btrfs with compression and apache certs?

2024-08-11 Thread mysqlstudent
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Re: Cloning a BTRFS filesystem

2024-07-29 Thread Barry
> On 27 Jul 2024, at 22:53, Cameron Simpson wrote: > > You could put a filesystem on a whole disc if you were happy to trash the > partition table (i.e. not have one at all). There are tools that depend on the GPT and the GUIDs describing partitions to automate file system discovery. With th

Re: Cloning a BTRFS filesystem

2024-07-29 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Jul 26, 2024, at 06:35, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2024-07-24 at 11:14 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> On Tue, 2024-07-23 at 20:44 -0700, Gregorio Gervasio Jr. wrote: >>> I just did this recently. I used "btrfs replace", whi

Re: Cloning a BTRFS filesystem

2024-07-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2024-07-28 at 06:12 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > I just ran 'dnf update' and am not seeing that. Perhaps it's in the > > test repo? > > It looks like it is in both stable and testing: > < > https://packages.fedoraproject.org/

Re: Cloning a BTRFS filesystem

2024-07-28 Thread Jeffrey Walton
sting SSD which > > > currently holds /, /home and a swapfile, all as subvolumes. I know > > > I > > > can do this using btrfs-send/receive, but only one subvolume at a > > > time > > > and with plenty of potential for fat-fingering it. > > > &

Re: Cloning a BTRFS filesystem

2024-07-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2024-07-28 at 03:09 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 7:25 AM Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > > > I have a new NVMe drive and want to clone my existing SSD which > > currently holds /, /home and a swapfile, all as subvolumes. I know >

Re: Cloning a BTRFS filesystem

2024-07-28 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 7:25 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I have a new NVMe drive and want to clone my existing SSD which > currently holds /, /home and a swapfile, all as subvolumes. I know I > can do this using btrfs-send/receive, but only one subvolume at a time >

Re: Cloning a BTRFS filesystem

2024-07-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2024-07-28 at 07:52 +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 27Jul2024 10:32, Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > On Fri, 2024-07-26 at 19:07 -0700, Gregorio Gervasio Jr. wrote: > > > It's not?  I had the same thing and just ran "btrfs replace" on > &g

Re: Cloning a BTRFS filesystem

2024-07-27 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 27Jul2024 10:32, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2024-07-26 at 19:07 -0700, Gregorio Gervasio Jr. wrote: It's not?  I had the same thing and just ran "btrfs replace" on each BTRFS partition. The man page refers explicitly to "device" and the examples I&

Re: Cloning a BTRFS filesystem

2024-07-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2024-07-26 at 19:07 -0700, Gregorio Gervasio Jr. wrote: > > > > > > Patrick O'Callaghan writes: > > > My mistake. btrfs-replace is for replacing a whole disk as part > > of a > > BTRFS filesystem. In my case I have a vfat EFI partition, an &g

Re: Cloning a BTRFS filesystem

2024-07-26 Thread Gregorio Gervasio Jr.
Patrick O'Callaghan writes: My mistake. btrfs-replace is for replacing a whole disk as part of a BTRFS filesystem. In my case I have a vfat EFI partition, an ext4 /boot partition, and a BTRFS root+/home partition, so btrfs-replace isn't going to do it. It's not? I had the

Re: Cloning a BTRFS filesystem

2024-07-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I'm slightly wary of clonezilla because multiple people seem to > > > > have had problems with it on BTRFS (may depend on the version). > > > > Also, > > > > btrfs-replace is built-in a

Re: Cloning a BTRFS filesystem

2024-07-26 Thread Jeffrey Walton
ecause multiple people seem to > > > have had problems with it on BTRFS (may depend on the version). > > > Also, > > > btrfs-replace is built-in and looks like it will do the job. > > > > > > There was a bug in btrfs support in one of the programs used

Re: Cloning a BTRFS filesystem

2024-07-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2024-07-26 at 17:47 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 7:14 AM Patrick O'Callaghan > > wrote: > > > I'm slightly wary of clonezilla because multiple people seem to > > have had problems with it on BTRFS (may depend on the versio

Re: Fedora and System Rescue CD disagree on the state of my btrfs filesystem

2024-07-26 Thread George N. White III
On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 2:31 PM Richard Shaw wrote: > It's an HP Envy Laptop, no ability to overclock. I did upgrade the memory > when I first got it over 3 years ago from 8GB to 16GB but it's plain > DDR4-3200. As I previously mentioned I let the HP diag tools run overnight > and completed 14 cy

Re: Cloning a BTRFS filesystem

2024-07-26 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 7:14 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I'm slightly wary of clonezilla because multiple people seem to > have had problems with it on BTRFS (may depend on the version). Also, > btrfs-replace is built-in and looks like it will do the job. There was a b

Re: Fedora and System Rescue CD disagree on the state of my btrfs filesystem

2024-07-26 Thread Roger Heflin
If it is only giving btrfs errors on 6. 9.x and not the rescue kernel and 6.8.x that would seem like a potential kernel bug. Run on 6.8.x and wait for say 6.10 would be best. On Fri, Jul 26, 2024, 12:31 PM Richard Shaw wrote: > On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 8:59 AM John Mellor wrote: > >

Re: Fedora and System Rescue CD disagree on the state of my btrfs filesystem

2024-07-26 Thread Richard Shaw
nything critical on it so I decided to just reinstall >> with Fedora 40. Installation went fine but I did notice weird dnf output on >> my first updated buy everything SEEMED fine... >> > >> > I rebooted after the update and tried to log in when after a minute or >&

Re: Fedora and System Rescue CD disagree on the state of my btrfs filesystem

2024-07-26 Thread John Mellor
weird dnf output on my first updated buy everything SEEMED fine... > > I rebooted after the update and tried to log in when after a minute or two the system froze. Rebooted and sure enough a `dmesg | grep BTRFS` showed an error. > > Back to booting with Syst

Re: Fedora and System Rescue CD disagree on the state of my btrfs filesystem

2024-07-26 Thread Richard Shaw
y everything SEEMED fine... > > > > I rebooted after the update and tried to log in when after a minute or > two the system froze. Rebooted and sure enough a `dmesg | grep BTRFS` > showed an error. > > > > Back to booting with System Rescue CD neither a `btrfs check > --ch

Re: Cloning a BTRFS filesystem

2024-07-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2024-07-24 at 11:14 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2024-07-23 at 20:44 -0700, Gregorio Gervasio Jr. wrote: > > > > I just did this recently.  I used "btrfs replace", which is part > > of > > btrfs-progs.  See "man btrfs-replace&

Re: Fedora and System Rescue CD disagree on the state of my btrfs filesystem

2024-07-25 Thread Jeffrey Walton
after a minute or two > the system froze. Rebooted and sure enough a `dmesg | grep BTRFS` showed an > error. > > Back to booting with System Rescue CD neither a `btrfs check > --check-data-csum` or after mounting, a `btrfs scrub` show any errors. > > So who's right? And

Re: Fedora and System Rescue CD disagree on the state of my btrfs filesystem

2024-07-25 Thread George N. White III
eadonly so I installed System Rescue CD to a > thumb drive to investigate. Sure enough I had 4 unrecoverable errors. > Compare btrfs mount options and btrfs-tools versions used by the two systems. Fedora Live USB installer images can be used for rescue, and should avoid problems with differen

Fedora and System Rescue CD disagree on the state of my btrfs filesystem

2024-07-25 Thread Richard Shaw
just reinstall with Fedora 40. Installation went fine but I did notice weird dnf output on my first updated buy everything SEEMED fine... I rebooted after the update and tried to log in when after a minute or two the system froze. Rebooted and sure enough a `dmesg | grep BTRFS` showed an error. Back to bo

Re: Cloning a BTRFS filesystem

2024-07-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2024-07-23 at 20:44 -0700, Gregorio Gervasio Jr. wrote: > > I just did this recently.  I used "btrfs replace", which is part > of > btrfs-progs.  See "man btrfs-replace" for details. > > It initially refused for one of my partitions (forgot the e

Re: Cloning a BTRFS filesystem

2024-07-23 Thread Gregorio Gervasio Jr.
I just did this recently. I used "btrfs replace", which is part of btrfs-progs. See "man btrfs-replace" for details. It initially refused for one of my partitions (forgot the exact error message) but it worked after

Re: BTRFS RAID Recommendations?

2024-07-23 Thread Richard Shaw
On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 11:46 AM Joe Wulf via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Richard, which edition of Fedora are you using, and what are the computer > spec's, including the disk drive controller on this computer. > Fedora 40 with a Ryzen 5 3600. Just using regular ole' SATA, no

Re: BTRFS RAID Recommendations?

2024-07-23 Thread Joe Wulf via users
Richard, which edition of Fedora are you using, and what are the computer spec's, including the disk drive controller on this computer.-Joe On Tuesday, July 23, 2024 at 12:26:33 PM EDT, Richard Shaw wrote: I have a home media library currently with 4x4TB drives currently in

BTRFS RAID Recommendations?

2024-07-23 Thread Richard Shaw
I have a home media library currently with 4x4TB drives currently in BTRFS RAID1. I recently discovered two things. 1. One of my harddrives is dying 2. That you can have separate RAID settings for metadata. So for the first I have purchased an 8TB CMR drive and plan to replace the others with

Re: Cloning a BTRFS filesystem

2024-07-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2024-07-23 at 07:30 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 7:25 AM Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > > > I have a new NVMe drive and want to clone my existing SSD which > > currently holds /, /home and a swapfile, all as subvolumes. I know >

Re: Cloning a BTRFS filesystem

2024-07-23 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 7:25 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I have a new NVMe drive and want to clone my existing SSD which > currently holds /, /home and a swapfile, all as subvolumes. I know I > can do this using btrfs-send/receive, but only one subvolume at a time >

Re: Cloning a BTRFS filesystem

2024-07-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2024-07-23 at 12:24 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I have a new NVMe drive and want to clone my existing SSD which > currently holds /, /home and a swapfile, all as subvolumes. I know I > can do this using btrfs-send/receive, but only one subvolume at a > time >

Cloning a BTRFS filesystem

2024-07-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
I have a new NVMe drive and want to clone my existing SSD which currently holds /, /home and a swapfile, all as subvolumes. I know I can do this using btrfs-send/receive, but only one subvolume at a time and with plenty of potential for fat-fingering it. Using dd is another option (the old and

Re: btrfs send command - why do I get these long times?

2024-06-09 Thread Philip Rhoades via users
George, On 2024-06-09 20:36, George N. White III wrote: On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 4:35 PM Philip Rhoades via users wrote: [...] What I don't understand is that when creating the snapshots originally, the time to create them is almost zero but when using btrfs send to the other partitio

Re: btrfs send command - why do I get these long times?

2024-06-09 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 4:35 PM Philip Rhoades via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > [...] > What I don't understand is that when creating the snapshots originally, > the time to create them is almost zero but when using btrfs send to the > other partition the

Re: BTRFS disk arrangement on new build. Cockpit says home var and root not mounted

2024-06-09 Thread Javier Perez
# After editing this file, run 'systemctl daemon-reload' to update systemd > # units generated from this file. > # > UUID=f487ad1f-706e-48ae-bf48-6250db089806 / btrfs > subvol=root,compress=zstd:1 0 0 > UUID=bdbee4ec-ad70-4099-bd9b-ae5fade659d7 /boot

BTRFS disk arrangement on new build. Cockpit says home var and root not mounted

2024-06-09 Thread Javier Perez
6e-48ae-bf48-6250db089806 / btrfs subvol=root,compress=zstd:1 0 0 UUID=bdbee4ec-ad70-4099-bd9b-ae5fade659d7 /boot ext4 defaults1 2 UUID=6685-48C2 /boot/efi vfat umask=0077,shortname=winnt 0 2 UUID=14b53d5c-55ac-476b-86eb-d775f3d27a28 /home

btrfs send command - why do I get these long times?

2024-06-08 Thread Philip Rhoades via users
People, For decades I have been using rsync for all my backup needs - but with F40 I finally made the break from extx to btrfs for my workstation which introduced me to the concept of btrfs subvolumes and the possibility of snapshots. Since subvolumes don't provide security if the

Re: Installed Rawhide with btrfs; dnf system update to v40 has errors ; re-install from Live USB without affecting a non-root subvolume?

2024-06-04 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024, at 3:42 PM, Philip Rhoades via users wrote: > So, if I try to reinstall from the current f40 live usb - can I do that > without touching the backup subvolume? ie: > > /dev/nvme0n1p3btrfs 1,951,850,496 464,659,184 1,486,438,224 > 24% / &

Re: Installed Rawhide with btrfs; dnf system update to v40 has errors ; re-install from Live USB without affecting a non-root subvolume?

2024-06-03 Thread Philip Rhoades via users
m problems, package conflicts, etc.? I think it will be too much to sort out the errors . . So, if I try to reinstall from the current f40 live usb - can I do that without touching the backup subvolume? ie: /dev/nvme0n1p3btrfs 1,951,850,496 464,659,184 1,486,438,224 24% / /dev/nvme0n1p

Re: Installed Rawhide with btrfs; dnf system update to v40 has errors ; re-install from Live USB without affecting a non-root subvolume?

2024-06-03 Thread George N. White III
rs you encounter. Are they filesystem problems, package conflicts, etc.? > > So, if I try to reinstall from the current f40 live usb - can I do that > without touching the backup subvolume? ie: > > /dev/nvme0n1p3btrfs 1,951,850,496 464,659,184 1,486,438,224 > 24% /

Installed Rawhide with btrfs; dnf system update to v40 has errors ; re-install from Live USB without affecting a non-root subvolume?

2024-06-03 Thread Philip Rhoades via users
get a lot of errors - trying to do "dnf --erase" the problem rpms ends up making the problem worse. So, if I try to reinstall from the current f40 live usb - can I do that without touching the backup subvolume? ie: /dev/nvme0n1p3btrfs 1,951,850,496 464,659,184 1,486,438

Re: Is this possible?: Convert /dev/sdd[1-5] Ext4 => /dev/sdd [btrfs - whole disk] - without losing data in sdd5 (old /home)

2023-12-19 Thread Bryan
ahh the blipvert! On 19/12/2023 11:50, Philip Rhoades via users wrote: People, I have been using Fedora since Core 1 and still have the old HDs and I have kept using ext[234] FSs just for simplicity / consistency up to the current time (F39) - but now I want to experiment with btrfs and I

Re: Is this possible?: Convert /dev/sdd[1-5] Ext4 => /dev/sdd [btrfs - whole disk] - without losing data in sdd5 (old /home)

2023-12-19 Thread George N. White III
) - but now I want to experiment with btrfs and I was > thinking I could go through the exercise of converting an old SATA boot > drive where I am still using /dev/sdd5 (the old /home partition) as one > of a few backup partitions / drives for current live data from my > workstation and

Is this possible?: Convert /dev/sdd[1-5] Ext4 => /dev/sdd [btrfs - whole disk] - without losing data in sdd5 (old /home)

2023-12-19 Thread Philip Rhoades via users
People, I have been using Fedora since Core 1 and still have the old HDs and I have kept using ext[234] FSs just for simplicity / consistency up to the current time (F39) - but now I want to experiment with btrfs and I was thinking I could go through the exercise of converting an old SATA

Re: btrfs Backups

2023-12-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2023-12-09 at 11:26 -0500, Tim Evans wrote: > I mentioned 'rsnapshot' in a previous reply.  While this has similar > snaoshotting capabilities, it's a very old package that doesn't have > a > GUI and--most importantly--doesn't incorporate recovery of backed-up > files; 'backintime' has b

Re: btrfs Backups

2023-12-09 Thread Tim Evans
sh install using btrfs filesystems, I find 'dump' does not work on them. (Fortunately, I was able to use the companion utility 'restore' to recover my /home backups and assorted config files from the root filesystem of my old laptop.) So, I'm looking re-script my bac

Re: btrfs Backups

2023-12-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
gt; > Now, with a brand new laptop, with fresh install using btrfs > filesystems, I find 'dump' does not work on them. (Fortunately, I was > able to use the companion utility 'restore' to recover my /home > backups > and assorted config files from the root filesyst

Re: btrfs Backups

2023-12-08 Thread Richard England
On 12/8/23 12:12, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/08/2023 12:51 PM, Tim Evans wrote: Thanks, Roger.  Actually, I have a dim recollection of having set up a thing called 'rnsapshot' to a NAS appliance for a client some years ago.   Nothing to do with btrfs filesystems, but IIRC this shoul

Re: btrfs Backups

2023-12-08 Thread Richard England
On 12/8/23 12:25, Richard England wrote: On 12/8/23 12:12, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/08/2023 12:51 PM, Tim Evans wrote: Thanks, Roger.  Actually, I have a dim recollection of having set up a thing called 'rnsapshot' to a NAS appliance for a client some years ago.   Nothing to do

Re: btrfs Backups

2023-12-08 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/08/2023 12:51 PM, Tim Evans wrote: Thanks, Roger.  Actually, I have a dim recollection of having set up a thing called 'rnsapshot' to a NAS appliance for a client some years ago.  Nothing to do with btrfs filesystems, but IIRC this should be just what I need.  Thanks for ref

Re: btrfs Backups

2023-12-08 Thread Tim Evans
On 12/8/23 13:18, John Mellor wrote: btrfs send?  Its very similar in operation to zfs send on Solaris and Freebsd.  The data stream can be pushed over ssh to another machine running btrfs receive pretty easily.  Maybe follow https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/btrfs-create-snapshot-and

Re: btrfs Backups

2023-12-08 Thread Tim Evans
' to a NAS appliance for a client some years ago. Nothing to do with btrfs filesystems, but IIRC this should be just what I need. Thanks for refreshing my memory. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an em

Re: btrfs Backups

2023-12-08 Thread John Mellor
with fresh install using btrfs filesystems, I find 'dump' does not work on them. (Fortunately, I was able to use the companion utility 'restore' to recover my /home backups and assorted config files from the root filesystem of my old laptop.) So, I'm looking re-script my bac

Re: btrfs Backups

2023-12-08 Thread Roger Heflin
dump' utility to do automated full and incremental > backups to an NFS-mounted network storage appliance (NAS). > > Now, with a brand new laptop, with fresh install using btrfs > filesystems, I find 'dump' does not work on them. (Fortunately, I was > able to use the co

btrfs Backups

2023-12-08 Thread Tim Evans
Since tine immemorial (I first touched a UNIX system circa 1984), I have used the venerable 'dump' utility to do automated full and incremental backups to an NFS-mounted network storage appliance (NAS). Now, with a brand new laptop, with fresh install using btrfs filesystems, I

Re: Disable btrfs memory swap file

2023-06-27 Thread Todd Zullinger
Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 6/26/23 20:48, Jeffrey Walton wrote: >> Hi Everyone, >> >> I've got a Fedora 38 install (upgrade from F37). The install happened >> with Anaconda. Anaconda created the compressed memory swap file. I >> resized the disk and added a proper swap partition. Now I need to >> mod

Re: Disable btrfs memory swap file

2023-06-27 Thread Neal Becker
t; resized the disk and added a proper swap partition. Now I need to > > modify /etc/fstab and disable the compressed memory swap file. In the > > screen text below, /dev/nvme0n1p4 is the new partition. > > > > What does this have to do with BTRFS? The compressed memory swap

Re: Disable btrfs memory swap file

2023-06-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
fstab and disable the compressed memory swap file. In the > screen text below, /dev/nvme0n1p4 is the new partition. > What does this have to do with BTRFS? The compressed memory swap file is present in Fedora, no matter what filesystem you use. man zramctl poc __

Re: Disable btrfs memory swap file

2023-06-27 Thread Samuel Sieb
ay. I cannot find a discussion of it. How do I modify fstab to remove the compressed memory swap file? Why would you want to? The compiler is crashing in cc1plus. I'm out-of-memory on a machine with 16GB of RAM. Effectively I'm DoS'd with the btrfs default strategy. Time to do

Re: Disable btrfs memory swap file

2023-06-27 Thread Jeffrey Walton
e > >>> screen text below, /dev/nvme0n1p4 is the new partition. > >>> > >>> My Google-fu really sucks today. I cannot find a discussion of it. > >>> > >>> How do I modify fstab to remove the compressed memory swap file? > >> > &

Re: Disable btrfs memory swap file

2023-06-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
swap file? Why would you want to? The compiler is crashing in cc1plus. I'm out-of-memory on a machine with 16GB of RAM. Effectively I'm DoS'd with the btrfs default strategy. Time to do something different... like get rid of that compressed swap file in RAM, use a real swap file

Re: Disable btrfs memory swap file

2023-06-26 Thread Jeffrey Walton
t; > How do I modify fstab to remove the compressed memory swap file? > > Why would you want to? The compiler is crashing in cc1plus. I'm out-of-memory on a machine with 16GB of RAM. Effectively I'm DoS'd with the btrfs default strategy. Time to do something different..

Re: Disable btrfs memory swap file

2023-06-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 6/26/23 20:48, Jeffrey Walton wrote: Hi Everyone, I've got a Fedora 38 install (upgrade from F37). The install happened with Anaconda. Anaconda created the compressed memory swap file. I resized the disk and added a proper swap partition. Now I need to modify /etc/fstab and disable the compre

Disable btrfs memory swap file

2023-06-26 Thread Jeffrey Walton
live" UUID="c9556f10-0bc7-4018-829f-7a892300b2e0" UUID_SUB="12db21cb-7e46-4878-a52f-4a8be1e29525" BLOCK_SIZE="4096" TYPE="btrfs" PARTLABEL="fedora" PARTUUID="6513b9de-51e5-4714-942f-2d2c315f3a3c" /dev/nvme0n1p1: UUID="B78D-F611&q

Re: Converting ext4 to btrfs

2023-05-03 Thread Paul Smith
o after adding compression to fstab (and > reboot), you might want to run a defragmentation `sudo btrfs filesystem > defragment -r `. > > There was a recent article about that too: > https://fedoramagazine.org/working-with-btrfs-compression/ > > --- > Best regard

Re: Converting ext4 to btrfs

2023-05-02 Thread Alex Gurenko via users
I've forgot to add, that for compression, this, again, works only for newly created/accesses files only, so after adding compression to fstab (and reboot), you might want to run a defragmentation `sudo btrfs filesystem defragment -r `. There was a recent article about that too:

Re: Converting ext4 to btrfs

2023-05-02 Thread Alex Gurenko via users
There was an article back in the days of btrfs introduction that described the process: https://fedoramagazine.org/convert-your-filesystem-to-btrfs/ I've used it myself without any issues back then, I would assume it's still safe to do so now. I ran it like this for a few more releas

Converting ext4 to btrfs

2023-05-02 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All, I have always upgraded Fedora from the previously installed version. Consequently, I still have ext4. To have btrfs, is it needed to do a Fedora clean install? Thanks in advance, Paul ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: is cockpit able to handle btrfs mirror's ?

2023-03-14 Thread old sixpack13
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023, at 1:57 PM, old sixpack13 wrote: > > This is expected behavior right now (certainly not expected by a reasonable > user) from a ... Thanks ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: is cockpit able to handle btrfs mirror's ?

2023-03-14 Thread Chris Murphy
opment perspective. There's a similar effect with multiple device Btrfs in KDE and GNOME, so it's not a Cockpit issue. https://github.com/storaged-project/udisks/issues/802 -- Chris Murphy ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.or

is cockpit able to handle btrfs mirror's ?

2023-03-10 Thread old sixpack13
more to read: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/MNAGV2XFQOLXQAXGP2CBHOQRGVYDXD2O/ ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: dnf needs-restarting/tracer (was: Re: Taking better advantage of BTRFS)

2023-02-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2023-02-26 at 11:24 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sat, 2023-02-25 at 15:43 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > > > On 2/25/23 14:58, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > Now part of the python3-dnf-plugins-core package so you > > > > don't need a separate command. With

dnf needs-restarting/tracer (was: Re: Taking better advantage of BTRFS)

2023-02-26 Thread Todd Zullinger
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2023-02-25 at 15:43 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 2/25/23 14:58, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> Now part of the python3-dnf-plugins-core package so you >>> don't need a separate command. With the plugin installed >>> it just runs automatically. >> >> So when you

Re: Taking better advantage of BTRFS

2023-02-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2023-02-25 at 15:43 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 2/25/23 14:58, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Now part of the python3-dnf-plugins-core package so you don't need > > a > > separate command. With the plugin installed it just runs > > automatically. > > So when you use dnf upgrade, it  also t

Re: Taking better advantage of BTRFS

2023-02-25 Thread Neal Becker
snapper (I believe this is suse's tool) can be installed on Fedora. Unfortunately it takes a little extra work to setup the subvolumes correctly. I found an article (on reddit?) and mine are setup as: sudo btrfs subvolume list / ID 256 gen 149284 top level 5 path root ID 257 gen 149284 top

Re: Taking better advantage of BTRFS

2023-02-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 2/25/23 14:58, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Now part of the python3-dnf-plugins-core package so you don't need a separate command. With the plugin installed it just runs automatically. So when you use dnf upgrade, it also tells you what needs restarting? Cool! __

Re: Taking better advantage of BTRFS

2023-02-25 Thread Barry
> On 25 Feb 2023, at 22:00, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sat, 2023-02-25 at 12:53 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: >>> On 2/25/23 11:20, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >>> If you really don't like it you can choose to just apply updates >>> with >>> dnf directly/live. Of course you will then be responsible for

Re: Taking better advantage of BTRFS

2023-02-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2023-02-25 at 12:53 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 2/25/23 11:20, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > If you really don't like it you can choose to just apply updates > > with > > dnf directly/live. Of course you will then be responsible for > > restarting > > everything that needs to be and deal with issu

Re: Taking better advantage of BTRFS

2023-02-25 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, Feb 25, 2023 at 12:53:59PM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 2/25/23 11:20, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > If you really don't like it you can choose to just apply updates with > > dnf directly/live. Of course you will then be responsible for restarting > > everything that needs to be and deal with issue

Re: Taking better advantage of BTRFS

2023-02-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 2/25/23 11:20, Kevin Fenzi wrote: If you really don't like it you can choose to just apply updates with dnf directly/live. Of course you will then be responsible for restarting everything that needs to be and deal with issues with running applications that have issues with being updated in thi

Re: Taking better advantage of BTRFS

2023-02-25 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 09:31:22AM -0500, John Mellor wrote: > Ok, I'm anticipating a firestorm of BS responses on this, but here goes > anyway. > > We've now had BTRFS as the default filesystem for some time in Fedora.  > However, there has been almost nothing done

Re: Taking better advantage of BTRFS

2023-02-24 Thread Go Canes
[quoting is a bit improper here - I have tried to fix it where I noticed] On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 4:15 PM John Mellor wrote: >> and Go Canes replied > At this point, I doubt that EXT2 is better debugged than BTRFS, and its use > has a number of detrimental effects. For one, it r

Re: Taking better advantage of BTRFS

2023-02-24 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Feb 24, 2023, at 09:31, John Mellor wrote: > > Ok, I'm anticipating a firestorm of BS responses on this, but here goes > anyway. Nice. So you can casually disregard any comment right away. Clever. > We've now had BTRFS as the default filesystem for some time in Fedo

Re: Taking better advantage of BTRFS

2023-02-24 Thread John Mellor
use BTRFS for years now. /boot is critical and using a well debugged file system for it to me seems like an excellent idea. But if you want yours on btrfs, by all means put yours there. At this point, I doubt that EXT2 is better debugged than BTRFS, and its use has a number of detrimental effects

Re: Taking better advantage of BTRFS

2023-02-24 Thread Bill Cunningham
On 2/24/2023 3:28 PM, John Mellor wrote: On 2023-02-24 12:46 p.m., GianPiero Puccioni wrote: On 24/02/2023 15:31, John Mellor wrote: Ok, I'm anticipating a firestorm of BS responses on this, but here goes anyway. We've now had BTRFS as the default filesystem for some time in Fedor

Re: Taking better advantage of BTRFS

2023-02-24 Thread John Mellor
On 2023-02-24 12:46 p.m., GianPiero Puccioni wrote: On 24/02/2023 15:31, John Mellor wrote: Ok, I'm anticipating a firestorm of BS responses on this, but here goes anyway. We've now had BTRFS as the default filesystem for some time in Fedora. However, there has been almost nothi

Re: Taking better advantage of BTRFS

2023-02-24 Thread GianPiero Puccioni
On 24/02/2023 15:31, John Mellor wrote: Ok, I'm anticipating a firestorm of BS responses on this, but here goes anyway. We've now had BTRFS as the default filesystem for some time in Fedora. However, there has been almost nothing done to take advantage of its capabilities. Personall

Re: Taking better advantage of BTRFS

2023-02-24 Thread Richard Shaw
On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 8:31 AM John Mellor wrote: > 6) Compression is not the default. Why not? SSDs are 10x slower and > disks are 100x slower than the processors of even 10 years ago, so this > omission is slowing the system down. > I thought zstd level 1 was the default for SSDs and level

Re: Taking better advantage of BTRFS

2023-02-24 Thread Bill C
I believe LSB calls for the eventual migration to btrfs as default filesystem. For Linux in general from ext. On Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 12:18 PM John Mellor wrote: > On Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 9:31 AM John Mellor wrote: > > . . . (snipped) > > 1) When are we going to see removal of

Re: Taking better advantage of BTRFS

2023-02-24 Thread Go Canes
On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 9:31 AM John Mellor wrote: > 1) When are we going to see removal of the EXT2 /boot partition? It is > no longer required, as the boot process has been able to use BTRFS for > years now. /boot is critical and using a well debugged file system for it to me seem

Re: Taking better advantage of BTRFS

2023-02-24 Thread John Mellor
On Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 9:31 AM John Mellor wrote: . . . (snipped) 1) When are we going to see removal of the EXT2 /boot partition? It is no longer required, as the boot process has been able to use BTRFS for years now. . . . (snipped) On 2023-02-24 09:38, Bill C wrote

Re: Taking better advantage of BTRFS

2023-02-24 Thread Bill C
Ending of ext? Hopefully never. They are like the fats, old reliable, and over course featureless or simple imo. On Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 9:31 AM John Mellor wrote: > Ok, I'm anticipating a firestorm of BS responses on this, but here goes > anyway. > > We've now had BTRFS as

Taking better advantage of BTRFS

2023-02-24 Thread John Mellor
Ok, I'm anticipating a firestorm of BS responses on this, but here goes anyway. We've now had BTRFS as the default filesystem for some time in Fedora.  However, there has been almost nothing done to take advantage of its capabilities.  This leads to some obvious questions about f

Re: Adding file swap on btrfs

2022-12-23 Thread Chris Murphy
FWIW there are some fixes and enhancements coming in btrfs-progs 6.1, now in koji for Rawhide, including making it easier to get info about hibernation file offset in a swapfile. I haven't messed with the new subcommand, but I personally prefer putting swapfiles in their own subvolume so

Re: Adding file swap on btrfs

2022-12-19 Thread Barry
s on HDD or SSD is far worse then using the zswap in almost all desktop workloads. My advice is to not bother adding a swap file, you are very unlikely to ever need it. Barry > After a bit of reading I found > sudo btrfs filesystem mkswapfile -s 32G /swapfile > But: > sudo swapon

Re: Adding file swap on btrfs

2022-12-19 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/19/22 12:19, Jonathan Billings wrote: On Dec 19, 2022, at 15:10, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/19/22 11:58, Neal Becker wrote: I've just installed f37 on a new lenovo x1 carbon. One thing, the installation didn't setup any swap (other than zswap). After a bit of reading I found

Re: Adding file swap on btrfs

2022-12-19 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Dec 19, 2022, at 15:10, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 12/19/22 11:58, Neal Becker wrote: >> I've just installed f37 on a new lenovo x1 carbon. >> One thing, the installation didn't setup any swap (other than zswap). >> After a bit of reading I found >>

Re: Adding file swap on btrfs

2022-12-19 Thread Samuel Sieb
ny swap (other than zswap). > > After a bit of reading I found > sudo btrfs filesystem mkswapfile -s 32G /swapfile > But: >   sudo swapon -v /swapfile > swapon: /swapfile: found signature [pagesize=4096, signature=swap] > swapon: /swapfile: p

Re: Adding file swap on btrfs

2022-12-19 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 2:10 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 12/19/22 11:58, Neal Becker wrote: > > I've just installed f37 on a new lenovo x1 carbon. > > One thing, the installation didn't setup any swap (other than zswap). > > > > After a bit of reading I found

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