Re: internal network

2025-03-10 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2025-03-09 at 16:51 -0400, Robert McBroom via users wrote: > The Spectrum modem only has oneport. It would only connect to their > proprietary router with an extra monthly charge not my Reyee. If a PC can connect to it, so can a router. They may require you to connect something to it so

Re: internal network

2025-03-09 Thread Robert McBroom via users
On 3/2/25 8:10 AM, Barry Scott wrote: On 2 Mar 2025, at 12:25, Will McDonald wrote: Your life would be made a lot simpler if you had a small switch or router, as Tim suggested. You can even get USB-powered devices. All the ISP modems I have ever seen have a 3 or 4 port switch built in.

Re: internal network

2025-03-06 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2025-03-06 at 19:42 -0600, Michael Hennebry wrote: > What is daisy-chaining? Named after making a necklace from intertwining daisies together, it's one thing connected to another, to another through another, to another through another, etc. Internet <--> PC <--> PC <--> PC -- uname -r

Re: internal network

2025-03-06 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 3/6/25 5:42 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: What is daisy-chaining? Forwarding (each device has two distinct connections)? This. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject

Re: internal network

2025-03-06 Thread Michael Hennebry
What is daisy-chaining? Multi-drop bus (each device connected to a common wire)? Forwarding (each device has two distinct connections)? Something else? Discovering the topology was easy. Details, not so much. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental

Re: internal network

2025-03-03 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2025-03-03 at 17:21 +0100, Patrick Dupre via users wrote: > Following your suggestion, I set the following > > On PC A, the interface for PC C with IP 10.42.1.1 with a gateway to 10.42.0.2 > and on PC C > IP 10.42.1.2 with a gateway to 10.42.1.1 I am thoroughly confused by that descriptio

Re: internal network

2025-03-03 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 3/3/25 3:30 AM, Patrick Dupre via users wrote: Connection between A and B work fine. The only think that I cannot build is the connection with PC C (I manually set up the ip address, etc..) What do you mean by You could configure the two ethernet ports on PC A as a bridge or you could again

Re: internal network

2025-03-03 Thread Patrick Dupre via users
> > On Mon, 2025-03-03 at 12:30 +0100, Patrick Dupre via users wrote: > > Is bridge synonymy of "shared to other computers"? > > No, it's more of a straight through (or over, hence the name). Or, you > might think of it as a pass-through. > > > If yes, every time that I do that, it generates an a

Re: internal network

2025-03-03 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2025-03-03 at 12:30 +0100, Patrick Dupre via users wrote: > Is bridge synonymy of "shared to other computers"? No, it's more of a straight through (or over, hence the name). Or, you might think of it as a pass-through. > If yes, every time that I do that, it generates an address in 10.40

Re: internal network

2025-03-03 Thread Patrick Dupre via users
55.255.255.0 broadcast 10.42.0.255 > > > > but PC B cannot connect (connection fails) > > I just tested this setup and it works with no problem. > I don't have wifi on the desktop, just two ethernet ports, but it should > be the same. > One ethernet port goes to "

Re: internal network

2025-03-02 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2025-03-02 at 20:38 +0100, Patrick Dupre via users wrote: > Trying to add a nameserver. > > On PC B, I have > Global > Protocols: LLMNR=resolve -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=no/unsupported > resolv.conf mode: stub > > Link 2 (enp3s0) > Current Scopes: LLMNR/IPv4 LLMNR/IPv6 >

Re: internal network

2025-03-02 Thread Samuel Sieb
just tested this setup and it works with no problem. I don't have wifi on the desktop, just two ethernet ports, but it should be the same. One ethernet port goes to "the internet" (internal network, but same). The other ethernet port I configured in the Gnome network manager as &

Re: internal network

2025-03-02 Thread Patrick Dupre via users
Trying to add a nameserver. On PC B, I have Global Protocols: LLMNR=resolve -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=no/unsupported resolv.conf mode: stub Link 2 (enp3s0) Current Scopes: LLMNR/IPv4 LLMNR/IPv6 Protocols: -DefaultRoute LLMNR=resolve -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=no/unsupported

Re: internal network

2025-03-02 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2025-03-02 at 09:58 -0500, bruce wrote: > hey Tim. > > saw your post. could u let us know who the offending is is so we can > avoid if possible!! Hi Bruce, My fired FTTP ISP was Telstra (Australia's service from hell), that thinks it's a premium service provider despite having outsour

Re: internal network

2025-03-02 Thread bruce
hey Tim. saw your post. could u let us know who the offending is is so we can avoid if possible!! On Sun, Mar 2, 2025, 9:50 AM Tim via users wrote: > Patrick Dupre: > > > Yes the schamatics is correct. > > I set the gateway and now it works. > > > > Now > > 1) I wish to use internet from PC A

Re: internal network

2025-03-02 Thread Tim via users
Patrick Dupre: > Yes the schamatics is correct. > I set the gateway and now it works. > > Now > 1) I wish to use internet from PC A. > I guess that I need to set a name server > But not possible manually Presuming that you just mean for using the internet... If internet sharing is working, the

Re: internal network

2025-03-02 Thread Patrick Dupre via users
Thank for the feedback.   It is just a temporally solution. I must get a new doogle at the end of next week. Before I had PC A with the 2 internet interfaces connected to PC B and PC C. The setup was easy, and new had problem.   Now From PC B nmcli connection show NAME                  

Re: internal network

2025-03-02 Thread Barry Scott
> On 2 Mar 2025, at 12:25, Will McDonald wrote: > > Your life would be made a lot simpler if you had a small switch or router, as > Tim suggested. You can even get USB-powered devices. All the ISP modems I have ever seen have a 3 or 4 port switch built in. Doesn't yours? Barry --

Re: internal network

2025-03-02 Thread Will McDonald
On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 at 09:12, Patrick Dupre wrote: > I set the gateway and now it works. > > Now > 1) I wish to use internet from PC A. > I guess that I need to set a name server > But not possible manually > nmcli connection modify ipv4.dns (From: https://idroot.us/fedora-41-network-configurati

Re: internal network

2025-03-02 Thread Patrick Dupre via users
Thank for the feedback.   Yes the schamatics is correct. I set the gateway and now it works.   Now 1) I wish to use internet from PC A. I guess that I need to set a name server But not possible manually   2) How do I need to set for PC 3 From PC A From PC C I tried several things

Re: internal network

2025-03-01 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2025-03-01 at 23:22 +0100, Patrick Dupre via users wrote: > I had a configuration with was working, but my usb WiFi doogle does > not work anymore. Replacing it isn't an option? As for the best way forward... It might be worth letting us know if you were using a mix of cabled ethernet an

Re: internal network

2025-03-01 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2025-03-01 at 16:03 +0100, Patrick Dupre via users wrote: > I have 2 PC A and B. > Before A what connected to the world wireless > and PC B was connected through an internet cable (wired). > PC A lost its wireless connection. > Now PC B is connected to the world through a telephone and I wa

Re: internal network

2025-03-01 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 3/1/25 4:18 PM, Will McDonald wrote: On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 at 22:22, Patrick Dupre via users mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org>> wrote: I am lost. I had a configuration with was working, but my usb WiFi doogle does not work anymore. The configuration which was working

Re: internal network

2025-03-01 Thread Will McDonald
On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 at 22:22, Patrick Dupre via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > I am lost. > > I had a configuration with was working, but my usb WiFi doogle does not > work anymore. > The configuration which was working > > Doogle on PC A with 2 ethernet cards. > One connected to P

Re: internal network

2025-03-01 Thread Patrick Dupre via users
> To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Subject: Re: internal network > > On 3/1/25 7:03 AM, Patrick Dupre via users wrote: > > I have 2 PC A and B. > > Before A what connected to the world wireless > > and PC B was connected through an internet cable (wired). > > P

Re: internal network

2025-03-01 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 3/1/25 7:03 AM, Patrick Dupre via users wrote: I have 2 PC A and B. Before A what connected to the world wireless and PC B was connected through an internet cable (wired). PC A lost its wireless connection. Now PC B is connected to the world through a telephone and I want to have PC A connecte

internal network

2025-03-01 Thread Patrick Dupre via users
Hello, I have 2 PC A and B. Before A what connected to the world wireless and PC B was connected through an internet cable (wired). PC A lost its wireless connection. Now PC B is connected to the world through a telephone and I want to have PC A connected also through the same internet cable and

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-25 Thread Michael Hennebry
It seems I badly misnterpreted the verb "to give". -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Sorry but your password must contain an uppercase letter, a number, a haiku, a gang sign, a heiroglyph, and the blood of a virgin." -- some

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-25 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 3/25/22 00:48, Tim via users wrote: R. G. Newbury: edit your /etc/hosts file to give the hdhomerun unit a fixed IP address. Tim When has the /etc/hosts file ever given anything an IP address? R. G. Newbury You are correct, and I am completely wrong. A static address for the computer wo

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-25 Thread Tim via users
R. G. Newbury: > edit your /etc/hosts file to give the hdhomerun unit a fixed IP > address. Tim >>> When has the /etc/hosts file ever given anything an IP address? R. G. Newbury >>> You are correct, and I am completely wrong. A static address for >>> the computer would be set by editing

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-24 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 3/24/22 20:34, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2022, R. G. Newbury wrote: On 2022-03-20 8:00 a.m., Tim >R. G. Newbury wrote: edit your /etc/hosts file to give the hdhomerun unit a fixed IP address. When has the /etc/hosts file ever given anything an IP address? You are correct, an

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-24 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sun, 20 Mar 2022, R. G. Newbury wrote: On 2022-03-20 8:00 a.m., Tim >R. G. Newbury wrote: edit your /etc/hosts file to give the hdhomerun unit a fixed IP address. When has the /etc/hosts file ever given anything an IP address? You are correct, and I am completely wrong. A static address f

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-22 Thread Bob Marcan
On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 00:34:55 -0600 Robin Laing wrote: > In my network, devices are assigned DHCP IP address according to their MAC > address. My wireless access point uses mac filtering. > > With DHCP being assigned via MAC address, then they get a static IP address > fixed to that device. T

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-22 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2022-03-22 at 00:34 -0600, Robin Laing wrote: > In my network, devices are assigned DHCP IP address according to > their MAC address. Mine too, virtually all DHCP servers do (even if not providing fixed static addresses, but just nearly always giving the same addresses), that's always been

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-21 Thread Robin Laing
On 2022-03-20 12:50, Tim via users wrote: On Sun, 2022-03-20 at 12:13 -0400, R. G. Newbury wrote: 'Configuring the DHCP server to work that way', is to set it to deliver a static address. With a dhcp server, the problem is that any change in the network, or the items connecting to it, can cause

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-20 Thread Tim via users
Tim wrote: >> If you want a predictable LAN, then I really only see two ways to >> manage that without major pain: >> >> 1. Run a DHCP server with a DNS server... >> 2. Manually configure each device to have a fixed IP. R. G. Newbury: > I think you left out a third method, which uses part of your

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-20 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2022-03-20 at 12:13 -0400, R. G. Newbury wrote: > 'Configuring the DHCP server to work that way', is to set it to > deliver a static address. With a dhcp server, the problem is that any > change in the network, or the items connecting to it, can cause the > dhcp server to deliver a differen

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 3/20/22 07:10, Tim via users wrote: Some of those protocols can have a look inside their own hosts file to find the answer (if they have one). However, that's going to go wrong if the devices don't get the same IP each time. Apparently mDNS can somehow get answers from a DHCP server. I'm no

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-20 Thread R. G. Newbury
On 2022-03-20 10:11 a.m., Tim wrote: If you want a predictable LAN, then I really only see two ways to manage that without major pain: 1. Run a DHCP server with a DNS server... 2. Manually configure each device to have a fixed IP. I think you left out a third method, which uses part of your

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-20 Thread R. G. Newbury
On 2022-03-20 8:00 a.m., Tim wrote R. G. Newbury wrote: Controlling an hdhr with a dhcp served IP address is basically impossible as it is hard to find that address and remember it for use in your program. Control of the unit with most digital tv programs requires a static IP address. Mythtv for

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-20 Thread R. G. Newbury
On 2022-03-20 8:00 a.m., Tim >R. G. Newbury wrote: edit your /etc/hosts file to give the hdhomerun unit a fixed IP address. When has the /etc/hosts file ever given anything an IP address? You are correct, and I am completely wrong. A static address for the computer would be set by editing /e

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-20 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2022-03-20 at 13:08 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I think Tim's point is that the /etc/hosts file doesn't *assign* IP > addresses, it merely *records* them. Yep. In a nutshell, if you haven't manually configured your PC (or other device) to use a specific IP address, your PC gets gi

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2022-03-20 at 08:50 -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote: > On Mar 20, 2022, at 04:17, Tim via users > wrote: > > > > When has the /etc/hosts file ever given anything an IP address? > > I don’t know the exact details of this particular problem, but if you > install the “dnsmasq” package, it in

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-20 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Mar 20, 2022, at 04:17, Tim via users wrote: > > When has the /etc/hosts file ever given anything an IP address? I don’t know the exact details of this particular problem, but if you install the “dnsmasq” package, it includes dns and dhcp service, and by default it parses /etc/hosts and use

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-20 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2022-03-20 at 00:01 -0400, R. G. Newbury wrote: > Controlling an hdhr with a dhcp served IP address is basically > impossible as it is hard to find that address and remember it for use > in your program. Control of the unit with most digital tv programs > requires a static IP address. Myth

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-20 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2022-03-19 at 23:44 -0400, R. G. Newbury wrote: > edit your /etc/hosts file to give the hdhomerun unit a fixed IP > address. When has the /etc/hosts file ever given anything an IP address? -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.59.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Feb 23 16:47:03 UTC 2022 x86_64 Bo

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-19 Thread R. G. Newbury
Geoffrey Leach wrote: It will take me a while to try to understand the output from your suggestions. In the meantime, yes, it is a direct cable to the hdhomerun. Then you will have to set a static IP address in your /etc/hosts file. There is some sort of NETGEAT unit listed in your output.

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-19 Thread R. G. Newbury
response to ping) The interface was configured with the NetworkManager app, that assigned the device eno1. eno1 is your internal network port. Not the hdhomerun unit. My hdhr units (I have 2 therefor 4 tuners) respond to ping. But it sounds like your computer does not know where the hdhr is (ie its

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-19 Thread Geoffrey Leach
Yes, it has worked on Fedora 32. The hardware is unchanged. I'll need to verify the dhcp server On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 18:09:30 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 3/19/22 17:41, Geoffrey Leach wrote: > > It will take me a while to try to understand the output from your > > suggestions. > > > > In the m

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-19 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 3/19/22 17:41, Geoffrey Leach wrote: It will take me a while to try to understand the output from your suggestions. In the meantime, yes, it is a direct cable to the hdhomerun. The simple answer is that won't work. Has this ever worked? You either need a dhcp server on your computer to p

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-19 Thread Geoffrey Leach
It will take me a while to try to understand the output from your suggestions. In the meantime, yes, it is a direct cable to the hdhomerun. On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 4:54 PM Roger Heflin wrote: > I am pretty sure the hdhomerun usually needs a dhcp server to get an ip > address. there may be some

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-19 Thread Roger Heflin
I am pretty sure the hdhomerun usually needs a dhcp server to get an ip address. there may be some default ip address. I don't see that my hdhomeruns have a way to set an ip address. If there is a default ip address then both the adapter and the hdhome run need to be in the same subnet, and netw

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-19 Thread Roger Heflin
ethtool -i eno1 ethtool eno1 will tell you what the connection status is. dmesg| grep -i eno1 will give you the init messages for the card. On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 6:19 PM Geoffrey Leach wrote: > F35, fresh install. I have an ethernet-connected device (HDHomerun, fwiw) > newly re-compiled on

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-19 Thread Geoffrey Leach
There is only one computer involved HDHomerun is a box that converts OTA TV channels (i.e., a tuner) to a feed that is accessed by the local system. What is working? the code that accesses the ethernet feed, as far as I can tell What isn't working? The connection between the local computer and t

Re: Help configuring internal network

2022-03-19 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 3/19/22 16:18, Geoffrey Leach wrote: F35, fresh install. I have an ethernet-connected device (HDHomerun, fwiw) newly re-compiled on the newly-installed F35 xfce4 workstation. As far as I can tell from trying every network analysis I can find, the connection is good (exception, no response to

Help configuring internal network

2022-03-19 Thread Geoffrey Leach
F35, fresh install. I have an ethernet-connected device (HDHomerun, fwiw) newly re-compiled on the newly-installed F35 xfce4 workstation. As far as I can tell from trying every network analysis I can find, the connection is good (exception, no response to ping) The interface was configured with the