Solved - Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-07-13 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Just want to report in that thanks to Roger, I am running smoothly with the amdgpu driver and no lockups for over a week and 1 kernel update. I closed the bug I had filed and closing this thread. Take care all, and thanks! On 7/4/22 19:51, Roger Heflin wrote: Once the conf file is in place

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-07-04 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 7/4/22 19:51, Roger Heflin wrote: Once the conf file is in place any upgrades will keep this so long as you don't do a clean instat.. -f and --force are the same, so I would suspect you were booted into an older/different kernel and it rebuilt the initramfs for that older kernel but this ke

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-07-04 Thread Roger Heflin
Once the conf file is in place any upgrades will keep this so long as you don't do a clean instat.. -f and --force are the same, so I would suspect you were booted into an older/different kernel and it rebuilt the initramfs for that older kernel but this kernel had been installed earlier and dracu

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-07-04 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Looks like it took this time: # grep -v adfasd /sys/module/*/parameters/si_support /sys/module/*/parameters/cik_support /sys/module/amdgpu/parameters/si_support:1 /sys/module/radeon/parameters/si_support:0 /sys/module/amdgpu/parameters/cik_support:1 /sys/module/radeon/parameters/cik_support:0

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-07-04 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 7/4/22 16:24, Roger Heflin wrote: the 2nd entry needs to be on the same grep line. But based on the output the options in that file aren't being used. On mine both of the options are set to one on amdgpu, and 0 on radeon. do lsinitrd | grep enable_amdgpu_disable_radeon you should see th

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-07-04 Thread Roger Heflin
the 2nd entry needs to be on the same grep line. But based on the output the options in that file aren't being used. On mine both of the options are set to one on amdgpu, and 0 on radeon. do lsinitrd | grep enable_amdgpu_disable_radeon you should see the file being included in the output. If

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-07-04 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 7/4/22 15:19, Roger Heflin wrote: try this and see what it shows: grep -v adfasd /sys/module/*/parameters/si_support /sys/module/amdgpu/parameters/si_support:0 /sys/module/radeon/parameters/si_support:1 /sys/module/*/parameters/cik_support As root: -bash: /sys/module/amdgpu/parameters

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-07-04 Thread Roger Heflin
try this and see what it shows: grep -v adfasd /sys/module/*/parameters/si_support /sys/module/*/parameters/cik_support to verify that radeon is disabled and amdgpu is enabled. I tried on mine, an my amd gpu is a really old one while claiming to be supported by amdgpu, acts like it is not. On M

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-07-04 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Finally did this: I did not make the change when I got back to my office/home, and things worked fine into mid-sunday when it locked again.  Did a dnf update from a character session after power cycle and new kernel, firefox, and linuxfirmware.  So decided to see how it would go. And I could

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-30 Thread Roger Heflin
I do not believe anything else is needed.Where dmesg said "radeon:", it should now say "amdgpu:". amdgpu seems to be the replacement and/or currently developed driver. And the recent non-ryzen AMD laptops are using an older AMD cpu + ATI/AMD build-in video, that originally were blocked from

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Is it correct to assume that I don't have to install anything more to get the amdgpu driver? On 6/30/22 06:22, Roger Heflin wrote: That will not work. If I am reading the module options right (and other peoples comments), amdgpu will not manage a si/cik chipset unless the correct _support is s

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-30 Thread Roger Heflin
That will not work. If I am reading the module options right (and other peoples comments), amdgpu will not manage a si/cik chipset unless the correct _support is set to 1. On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 12:16 AM Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 6/29/22 18:25, Roger Heflin wrote: > > The notes I found say to c

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-29 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 6/29/22 18:25, Roger Heflin wrote: The notes I found say to create a file in /etc/modprobe.d And say call it anything but something like enable_amdgpu_disable_radeon.conf and put this in it: options amdgpu si_support=1 options amdgpu cik_support=1 options radeon si_support=0 options radeon ci

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-29 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 19:04 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Restarted. Had nothing running but Firefox. No problem. > > Went to cnn.com and waited maybe 1min and the things were locked. > > Whatever cnn is doing running things triggers the lockup. No > Thunderbirds running around. QEMU is u

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-29 Thread Chris Murphy
What version of Firefox are you using? There was a version a couple weeks ago that snuck passed updates-testing into stable that has a nasty memory leak. I ran into it with oomd killing it off, so I masked oomd. Haha, bad idea, the memory leak locked the whole setup, had to force power off (I gave

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-29 Thread Roger Heflin
The notes I found say to create a file in /etc/modprobe.d And say call it anything but something like enable_amdgpu_disable_radeon.conf and put this in it: options amdgpu si_support=1 options amdgpu cik_support=1 options radeon si_support=0 options radeon cik_support=0 and then do a "dracut --for

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-29 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 6/29/22 20:13, Roger Heflin wrote: lspci -nnk | egrep -i "VGA|DISPLAY" -A3 lspci -nnk | egrep -i "VGA|DISPLAY" -A3 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kabini [Radeon HD 8330] [1002:9832]     Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:2219]     Kernel dr

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-29 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 6/29/22 19:49, Roger Heflin wrote: What kind of video card/builtin do you have? (lspci | grep -i vga) lspci | grep -i vga 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kabini [Radeon HD 8330] Only really old amd/ati cards use the radeon driver. The newer

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-29 Thread Roger Heflin
lspci -nnk | egrep -i "VGA|DISPLAY" -A3 and see if the card reports amdgpu could also work for the card.I am going to guess amdgpu can be used, my 2010 vintage FM2 amd can apparently use either driver also. On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 6:49 PM Roger Heflin wrote: > > What kind of video card/buil

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-29 Thread Roger Heflin
What kind of video card/builtin do you have? (lspci | grep -i vga) Only really old amd/ati cards use the radeon driver. The newer cards use amdgpu. And your dmesg lists your bios as being a 2020 bios release and that would indicate the hardware you are using is new so makes me wonder why you

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-29 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 6/28/22 20:52, George N. White III wrote: On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 8:40 PM Robert Moskowitz wrote: Samuel, Well thanks.  It is NOT the kernel as I am still locking up.  But it is something else related to that update, as I did not get these lockups before.  I have upda

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-29 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Just crashed again. Restarted.  Had nothing running but Firefox.  No problem. Went to cnn.com and waited maybe 1min and the things were locked. Whatever cnn is doing running things triggers the lockup.  No Thunderbirds running around.  QEMU is up, but image is not running. OpenOffice is sitt

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-29 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I am not entirely sure that Thuderbird is my problem. I just had to get on $M Meetings and when the app came up, the app window was white.  Nothing.  I am going to try and figure this out later, but Meetings is not not working, when it did last week, then something really changed. On 6/29/22

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-29 Thread Roger Heflin
There are lots of this error going around, going back >10 years. Thunderbird is what is crashing, see if reverting thunderbird to the prior version makes the crash go away. In libraries and/or system calls there are often bugs that fail to block bad/invalid call parameters provided by an applicat

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-29 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 6/28/22 21:06, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 6/28/22 16:38, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Well thanks.  It is NOT the kernel as I am still locking up.  But it is something else related to that update, as I did not get these lockups before.  I have updated the bug report and sent a number of related sel

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-29 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 6/28/22 20:52, George N. White III wrote: On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 8:40 PM Robert Moskowitz wrote: Samuel, Well thanks.  It is NOT the kernel as I am still locking up.  But it is something else related to that update, as I did not get these lockups before.  I have upda

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-28 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 6/28/22 16:38, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Well thanks.  It is NOT the kernel as I am still locking up.  But it is something else related to that update, as I did not get these lockups before.  I have updated the bug report and sent a number of related selinux error details and messages The se

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-28 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 8:40 PM Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Samuel, > > Well thanks. It is NOT the kernel as I am still locking up. But it is > something else related to that update, as I did not get these lockups > before. I have updated the bug report and sent a number of related > selinux err

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-28 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Samuel, Well thanks.  It is NOT the kernel as I am still locking up.  But it is something else related to that update, as I did not get these lockups before.  I have updated the bug report and sent a number of related selinux error details and messages My video is radeon.  That is showing in

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-28 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Just locked again. Now running with kernel:  15.17.12.200 On 6/28/22 06:18, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 6/28/22 02:27, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 6/27/22 19:20, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Happened again.  I submitted a bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2101629 If you think it's the

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-28 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 6/28/22 02:27, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 6/27/22 19:20, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Happened again.  I submitted a bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2101629 If you think it's the kernel, did you try booting the previous kernel to see if it still happens? Dah. Next time! 

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-27 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 6/27/22 19:20, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Happened again.  I submitted a bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2101629 If you think it's the kernel, did you try booting the previous kernel to see if it still happens? ___ users mailing li

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Happened again.  I submitted a bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2101629 On 6/27/22 11:35, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Sounds interesting.  Will try this if nothing else gets fixed when I get home Friday. On 6/27/22 10:44, Roger Heflin wrote: How did you reboot the machine? Cur

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-27 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 00:47 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Since updates Saturday night I have been having hard lock ups. It > looks like Firefox is the trigger. Do you have lots of tabs open? Any add-ons/extensions? Do you go through its settings and check what all the preferences are? I go

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Sounds interesting.  Will try this if nothing else gets fixed when I get home Friday. On 6/27/22 10:44, Roger Heflin wrote: How did you reboot the machine? Cursor still moving would seem to indicate paging possibly, or simply userspace stopping. If you have another machine ssh into it and r

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 6/27/22 10:17, stan via users wrote: On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 08:53:48 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote: And I should add that the cursor still moves around but no response to mouse clicks or keystrokes.  And video is frozen. On 6/27/22 00:47, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Since updates Saturday night

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I forgot the command to see what my video driver is, but I recall it is not nvidia. On 6/27/22 09:40, Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 08:53:48 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote: And I should add that the cursor still moves around but no response to mouse clicks or keystrokes.  And video is

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-27 Thread Roger Heflin
How did you reboot the machine? Cursor still moving would seem to indicate paging possibly, or simply userspace stopping. If you have another machine ssh into it and run "top" before trying what crashes and see if top stops or keeps responding. if it keeps responding, then what it says should be

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-27 Thread stan via users
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 08:53:48 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > And I should add that the cursor still moves around but no response > to mouse clicks or keystrokes.  And video is frozen. > > On 6/27/22 00:47, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > Since updates Saturday night I have been having hard lock ups.

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 08:53:48 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > And I should add that the cursor still moves around but no response to > mouse clicks or keystrokes.  And video is frozen. Every time I install a new version of fedora, I give the nouveau drivers a chance to see if they have improved,

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz
And I should add that the cursor still moves around but no response to mouse clicks or keystrokes.  And video is frozen. On 6/27/22 00:47, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Since updates Saturday night I have been having hard lock ups.  It looks like Firefox is the trigger. Lenovo X140e notebook F35 c