On Sat, 2023-02-25 at 12:53 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 2/25/23 11:20, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > If you really don't like it you can choose to just apply updates
> > with
> > dnf directly/live. Of course you will then be responsible for
> > restarting
> > everything that needs to be and deal with issues with running
> > applications that have issues with being updated in this manner.
> 
> Not exactly difficult.  Obviously, if the kernel's been upgraded, you
> need to restart to get it running.  Otherwise, you run
> 
> sudo dnf needs-restarting
> 
> to find out what, if any, programs need to be restarted.  (If you
> don't 
> have it installed, you can get it by installing dnf-utils.)

Now part of the python3-dnf-plugins-core package so you don't need a
separate command. With the plugin installed it just runs automatically.

> Most of the 
> time, either nothing needs restarting, or there are one or two
> programs 
> you'll need to exit and restart on your own.  Occasionally, you may
> need 
>   to log out and log back in, but having to reboot for anything less 
> than a kernel is fairly rare.  HTH,  HAND.

My only quibble is that it sometimes tells you (correctly) to restart
something where it's not obvious how to do this other than logging out
and in again, e.g. pipewire-media-session. If the plugin were better
informed about this kind of component it would be more user-friendly.

poc
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