Re: experimental jit support in python 3.13?

2025-01-11 Thread Neal Becker
On Sat, Jan 11, 2025 at 3:53 PM Jonathan via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > No experimental features should ever be enabled by default on compilers or > interpreters. That's asking for trouble.-- > I believe if they are enabled at compile time but disabled at runtime, I don't see

Re: experimental jit support in python 3.13?

2025-01-11 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Jan 11, 2025 at 10:50 AM Todd Zullinger wrote: > > Neal Becker wrote: > > Thanks, but just to verify I asked chatgpt how to tell if it was enabled at > > compile time and it suggested: > > import sysconfig > > print(sysconfig.get_config_var("WITH_EXPERIMENTAL_FOO")) > > which prints "None

Re: experimental jit support in python 3.13?

2025-01-11 Thread Jonathan via users
No experimental features should ever be enabled by default on compilers or interpreters. That's asking for trouble. On 1/10/25 6:37 PM, Neal Becker wrote: > I believe experimental jit support in python 3.13 needs to be enabled both at > compile time and at runtime. Does Fedora&#

Re: experimental jit support in python 3.13?

2025-01-11 Thread Todd Zullinger
Neal Becker wrote: > Thanks, but just to verify I asked chatgpt how to tell if it was enabled at > compile time and it suggested: > import sysconfig > print(sysconfig.get_config_var("WITH_EXPERIMENTAL_FOO")) > which prints "None". I guess if I needed any more confirmation that things like ChatGPT

Re: experimental jit support in python 3.13?

2025-01-11 Thread Will McDonald
port sysconfig > print(sysconfig.get_config_var("WITH_EXPERIMENTAL_JIT")) > which prints "None". > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 11:39 PM Todd Zullinger wrote: > >> Neal Becker wrote: >> > I believe experimental jit support in python 3.13 needs to >> >

Re: experimental jit support in python 3.13?

2025-01-11 Thread Neal Becker
er wrote: > > I believe experimental jit support in python 3.13 needs to > > be enabled both at compile time and at runtime. Does > > Fedora's python3.13 have this enabled? > > Knowing nothing about this, I searched the fine web and > checked the Python 3.13 release no

Re: experimental jit support in python 3.13?

2025-01-10 Thread Todd Zullinger
Neal Becker wrote: > I believe experimental jit support in python 3.13 needs to > be enabled both at compile time and at runtime. Does > Fedora's python3.13 have this enabled? Knowing nothing about this, I searched the fine web and checked the Python 3.13 release notes which explai

experimental jit support in python 3.13?

2025-01-10 Thread Neal Becker
I believe experimental jit support in python 3.13 needs to be enabled both at compile time and at runtime. Does Fedora's python3.13 have this enabled? Thanks, Neal -- *Those who don't understand recursion are doomed to repeat it* -- ___

Re: Does Dragon Player support MP4 on Fedora?

2024-11-21 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 5:06 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Thu, 2024-11-21 at 02:29 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I have an MP4 clip that I am trying to watch on F41. When I double > > click the MP4, Dragon Player opens with two buttons: Play File and > > Play Stream

Re: Does Dragon Player support MP4 on Fedora?

2024-11-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2024-11-21 at 02:29 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I have an MP4 clip that I am trying to watch on F41. When I double > click the MP4, Dragon Player opens with two buttons: Play File and > Play Stream. (It does not show the MP4 that caused Dragon Player to > launch). I can

Does Dragon Player support MP4 on Fedora?

2024-11-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
Hi Everyone, I have an MP4 clip that I am trying to watch on F41. When I double click the MP4, Dragon Player opens with two buttons: Play File and Play Stream. (It does not show the MP4 that caused Dragon Player to launch). I cannot seem to get the MP4 to play, even if I select Play File and brows

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-11-13 Thread Stephen Morris
On 13/11/24 19:31, Barry wrote: On 12 Nov 2024, at 21:50, Stephen Morris wrote: I suspect Xorg as I don't like Wayland because it has never worked properly with KDE I have been running kde under wayland for a while now. I had to tweak my editor to have it pop to the top of the window stack,

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-11-13 Thread Barry
> On 12 Nov 2024, at 21:50, Stephen Morris wrote: > > I suspect Xorg as I don't like Wayland because it has never worked properly > with KDE I have been running kde under wayland for a while now. I had to tweak my editor to have it pop to the top of the window stack, but otherwise things just

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-11-12 Thread Stephen Morris
On 12/11/24 19:43, Barry wrote: On 11 Nov 2024, at 22:08, Stephen Morris wrote: I know we have touched on this before, if kscreen-doctor can determine that HDR is enabled on the monitor, but the KDE settings don't show the HDR interface, is it really non-standard hardware interfaces or is it

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-11-12 Thread Barry
> On 11 Nov 2024, at 22:08, Stephen Morris wrote: > > I know we have touched on this before, if kscreen-doctor can determine that > HDR is enabled on the monitor, but the KDE settings don't show the HDR > interface, is it really non-standard hardware interfaces or is it a defect in > the KDE

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-11-11 Thread Stephen Morris
On 12/11/24 08:29, Barry wrote: On 11 Nov 2024, at 21:14, Stephen Morris wrote: Just one query on this, how do we know if the command did anything if HDR was already flagged as enabled? What I did was use kscreen-doctor to query the state. It said hdr disabled. I used the command to enabled.

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-11-11 Thread Barry
> On 11 Nov 2024, at 21:14, Stephen Morris wrote: > > Just one query on this, how do we know if the command did anything if HDR was > already flagged as enabled? What I did was use kscreen-doctor to query the state. It said hdr disabled. I used the command to enabled. I repeated the query, it

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-11-11 Thread Stephen Morris
On 11/11/24 21:07, Barry Scott wrote: On 11 Nov 2024, at 02:28, Samuel Sieb wrote: I don't know if that's a permanent setting, but either way, it's only for the current user. In my testing it was permanent, at least it survived a reboot. I did not do a full cold boot. Just one query on th

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-11-11 Thread Barry Scott
> On 11 Nov 2024, at 02:28, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > I don't know if that's a permanent setting, but either way, it's only for the > current user. In my testing it was permanent, at least it survived a reboot. I did not do a full cold boot. Barry -- __

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-11-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/10/24 2:03 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 10/11/24 10:06, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/9/24 2:43 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 10/11/24 04:41, Barry Scott wrote: On 8 Nov 2024, at 22:59, Stephen Morris wrote: Just as a matter of interest what brand monitor do you use. I use a Dell Ultra

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-11-10 Thread Stephen Morris
On 10/11/24 13:46, Tim via users wrote: On Sun, 2024-11-10 at 01:29 +, Steve Underwood wrote: I don't think anyone has mentioned which graphics hardware they are using. I'm not sure the HDR support is equal amongst them. As someone who's worked in video production since

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-11-10 Thread Stephen Morris
e has mentioned which graphics hardware they are using. I'm not sure the HDR support is equal amongst them. I'm using an nvidia RTX3080 card with 12GB of memory, which is more than capable of supporting HDR. When I was doing a search for Linux/Fedora compatible HDR monitors I found a pag

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-11-10 Thread Stephen Morris
On 10/11/24 10:06, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/9/24 2:43 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 10/11/24 04:41, Barry Scott wrote: On 8 Nov 2024, at 22:59, Stephen Morris wrote: Just as a matter of interest what brand monitor do you use. I use a Dell Ultra HDR and also have a LG HDR monitor. The Del

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-11-09 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2024-11-10 at 01:29 +, Steve Underwood wrote: > I don't think anyone has mentioned which graphics hardware they are > using. I'm not sure the HDR support is equal amongst them. As someone who's worked in video production since the 1980s, I've tried it o

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-11-09 Thread Steve Underwood
are using. I'm not sure the HDR support is equal amongst them. Regards, Steve -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-11-09 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/9/24 2:43 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 10/11/24 04:41, Barry Scott wrote: On 8 Nov 2024, at 22:59, Stephen Morris wrote: Just as a matter of interest what brand monitor do you use. I use a Dell Ultra HDR and also have a LG HDR monitor. The Dell has the HDR checkbox in the Display S

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-11-09 Thread Stephen Morris
BenQ because I was looking for a 4K monitor and it was cheaper that other monitors the store had and the display was better than the other monitors the store had available, the HDR was a bonus. With auto-HDR turned on in the windows display settings in windows 11, and having apps that support HD

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-11-09 Thread Barry Scott
> On 8 Nov 2024, at 22:59, Stephen Morris wrote: > > Just as a matter of interest what brand monitor do you use. I use a Dell Ultra HDR and also have a LG HDR monitor. The Dell has the HDR checkbox in the Display Settings. But the LG needed me to enable HDR using the kscreen-doctor command.

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-11-08 Thread Stephen Morris
adds a way to support that to linux I do not think HDR will work. Thanks Barry, that is what I was afraid of, so the best I can hope for is the monitor emulating HDR as it appears to be doing now after I changed the terminal settings in its hardware configuration, pressing the HDR button on the

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-11-06 Thread Stephen Morris
On 6/11/24 20:40, Barry Scott wrote: On 5 Nov 2024, at 22:10, Stephen Morris wrote: In my case I need a BENQ EL2870U driver to get HDR enabled in Windows. That would indicate they have a non-standard implementation in the monitor. Unless someone adds a way to support that to linux I do

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-11-06 Thread Barry Scott
> On 5 Nov 2024, at 22:10, Stephen Morris wrote: > > In my case I need a BENQ EL2870U driver to get HDR enabled in Windows. That would indicate they have a non-standard implementation in the monitor. Unless someone adds a way to support that to linux I do not think HDR will wor

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-11-05 Thread Stephen Morris
On 16/10/24 20:51, Barry Scott wrote: Do you use the monitor with windows and if so does it need a monitor specific driver to activate HDR in Windows or does it work with the Generic driver? In my case I need a BENQ EL2870U driver to get HDR enabled in Windows. What is the EDID for your moni

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-10-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2024-10-16 at 22:39 +0100, Barry wrote: > > > On 16 Oct 2024, at 17:32, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > Or (once again) the Fedora KDE mailing list. > > I left that list off on the basis that I do not think any one with knowledge > of hdr read that email list. I'd call that a stran

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-10-16 Thread Barry
> On 16 Oct 2024, at 17:32, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Or (once again) the Fedora KDE mailing list. I left that list off on the basis that I do not think any one with knowledge of hdr read that email list. Barry -- ___ users mailing list --

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-10-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2024-10-16 at 14:45 +0100, Barry Scott wrote: > You could use the kde bug tracker https://bugs.kde.org/ or the kde discuss > forum https://discuss.kde.org Or (once again) the Fedora KDE mailing list. poc -- ___ users mailing list -- users@list

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-10-16 Thread Barry Scott
R luminance range > SMPTE ST2084 >Supported static metadata descriptors: > Static metadata type 1 >Desired content max luminance: 90 (351.250 cd/m^2) >Desired content max frame-average luminance: 83 (301.833 cd/m^2) > Desired content min luminance

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-10-16 Thread Stephen Morris via users
On 16/10/24 20:51, Barry Scott wrote: On 15 Oct 2024, at 11:44, Barry Scott wrote: When I get a moment o investigate I will have a look at EDID and see if there is where the HDR info if returned from the monitor. I have not looked at that level of details yet, so things to learn about. I

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-10-16 Thread Barry Scott
> On 15 Oct 2024, at 11:44, Barry Scott wrote: > > When I get a moment o investigate I will have a look at EDID and see if there > is where the HDR > info if returned from the monitor. I have not looked at that level of details > yet, so things to learn about. I think I have found the HDR se

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-10-15 Thread Barry Scott
> On 15 Oct 2024, at 08:45, Stephen Morris wrote: > > I'm not disconnecting from the mains. My computer power supply and > motherboard do trickle feed power, at least enough power to drive the mouse > and blueray usb device I have connected. The test I'm suggesting required your unplug from

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-10-15 Thread Stephen Morris via users
On 15/10/24 16:32, Barry wrote: On 14 Oct 2024, at 23:01, Stephen Morris via users wrote: power off my computer and monitor every night and every morning, Just to check you unplug from the mains? If you leave the computer and monitor plugged it will not fully reset. I'm not disconnecting fr

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-10-14 Thread Barry
> On 14 Oct 2024, at 23:01, Stephen Morris via users > wrote: > > power off my computer and monitor every night and every morning, Just to check you unplug from the mains? If you leave the computer and monitor plugged it will not fully reset. Barry --

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-10-14 Thread Barry
> On 14 Oct 2024, at 23:01, Stephen Morris wrote: > > I'll need to see if I can get KDE with Xorg working again too, to see if that > makes a difference. That is unlikely. I expect the issue is between the monitor and the kernel. Does Xorg even have hdr support? I

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-10-14 Thread Stephen Morris via users
tings, and with "Auto HDR" set when I go into games that support HDR I get a message that because of "Auto HDR" the game is activating HDR. Now we know why you see no hdr enable button. I would suspect an issue with the monitor firmware as one possible cause. One thing worth do

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-10-14 Thread Barry
, and with "Auto HDR" set > when I go into games that support HDR I get a message that because of "Auto > HDR" the game is activating HDR. Now we know why you see no hdr enable button. I would suspect an issue with the monitor firmware as one possible cause. One thing wort

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-10-14 Thread Stephen Morris via users
ill be "incapable" is HDR is not possible and "Disabled" is you can turn it on. Thanks Barry. I issued the kscreen-doctor -o command and the HDR line in the output specifies "Incapable". Why is this the case when a boot into Windows activates HDR as specified in the

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-10-14 Thread Barry Scott
> On 14 Oct 2024, at 09:27, Stephen Morris via users > wrote: > > I did a search for HDR/hdr in "System Settings" under Ubuntu which pointed my > at the Display Configuration but there isn't any settings for HDR on that > page. What I see is a search for "hdr" takes me to Display & Monitor/

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-10-14 Thread Stephen Morris via users
support for HDR, but even though my monitor is HDR there are no HDR settings in KDE System Settings. Under Gnome with Wayland there are HDR settings. Is anyone else seeing the same issue? I have dell monitor with hdr and plasma 6.2 allowed me to turn on hdr support. I think i searched for “hdr” is

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-10-14 Thread Stephen Morris via users
On 14/10/24 09:29, Barry wrote: On 13 Oct 2024, at 01:37, Stephen Morris via users wrote: HI, With the last system update I put on (yesterday) I have been upgraded to Plasma 6.2. One of the enhancements in this version was more support for HDR, but even though my monitor is HDR

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-10-13 Thread Barry
> On 13 Oct 2024, at 01:37, Stephen Morris via users > wrote: > > HI, > With the last system update I put on (yesterday) I have been upgraded to > Plasma 6.2. One of the enhancements in this version was more support for HDR, > but even though my monitor is HDR ther

Re: HDR Support in KDE

2024-10-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2024-10-13 at 11:37 +1100, Stephen Morris via users wrote: > HI, >     With the last system update I put on (yesterday) I have been > upgraded to Plasma 6.2. One of the enhancements in this version was more > support for HDR, but even though my monitor is HDR ther

HDR Support in KDE

2024-10-12 Thread Stephen Morris via users
HI,     With the last system update I put on (yesterday) I have been upgraded to Plasma 6.2. One of the enhancements in this version was more support for HDR, but even though my monitor is HDR there are no HDR settings in KDE System Settings. Under Gnome with Wayland there are HDR settings

Re: This OS version ... dracut (Init ramfs) is past its end-of-support date

2024-05-20 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 09:42:46PM GMT, Barry Scott wrote: > > > > On 19 May 2024, at 15:58, Frédéric wrote: > > > > Is it because F38 is past end of support or is it just related to dracut? > > You can query the EOL date like this: > > $ host

Re: This OS version ... dracut (Init ramfs) is past its end-of-support date

2024-05-19 Thread Barry Scott
> On 19 May 2024, at 15:58, Frédéric wrote: > > Is it because F38 is past end of support or is it just related to dracut? You can query the EOL date like this: $ hostnamectl Static hostname: armf38.chelsea.private Icon name: computer-vm Chassis: vm 🖴

Re: This OS version ... dracut (Init ramfs) is past its end-of-support date

2024-05-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2024-05-19 at 16:58 +0200, Frédéric wrote: > Hi, > > I get this strange message when I boot: > [ ↑↑ ] This OS version (Fedora Linux 38 (Thirty Eight) > dracut-059-5.fc38 (Init ramfs)) is past its end-of-support date > (2024-05-14). > > Is it because F38 is past

This OS version ... dracut (Init ramfs) is past its end-of-support date

2024-05-19 Thread Frédéric
Hi, I get this strange message when I boot: [ ↑↑ ] This OS version (Fedora Linux 38 (Thirty Eight) dracut-059-5.fc38 (Init ramfs)) is past its end-of-support date (2024-05-14). Is it because F38 is past end of support or is it just related to dracut? Thanks

Re: Did something just change with HDMI support?

2023-10-25 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 10/23/23 22:51, Tim via users wrote: And people actually write software to encourage users to take a break from spending too much time at their computer... ;-) I rage-quit using my computer at least once a day, because of all the terrible software out there. Does that count? -- ==

Re: Did something just change with HDMI support?

2023-10-23 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2023-10-23 at 21:39 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > 3 dogs here. One that justs wants to be told how pretty he is, one that > listens carefully and does what I tell him to do, and one that wants me > to come out and play if I stay at the computer for more than an hour. And people act

Re: Did something just change with HDMI support?

2023-10-23 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 7:23 PM Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 18:18:17 -0500 > Roger Heflin wrote: > > > Is your TV a Smart TV and is it connected to the internet in some way? > > Yea, I asked the same question on a samsung forum to find out > if some samsung update is responsible, bu

Re: Did something just change with HDMI support?

2023-10-23 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 9:18 PM Roger Heflin wrote: > I am sure it just wants to be helpful. Much like my dog wants to > help me with whatever I am doing. > I use a Vizio TV. The initial display and user menus change randomly, and even though it is connected by ethernet it sometimes complains

Re: Did something just change with HDMI support?

2023-10-23 Thread Roger Heflin
I am sure it just wants to be helpful. Much like my dog wants to help me with whatever I am doing. I really wish more developers would actually use their own products rather than just code for it and/or test it and realize how idiotic/annoying some of their cute but useless features are. On Mon

Re: Did something just change with HDMI support?

2023-10-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 19:21:16 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > I just booted into kernel 6.5.6-200.fc38.x86_64 and it doesn't seem > to display the annoying banner any longer, so I'm guessing it is > something "helpful" linux has done (I was previously using kernel > 6.5.7-200.fc38.x86_64 where the annoy

Re: Did something just change with HDMI support?

2023-10-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 18:18:17 -0500 Roger Heflin wrote: > Is your TV a Smart TV and is it connected to the internet in some way? Yea, I asked the same question on a samsung forum to find out if some samsung update is responsible, but since I just tried booting the previous kernel, the banner displ

Re: Did something just change with HDMI support?

2023-10-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 18:59:31 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > I use my samsung TV (QN90B) as a monitor. Until today, when I turned > it on, the picture would come right up and I could use it immediately. > Now, for some reason, a big banner appears at the top of the screen > telling me it is connected t

Re: Did something just change with HDMI support?

2023-10-23 Thread Roger Heflin
My TV as a monitor seems to randomly change its behavior. I suspect (since I had had the behavior change without rebooting/restarting X/Wayland) that the TV is updating firmware and reporting its boot up differently. Is your TV a Smart TV and is it connected to the internet in some way? On Mon,

Did something just change with HDMI support?

2023-10-23 Thread Tom Horsley
I use my samsung TV (QN90B) as a monitor. Until today, when I turned it on, the picture would come right up and I could use it immediately. Now, for some reason, a big banner appears at the top of the screen telling me it is connected to HDMI 4 and saying what resolution it is displaying (and the t

Re: WD BLUE SSD died. Not even seen in BIOS or via USB? Bad Response from WD Support.

2023-07-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 7/14/23 03:29, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: Not very happy with WD support, was actually looking for info to figure out what happened with drive versus trying to get a replacement, but that seems all they are concerned about NOT DOING. There's no way they could tell how or w

Re: WD BLUE SSD died. Not even seen in BIOS or via USB? Bad Response from WD Support.

2023-07-14 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 14 Jul 2023 at 15:08, Barry wrote: From: Barry Subject:Re: WD BLUE SSD died. Not even seen in BIOS or via USB? Bad Response from WD Support. Date sent: Fri, 14 Jul 2023 15:08:56 +0100 To: mi...@guam.net, Community

Re: WD BLUE SSD died. Not even seen in BIOS or via USB? Bad Response from WD Support.

2023-07-14 Thread Barry
> On 14 Jul 2023, at 11:29, Michael D. Setzer II via users > wrote: > > The two WD Black drives I just ordered and > seller sent serial numbers without being asked. WD Support comes > back that those serial numbers were meant for drives installed in > systems, so WD

Re: WD BLUE SSD died. Not even seen in BIOS or via USB? Bad Response from WD Support.

2023-07-14 Thread George N. White III
On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 7:29 AM Michael D. Setzer II via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Not very happy with WD support, was actually looking for info to > figure out what happened with drive versus trying to get a > replacement, but that seems all they are conc

Re: WD BLUE SSD died. Not even seen in BIOS or via USB? Bad Response from WD Support.

2023-07-14 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
: Community support for Fedora users > On 7/13/23 21:08, Michael Hennebry wrote: > > If you really want a warning and all else fails, > > use your own checksums. > > Have a process walk the filesystem. > > If a file is open for writing, skip it. > > If a file is

Re: KVM not avaible even though CPU and MB support is present

2022-12-03 Thread Ranbir
On Sat, 2022-11-26 at 21:57 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > Check the journal, it will probably have more details. I ended up updating the BIOS and now the kvm_intel module loads. -- Ranbir ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubsc

Re: KVM not avaible even though CPU and MB support is present

2022-11-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/26/22 18:28, Ranbir wrote: When I try to manually insert the kvm_intel module, I get this error: modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'kvm_intel': Operation not supported Check the journal, it will probably have more details. ___ users mailing lis

KVM not avaible even though CPU and MB support is present

2022-11-26 Thread Ranbir
I'm trying to create a VM on my Fedora 36 desktop with virt-manager and I'm seeing this error: "Warning: KVM is not available. This may mean the KVM package is not installed, or the KVM kernel modules are not loaded. Your virtual machines may perform poorly." Ok, so I figured I must have left VT-

Re: python support for kdevelop removed?

2022-05-30 Thread stan via users
On Sun, 29 May 2022 01:05:12 +0300 Adrian Sevcenco wrote: > Hi! I no longer find the python support for kdevelop... > was it removed? Yes, it looks like it was orphaned in October of last year (2021). You can get the last src.rpm package that built, from F34, and see if it will build f

python support for kdevelop removed?

2022-05-28 Thread Adrian Sevcenco
Hi! I no longer find the python support for kdevelop... was it removed? Thanks a lot! Adrian smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-17 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tom Horsley writes: On Tue, 17 May 2022 20:46:02 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Yes, and yes. And the lock-ups occur when the system is idle overnight and > does absolutely nothing whatsoever. That's the sort of thing that would make me want to run "journalctl -l -f" on an xterm remotely conne

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 17 May 2022 20:46:02 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Yes, and yes. And the lock-ups occur when the system is idle overnight and > does absolutely nothing whatsoever. That's the sort of thing that would make me want to run "journalctl -l -f" on an xterm remotely connected from another sys

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-17 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Thomas Dineen writes: « HTML content follows » Gentlemen: Its not just the heat sink, consider also the heat sink fan? is it big enough? That thing is a monster. is it working properly, at full Speed? Also do you have case fans? Again working properly? Yes, and yes. And the lock-ups oc

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-17 Thread Thomas Dineen
have a compatible MSI board somewhere around here. I actually tried it first but couldn't get it to work, and got this Gigabyte deal, but I'll give the MSI another go, or get a third one. I'm very happy with the 16-core Ryzen 2950X in my older gear, and I have more confidence i

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-17 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
ry happy with the 16-core Ryzen 2950X in my older gear, and I have more confidence in the CPU, especially seeing how unhelpful Gigabyte support turned out to be. I am thinking motherboard too. CPU are very high quality and I have only seen one bad on in 28 years.

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-17 Thread Sam Varshavchik
16-core Ryzen 2950X in my older gear, and I have more confidence in the CPU, especially seeing how unhelpful Gigabyte support turned out to be. pgpiJrV9iQ748.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscri

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-17 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 5/17/22 06:02, stan via users wrote: SSH into the system to see if it responds? I can run Thunar and geany and a few other simple interface programs over teh Intrnet to customer's sites wi6th SSH and X11. Here is a sample thunar run line: thunar ssh://50.zzz.xxx.yyy:abcd/home//Docume

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-17 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 5/17/22 05:41, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I swapped the CPU, and I have nothing to do but fiddle my thumbs for the next two weeks. My experience with such a test is that it will be the one time when it takes three times as long to reproduce and I jump to conclusions thinking I have found the p

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-17 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 5/17/22 04:57, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Plus the monster heat sink I strapped on the 16 core CPU Not to ask too stupid a question, but did you remember the thermal grease? xsensors will tell you. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-17 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 10:03 AM stan via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On Tue, 17 May 2022 07:46:09 -0400 > Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > > And I had something like this happen when a power supply was going > flaky. The voltages had drifted out of spec as it decayed. > I too hav

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-17 Thread Roger Heflin
fatal hw issue (PCIe error, machine check exceptions) the bios will reset the machine immediately and you won't get a crashdump/message on the screen but the machine will be found up but rebooted. None of the MB vendors price support(they only provide warranty of the hw, and will us

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-17 Thread stan via users
On Tue, 17 May 2022 07:46:09 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > No, everything's frozen, no response. It usually hangs overnight, > with the monitor sleeping. No response from the keyboard, no pings > from the network. The only thing to do is to hit reset and reboot. > > Nothing gets logged in syslo

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-17 Thread Sam Varshavchik
ToddAndMargo via users writes: HAve yo tried turning off all teh "sleep" and "suspend" features and set everything to always on. Also, do you have a UPS power supply? Is your VCR blinking? Yes, the whole thing's on a UPS. I adjusted all the appropriate sleep and suspend settings. Its c

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-17 Thread George N. White III
s keeps locking up on me. After some back and > forth > their last reply ended the discussion thread with a: > > # Since we do not fully support and validate Linux, we cannot offer full > # support on Linux. Please try a Windows base OS to check if you are still > # experiencing

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-17 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 5/17/22 04:57, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Is your case closed when this happens?  Open cases do not cool properly. I have plenty of cooling on this thing, five 120mm fans. Two came with the case, it had space for four more, and I shoved three more in. I had to get 1:3 fan power multipliers, to

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-17 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 5/17/22 04:46, Sam Varshavchik wrote: ToddAndMargo via users writes: On 5/17/22 03:13, Sam Varshavchik wrote: ToddAndMargo via users writes: Are all your fans working?  Frozen fans on video cards are a YUGE cause of freeze ups. It's a brand new Radeon 7750 card. I have not closely inspe

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-17 Thread Sam Varshavchik
ToddAndMargo via users writes: On 5/17/22 03:13, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I keep the system doing nothing, and it freezes up randomly every 3-10 days. On Windows machines, if fans are frozen and not cooling properly, you turn your back to them for a bit, then turn back, touch the keyboard, and

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-17 Thread Sam Varshavchik
ToddAndMargo via users writes: On 5/17/22 03:13, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Ryzen 3950X CPU I have found that AMD processors' only reason for existence is to keep Intel's prices down. It is not that AMD can't make a good CPU, it is because they are expected to be cheaper and so everything else t

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-17 Thread Sam Varshavchik
ToddAndMargo via users writes: On 5/17/22 03:13, Sam Varshavchik wrote: ToddAndMargo via users writes: Are all your fans working?  Frozen fans on video cards are a YUGE cause of freeze ups. It's a brand new Radeon 7750 card. I have not closely inspected its tiny fan, but everything's quie

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-17 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 5/17/22 03:13, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I keep the system doing nothing, and it freezes up randomly every 3-10 days. On Windows machines, if fans are frozen and not cooling properly, you turn your back to them for a bit, then turn back, touch the keyboard, and they freeze up. Gives the user

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-17 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 5/17/22 03:13, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Ryzen 3950X CPU I have found that AMD processors' only reason for existence is to keep Intel's prices down. It is not that AMD can't make a good CPU, it is because they are expected to be cheaper and so everything else that goes with them is also expect

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-17 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 5/17/22 03:13, Sam Varshavchik wrote: ToddAndMargo via users writes: Are all your fans working?  Frozen fans on video cards are a YUGE cause of freeze ups. It's a brand new Radeon 7750 card. I have not closely inspected its tiny fan, but everything's quiet on that front. The system hangs

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-17 Thread Richard Ibbotson
Hi I used to build workstations and servers for the Computacenter in St Albans England. 200 machines a night. I've just had a long session with a Gigabyte board and an NVIDIA card. A GK107GL Quadro K600 card which refused to work with anything. I tried Debian 11. Linux Mint. Arch Linux and Fed

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-17 Thread Sam Varshavchik
ToddAndMargo via users writes: Are all your fans working? Frozen fans on video cards are a YUGE cause of freeze ups. It's a brand new Radeon 7750 card. I have not closely inspected its tiny fan, but everything's quiet on that front. The system hangs when it's idle, pretty much overnight.

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-16 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2022-05-16 at 19:02 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > One of their motherboards keeps locking up on me. After some back and > forth their last reply ended the discussion thread with a: > > # Since we do not fully support and validate Linux, we cannot offer full > # support o

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