Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-11-02 Thread Patrick Mansfield via users
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 07:47:22AM -0400, Max Pyziur wrote: > My personal setup is three Fedora machines (two laptops), a Windows 10 > laptop, and an older desktop used for backup/storage. > > The last has been running a variant of CentOS for the longest time; backup is > done hourly on the Fed

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-11-02 Thread James Szinger
On Thu, 31 Oct 2024 09:59:56 -0400 Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > I use Fedora Server in place of CentOS. I made the switch years ago. > It was too frustrating trying to run a modern LAMP stack with a modern > Wiki on RHEL or CentOS due to the antique software. The old software is bad enough, but the

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-11-02 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2024-11-01 at 22:28 -0700, Dave Close wrote: > The difficulty comes in defining "what {it} is supposed to do". If I > buy an IC measuring less than 0.2 cm2, I get (or can get) hundreds of > pages of documentation on what it does and does not do, exactly how it > does those things, and test

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-11-01 Thread Dave Close
Tim wrote: >You'd think (you'd wish) they'd get snared by the original release not >being "fit for purpose" being against several laws that obligated them >to providing something that was, and didn't let them weasel out after >some arbitrary time limit. > >We have such laws about real products. Y

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-11-01 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2024-11-01 at 06:49 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: > The company we bought from had the policy that you had to have paid > support to download firmware updates after the warranty expired. You'd think (you'd wish) they'd get snared by the original release not being "fit for purpose" being again

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-11-01 Thread Robert McBroom via users
On 10/31/24 7:47 AM, Max Pyziur wrote: Greetings, My personal setup is three Fedora machines (two laptops), a Windows 10 laptop, and an older desktop used for backup/storage. The last has been running a variant of CentOS for the longest time; backup is done hourly on the Fedora machines usin

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-11-01 Thread Sbob
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Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-11-01 Thread Roger Heflin
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 10:40 PM Tim via users wrote: > > On Thu, 2024-10-31 at 19:16 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: > > And note I was the person that worked the hard cases for a company > > with > 5,000 licenses, so if most senior linux resource at a company > > with that sort of licenses are gettin

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2024-10-31 at 07:47 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote: > CentOS 7 went EOL in June. To that end, what does the Fedora > community recommend as a replacement/alternative? That may depend on your reasons for using CentOS. You (in a later message) mentioned one reason being because you also used a Cen

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 11:40 PM Tim via users wrote: > > On Thu, 2024-10-31 at 19:16 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: > > And note I was the person that worked the hard cases for a company > > with > 5,000 licenses, so if most senior linux resource at a company > > with that sort of licenses are gettin

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2024-10-31 at 19:16 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: > And note I was the person that worked the hard cases for a company > with > 5,000 licenses, so if most senior linux resource at a company > with that sort of licenses are getting this story then everyone else > is screwed.. > > All paid gets

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/31/24 19:08, Go Canes wrote: On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 7:39 PM ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I don't use the server install of Fedora though. I use a Live USB. Then I dnf whatever server programs I want. That keeps me from having a tons of junk I don't use running. WIth the Server netin

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/31/24 18:51, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 9:37 PM Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 31 Oct 2024 18:27:43 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: And Bugzilla got things fixed Not everything. See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451562 Reported 2008, now listed

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Go Canes
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 7:39 PM ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > I don't use the server install of Fedora though. I use a > Live USB. Then I dnf whatever server programs I want. > That keeps me from having a tons of junk I don't use > running. WIth the Server netinstall ISO you can control what

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 9:37 PM Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Thu, 31 Oct 2024 18:27:43 -0700 > ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > > And Bugzilla got things fixed > > Not everything. See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451562 > > Reported 2008, now listed on the historic bug register :

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 31 Oct 2024 18:27:43 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > And Bugzilla got things fixed Not everything. See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451562 Reported 2008, now listed on the historic bug register :-). -- ___ users maili

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/31/24 17:16, Roger Heflin wrote: On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 6:39 PM ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I found RHEL and friends too frustrating to use. They freeze their stuff so as to not have upgrade issues occur. Problem is they freeze the good and the bad. And it is like pulling teeth t

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Roger Heflin
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 6:39 PM ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > I found RHEL and friends too frustrating to use. They > freeze their stuff so as to not have upgrade issues > occur. Problem is they freeze the good and the bad. > And it is like pulling teeth to get the to fix anything, > unless

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Thomas Dineen
Use Debian: CentOS8 would not run on my newest AMD Processor Boards! On 10/31/2024 11:49 AM, Thomas Cameron wrote: On 10/31/24 6:47 AM, Max Pyziur wrote: Greetings, My personal setup is three Fedora machines (two laptops), a Windows 10 laptop, and an older desktop used for backup/storage.

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/31/24 06:59, Jeffrey Walton wrote: I use Fedora Server in place of CentOS. I made the switch years ago. It was too frustrating trying to run a modern LAMP stack with a modern Wiki on RHEL or CentOS due to the antique software. I found RHEL and friends too frustrating to use. They freeze

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Roger Heflin
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 3:44 PM Max Pyziur wrote: > > > > Use Red Hat Enterprise Linux. You can do so for zero cost. > > > > Go to https://developers.redhat.com/ and sign up. Then you can download > > and use RHEL on up to 16 your development/personal use machines. You can > > use RHEL virtualizat

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 10/31/24 3:43 PM, Max Pyziur wrote: Thank you for the recommendation. Reviewing your link, I see that "Developer membership benefits" are available for only one year. Is this really the case or is it extendable in some way? Per the other answer that I received on this thread, I'm inclined t

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Max Pyziur
> On 10/31/2024 2:49 PM EDT Thomas Cameron > wrote: > > > On 10/31/24 6:47 AM, Max Pyziur wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > My personal setup is three Fedora machines (two laptops), a Windows 10 > > laptop, and an older desktop used for backup/storage. > > > > The last has been running a varia

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 10/31/24 6:47 AM, Max Pyziur wrote: Greetings, My personal setup is three Fedora machines (two laptops), a Windows 10 laptop, and an older desktop used for backup/storage. The last has been running a variant of CentOS for the longest time; backup is done hourly on the Fedora machines using

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 7:47 AM Max Pyziur wrote: > > My personal setup is three Fedora machines (two laptops), a Windows 10 > laptop, and an older desktop used for backup/storage. > > The last has been running a variant of CentOS for the longest time; backup is > done hourly on the Fedora machi

CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Max Pyziur
Greetings, My personal setup is three Fedora machines (two laptops), a Windows 10 laptop, and an older desktop used for backup/storage. The last has been running a variant of CentOS for the longest time; backup is done hourly on the Fedora machines using rsync. CentOS 7 went EOL in June. To