui available?

2011-07-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/05/2011 08:28 AM, Thomas Schweikle wrote: > vi was available tought. But: tried it. Doesn't work. Did vi itself fail you or were you unable to make/save the changes needed? If the latter, remember that only root can write to those files. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: HowTo install network without gui or tui available?

2011-07-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/05/2011 08:31 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > why reboot? > "service network stop" and "service network start" exists > Quite possibly habit, based on experience with Windows. Until (I think) XP, Windows only read its configuration data at boot, meaning that you had to restart to make almost a

A comment on yum-updatesd

2011-07-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
I just installed the above, thinking it would be useful, but it turns out it doesn't seem to do the one thing I want it for: update metadata periodically (without downloading the actual packages). I haven't altered any of the config defaults, nor any of those in yum.conf, yet when I use yum after a

Re: Name resolution

2011-07-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/05/2011 11:31 AM, 夜神 岩男 wrote: > DNS query history would be the single most potent addition to Google's > profiling tags (as in naked profiling, on subjects who are not logged in > to a Google service or accepting tracking cookies or other devices). How do they keep track of people like me w

Re: updated bind for: CVE-2011-2464 / CVE-2011-2465

2011-07-05 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 07/05/2011 07:42 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > Is there an update for bind coming to F15/6 to address > > CVE-2011-2464 / CVE-2011-2465 You can use the CVE numbers as a bugzilla alias to access these bugs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=CVE-2011-2464 https://bugzilla.red

Re: Installing F15 without any active network?

2011-07-05 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 17:05 +0100, mike cloaked wrote: > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > > We are going around in circles. My question to you was did you use the > > "Install a new system or upgrade an existing system" option? > > > > You responded: > > "Install new syst

Re: gnu linux update question

2011-07-05 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 07/05/2011 08:37 PM, Beartooth wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 12:57:44 +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > >> On 06/30/2011 01:31 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > [] >>> It's a secret :-) Seriously, I noticed it maybe a year or so ago and >>> have mentioned it several times on this and other

spaceballs...

2011-07-05 Thread DJ Delorie
Is there a standard for how multi-axis trackballs (spaceballs) interact with X? Are they common enough to "just work" now or is it the usual proprietary-hardware-nightmare still? The common trackball seems to have the ball, some scrollwheel replacement and a bunch of buttons. It would be nice t

Re: gnu linux update question

2011-07-05 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 07/05/2011 08:50 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 19:37 +, Beartooth wrote: >> On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 12:57:44 +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: >> >>> On 06/30/2011 01:31 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> [] It's a secret :-) Seriously, I noticed it maybe a year

Re: Installing F15 without any active network?

2011-07-05 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > I am glad to drop it but 2 people said they had done the installation > without having setup networking right after entering the host name. > Since you never got to the adding repo stage their setting up networking > at that point in the inst

Re: spaceballs...

2011-07-05 Thread Rick Stevens
On 07/05/2011 02:01 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > > Is there a standard for how multi-axis trackballs (spaceballs) > interact with X? Are they common enough to "just work" now or is it > the usual proprietary-hardware-nightmare still? "They've gone...plaid! Prepare for ludicrous speed!" (sorry, c

Re: Installing F15 without any active network?

2011-07-05 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:14 PM, mike cloaked wrote: By the way, yes I did set a hostname but did not set up networking on the same screen - little point since the network was not accessible (in fact not only was DHCP set to not give an address to the machine, but if a static ip was set then the

Re: updated bind for: CVE-2011-2464 / CVE-2011-2465

2011-07-05 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/05/2011 04:28 PM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > On 07/05/2011 07:42 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: ... > > You can use the CVE numbers as a bugzilla alias to access these bugs: > > Thanks for the tips - very useful- I did look at these - and I also looked in koji and ended here: http://koji.fedo

Re: updated bind for: CVE-2011-2464 / CVE-2011-2465

2011-07-05 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 07/05/2011 10:25 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=251722 > > I -think- this has the fix based on the links you gave - at least it > appears that P4 fixes this/these - but there are no comments for the > build that explicitly say that CVE-2011-2

Re: spaceballs...

2011-07-05 Thread DJ Delorie
Rick Stevens writes: > I'd bring up xevent or whatever and push/pull/poke/twist, take note of > what events it generates and do your own thing. At this point, I'm still wondering if ANYTHING would show up in xevent :-) I know XInput can handle a larger numbers of buttons. Can it handle more th

Re: updated bind for: CVE-2011-2464 / CVE-2011-2465

2011-07-05 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/05/2011 05:38 PM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: ... > Usually the ChangeLog lines for the bind package include a CVE number so I > wouldn't generally want to assume that it did but the upstream advisories for > both CVEs specifically mention 9.8.0-P4 as containing the fix: > > http://www.isc.org/so

RPM Packaging Guide -- Last revision

2011-07-05 Thread Marcos Ortiz
Regards to all the Fedora users I want to improve many of my rpm packages that I want to maintain (some new packages and some old ones), so I want to follow the last revision of the RPM Packaging Guide. Where I can find these resources? Thanks for your time -- Marcos Luís Ortíz Valmaseda Sof

Re: HowTo install network without gui or tui available?

2011-07-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.07.2011 18:06, schrieb Thomas Schweikle: >> you did "chkconfig network on"? > > Yes I did, but I didn't verify it doing its job as expected thats why not reboot for such things >> why reboot? >> "service network stop" and "service network start" exists > > Faster: Not really > typing

Re: High CPU usage when copying files to USB mass storage device

2011-07-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.07.2011 18:14, schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: > Flash drives can become slow because of their internal > architecture, fragmentation, wear leveling etc. flash drive and fragmentation? jokingly? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedora

Re: HowTo install network without gui or tui available?

2011-07-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.07.2011 22:10, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 07/05/2011 08:31 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> why reboot? >> "service network stop" and "service network start" exists > > Quite possibly habit, based on experience with Windows. Until (I think) > XP, Windows only read its configuration data at boot,

How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE

2011-07-05 Thread Reindl Harald
in the newest release the shortcut for restart X11 is disabled and i hate it because if X11 drives crazy it is really useful and where i work nobody kills my X11 if he won't killed self i guess the following config-file does this disable but the comment says "changes here are useless", so how tell

Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE

2011-07-05 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
Reindl Harald wrote: > 00-system-setup-keyboard.conf > # This file is autogenerated by system-setup-keyboard. Any > # modifications will be lost. > > Section "InputClass" > Identifier "system-setup-keyboard" > MatchIsKeyboard "on" > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > Option "

Re: spaceballs...

2011-07-05 Thread Rick Stevens
On 07/05/2011 02:39 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > > Rick Stevens writes: >> I'd bring up xevent or whatever and push/pull/poke/twist, take note of >> what events it generates and do your own thing. > > At this point, I'm still wondering if ANYTHING would show up in xevent > :-) > > I know XInput can

Hang up when starting Plymouth-daemon in F15

2011-07-05 Thread ganu MailList
How to resolve it There are three systems in my ThinkadPad R400. Windows 7, CentOS5.3Fedora 15 But now it cannot enter system. Hang up when starting Plymouth daemon Can anyone know how to resolved it? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscripti

New Boinc 6.12.33 doesn't work with Fedora?

2011-07-05 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
There is a new version of Boinc 6.12.33, but neither the client or manager seems to work with Fedora. The previous 6.12.28 client would work, but the manager failed. The new client thou does work with the older manager. The issue seems to be libraries. I backed up the Boinc directory before do

Re: Name resolution

2011-07-05 Thread Tim
夜神 岩男: >> DNS query history would be the single most potent addition to Google's >> profiling tags (as in naked profiling, on subjects who are not logged in >> to a Google service or accepting tracking cookies or other devices). Joe Zeff: > How do they keep track of people like me who have dynamic

Re: HowTo install network without gui or tui available?

2011-07-05 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 05.07.2011 15:50, schrieb Thomas Schweikle: >> >> Since I could not find a working Howto for Fedora 15: >> >> How do I install networking without having gui or tui tools >> available? Even without having the ability to use them (if they >>

Re: HowTo install network without gui or tui available?

2011-07-05 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 05.07.2011 15:50, schrieb Thomas Schweikle: >> >> Since I could not find a working Howto for Fedora 15: >> >> How do I install networking without having gui or tui tools >> available? Even without having the ability to use them (if they >>

Re: Name resolution

2011-07-05 Thread Tom H
2011/7/5 夜神 岩男 : > >> >> yeah... I just can't be bothered to set up BIND. That's what things like >> >> Google Public DNS is for. :D >> > >> > No, the purpose of Google Public DNS is to give Google insight into >> > every network query you make. Your filterbubble is heavily influenced by >> > your

Re: High CPU usage when copying files to USB mass storage device

2011-07-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 22:09 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 05.07.2011 18:14, schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: > > Flash drives can become slow because of their internal > > architecture, fragmentation, wear leveling etc. > > flash drive and fragmentation? > jokingly? No, not joking, though fragmen

Re: spaceballs...

2011-07-05 Thread g
On 07/05/2011 09:01 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > Is there a standard for how multi-axis trackballs (spaceballs) > interact with X? Are they common enough to "just work" now or is it > the usual proprietary-hardware-nightmare still? axis are 'x' and 'y'. no 'z', or other direction. > The common trackb

Re: spaceballs...

2011-07-05 Thread g
On 07/06/2011 03:06 AM, g wrote: <> > there are ir leds emitting at surface of balls and ir detectors receiving > reflections from ball surface. in addition, there are some trackball mice that use a roller bar, ie, like a standard mouse. i do not recommend them. they do not track well. you will

Re: Name resolution

2011-07-05 Thread 夜神 岩男
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 13:28 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 07/05/2011 11:31 AM, 夜神 岩男 wrote: > > DNS query history would be the single most potent addition to Google's > > profiling tags (as in naked profiling, on subjects who are not logged in > > to a Google service or accepting tracking cookies or

Re: Name resolution - take this offline please

2011-07-05 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/05/2011 11:23 PM, 夜神 岩男 wrote: > > The footprint of a user by Google's way of doing things is quite a bit > larger than cookies or IP tracking. They do not rely on any one set of > This conspiracy opinion stuff has nothing to do with fedora - please take this discussion out of the mail

Re: spaceballs...

2011-07-05 Thread DJ Delorie
Rick Stevens writes: > As I said, try it and see. They're too expensive to "just try it", hence wanting to see if someone else has already tried it and had some info on how well X interacted with the hardware, and if there was a standard way to talk to it from software. > You might want to try

Re: spaceballs...

2011-07-05 Thread DJ Delorie
g writes: >> It would be nice to be able to *rotate* the ball, or push it in >> various directions, etc. But only if there's a sane mapping to X >> events. > > *roll* would be a better description than 'rotate'. Not at all, since I'm talking about spaceballs, not trackballs. A spaceball can s

Re: Need Support For Latest Hardware?

2011-07-05 Thread Jatin K
On Tuesday 05 July 2011 08:38 PM, Navdeep Singh Sidhu wrote: > As i wrote my problem some weeks ago, that Fedora 15 or any other > linux version didn't run on my Laptop.I got two problems:- > 1. My screen goes Black on booting Linux. > 2.I got Intel error with following message > > - Dropping to d

Re: spaceballs...

2011-07-05 Thread g
On 07/06/2011 04:22 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: <> > Not at all, since I'm talking about spaceballs, not trackballs. ok. so how about a link to who makes 'spaceballs'. > A spaceball can sense not only the usual X/Y rolling motion that a > trackball supports, but it can also sense rotation (CW/CCW) and

Re: spaceballs

2011-07-05 Thread g
On 07/06/2011 05:04 AM, g wrote: > On 07/06/2011 04:22 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > <> > >> Not at all, since I'm talking about spaceballs, not trackballs. > > ok. so how about a link to who makes 'spaceballs'. well, not to wait for a reply, a quick google search provided some answers. Logitech's su

Re: spaceballs...

2011-07-05 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/06/2011 06:22 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > > g writes: > >>> It would be nice to be able to *rotate* the ball, or push it in >>> various directions, etc. But only if there's a sane mapping to X >>> events. >> >> *roll* would be a better description than 'rotate'. > > Not at all, since I'm talkin

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