Happened again.  I submitted a bug:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2101629



On 6/27/22 11:35, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Sounds interesting.  Will try this if nothing else gets fixed when I get home Friday.

On 6/27/22 10:44, Roger Heflin wrote:
How did you reboot the machine?

Cursor still moving would seem to indicate paging possibly, or simply userspace stopping.

If you have another machine ssh into it and run "top" before trying what crashes and see if top stops or keeps responding.  if it keeps responding, then what it says should be useful.

If ssh does not respond then see if you can ping it (if ping works this confirms paging and/or user space deadlock).

If I leave weather channel open (on either windows or linux) it will eventually use a significant amount of ram with firefox, I have not tried it with chrome.   There is a pretty good chance that other web pages can do the same thing.



On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 11:48 PM Robert Moskowitz <r...@htt-consult.com> wrote:

    Since updates Saturday night I have been having hard lock ups. 
    It looks
    like Firefox is the trigger.

    Lenovo X140e notebook

    F35 current with all updates as of Saturday night.

    Xfce desktop

    It was really bad at first.  I finally managed to kill Firefox
    auto load
    pages by in a non-graphics session, watching what top was reporting
    going on in the graphics session and killing Firefox.

    Then starting Firefox and closing all my windows as they open.
    Finally
    got it to start up with nothing to open.  That was this morning. 
    Things
    seemed to be working OK until now when I got to my Hilton hotel
    for the
    night and going through their miserable portal that FIrefox would
    not
    accept their cert, and then it locked again.

    Just booted.  Updated again and only got added:

    Upgraded:
    alsa-sof-firmware-2.1.1-1.fc35.noarch
    mariadb-connector-c-3.2.7-1.fc35.x86_64
    mariadb-connector-c-config-3.2.7-1.fc35.noarch
    pipewire-0.3.52-4.fc35.x86_64
    pipewire-alsa-0.3.52-4.fc35.x86_64
    pipewire-gstreamer-0.3.52-4.fc35.x86_64
    pipewire-jack-audio-connection-kit-0.3.52-4.fc35.x86_64
    pipewire-libs-0.3.52-4.fc35.x86_64
    pipewire-pulseaudio-0.3.52-4.fc35.x86_64
    pipewire-utils-0.3.52-4.fc35.x86_64
    Skipped:
       python3-reportlab-3.6.10-1.fc35.x86_64

    I can't tell where, in /var/log/messages the system locked and
    then I
    rebooted.  I did not note the times closely.

    Anyone hear anything like this?  So far can't find anything in bugs.

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