kit
$ yum info polkit-desktop-policy
...
I hope this will get you started, eventually with their site, devs, or
users list.
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I would suggest that you post it on Fedora devel list, or, file a report for
a systemd component at bugzilla.redhat.com, in order to make the systemd devs
aware of it (they may not read this list).
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> On 04-01-12 20:08, JB wrote:
> > I think this list should not be moderated at all because as I already said
> > it
> > can be easily manipulated into killing it.
>
> IMO that Linda person is killing this list
screening and pad-downs :-)
I am for restoring "Linda" to her full list membership, w/o moderation.
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> Mr. Pot, may I introduce you to my friend Mr. Kettle?
Well, welcome to the club.
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> ...
> JB,
> It indicates that he can do a good job of moderating a list. Think
> of it as a job reference.
>
> Mikkel
> - --
Mikkel,
you are very easy here to "set up" (because that's what it is)
o this list with the justification as he did it,
he showed that he is a complete buffoon !
I say to him once again - get lost !
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en this and "with all due respect".
>
I do not think you are up to the task if you are confused about the above ...
This is not a list to be "moderated" by half-witts of your caliber.
Get lost.
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GNOME I just do because I am able (sysadmin).
>
Olav,
with all due respect ...
Because you are GNOME list moderator, does not qualify you to be one for this
list.
As a matter of fact, you should distance yourself from GNOME after all that
DE garbage they delivered to Fedora users, all over the
ork
# file /etc/init.d/network
/etc/init.d/network: Bourne-Again shell script text executable
# /etc/init.d/network status
bash: /etc/init.d/network: Permission denied
# sh /etc/init.d/network status
Configured devices:
lo
Currently active devices:
lo eth0
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Neal Becker gmail.com> writes:
>
> In recent fedoras, core dumps seem to be intercepted and handled by abrtd.
>
> What if I want my core dump of my code?
>
abrt.conf(5)
/etc/abrt/abrt.conf
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Reindl Harald thelounge.net> writes:
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> >> On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:21 PM, JB gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Anything mounted on /media has to be of actual "type" of that media.
> >>> Btw, a CD mounted on /media, even if temporarily, represent
T.C. Hollingsworth gmail.com> writes:
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> On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:21 PM, JB gmail.com> wrote:
> > Anything mounted on /media has to be of actual "type" of that media.
> > Btw, a CD mounted on /media, even if temporarily, represents "a persistent
a (but not of /media/NETBSD_51) due to its path.
CONCLUSION:
Due to /media being a *generic* (top level) qualifier, having fs types as its
sub-qualifiers when /media is actually populated (mounted), the updatedb
should process PRUNEPATHS *before* PRUNEFS for it to work correctly.
It is a bug, up
less for them and "updatedb" runs forever
> on slow temporary mounts with a hughe amount of files
>
>
>
The place to prune /media is as under F14, that is by path and NOT by fs:
# cat /etc/updatedb.conf-orig
...
PRUNEPATHS = "/afs /media /net /sfs /tmp /udev /v
y a
> network name, but a WINS server should have been queried, instead.
> ...
Explanation here as well.
http://www.justlinux.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-43676.html
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BIOS if needed. You can boot thru F10
to cd/dvd drive, so it should be not a problem. Be careful not to interrupt
such an update, also stable AC/DC and battery.
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M. Fioretti nexaima.net> writes:
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> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 22:28:20 PM +, JB wrote:
> >
> > Reboot to BIOS (F2 key):
> > - restore Setup Defaults (some F? key), then SAVE and EXIT to restart
>
> I had already tried before my first post everyt
ks good (see above) you can perform your installation once again with
custom layout.
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into a text file for
> further processing.
>
> What is the easiest way to do this ?
>
> Thanks
What exactly is the output of 'stat' on a corrupted file (do not edit it) ?
$ stat
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Cinnamon: GNOME Shell Fork With A GNOME2-Like Layout
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> don't all things work. gmail.com>
>
>
I think we should consider outsourcing the Fedora project to our Chinese
friends. They would know what to do ... :-)
http://blogs.reuters.com/photographers-blog/2011/12/12/chinas-
ad of 30d where appropriate according to tmpwatch format.
- add or create or modify a crontab file for a user to be run by cron
cron(1), crontab(1)
# ls -l /var/spool/cron
# crontab -u jb -e
< edit it by adding a job; see examples in crontab(5), e.g.
SHELL=/bin/sh
MAILTO=root
#
Ian Malone gmail.com> writes:
> ...
> I'm finding an email blacklist is useful for protecting my sanity.
>
'Better the devil you know than the devil you don't".
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Daniel J Walsh redhat.com> writes:
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>
> On 12/07/2011 03:14 AM, JB wrote:
> > JB gmail.com> writes:
> >
> >> ...
> >
> > To make my point clear.
> >
> > In general, the resuce mode turns all services off for the purpose
> &
JB gmail.com> writes:
> ...
To make my point clear.
In general, the resuce mode turns all services off for the purpose of preserving
the original troubled environment (machine state) and preventing any worsening
of it until it can be investigated or fixed.
So it seems a rescue mode shou
else you are in for a very fun ride with your
> rescue operation...
That may be true on the surface, but as I already stated there is a danger
in selinux not finishing or getting stuck, altering system state to be
"rescued" (investigated or fixed).
> ...
Y
Joe Zeff zeff.us> writes:
>
> On 12/06/2011 03:15 PM, JB wrote:
> > That's why I suggested a clean start.
>
> Yes, I understand all of that, at least as well as you do. (Hint: I
> started using computers in 1968, and Linux in 1998.) You still haven'
Joe Zeff zeff.us> writes:
>
> On 12/06/2011 12:39 PM, JB wrote:
> > I think you should download and burn F16 live-cd (XFCE I guess is safest for
> > you) and start with a clean install.
>
> Why? Wouldn't it be even better to create a kickstart file so that all
relabeling (potential interference/change to system
state as described above, it may not even finish its job, and so I am stuck
and unable to fix the system, now and possibly on next attempt as well).
Do you see a problem here ?
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a separate partition or elsewhere (cd-rw, for example).
Why fight if you can start fresh ? In this upgrade path it is preferable.
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ifdown-isdn ifup-aliases ifup-plip ifup-wireless
$ cat /etc/sysconfig/network
NETWORKING=yes
HOSTNAME=localhost.localdomain
$ cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/*-eth0
...
Hope this will jump start you.
There is plenty of official RH/Fedora docs and info on the Internet.
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n it is a double whammy !
This is not only about programming and designing skills.
Your mindset has been polluted by IT players, marketing, companies you work
for, your peers.
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lick how will anyone logically deduce this and
> try it ?
Yep, that's the most sensible critique so far in this thread (after mine) -
it almost matches "The Linus view of GNOME 3.2" ...
> ...
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> your whimpers are laughable. I don't recall seeing you post on this list
> before tonight. Are you a longtime Fedora user? Been using a different
> name?
>
> Craig
>
You are a clueless troll. Educate yourself.
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g of this distro.
Restore meaning to "OS product" (as opposite to a "test system OS").
Say "yes" to UNIX (it is your friend), features that enhance (evolve) what is
already there, embrace stability as a goal.
Avanti !
But I am actually not here ...
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Opera &q
r else you wish.
When you finish you can leave by:
# shutdown -Fr now
or
# exit
On boot, this time stop as above once again and change that kernel boot option
to:
systemd.unit=multi-user.target
which should bring you to non-GUI login.
After that your system should be yours (debug
port and let the LXDE maintainer know about it. He will check things out
and package them if approved.
He made one substitution that I know of in a recent release so he is open to
that provided all other things are OK.
> ...
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x as well as it was the only app active at the time, but with
average number of tabs (less than 10), one youtube, etc.
No proof of what's causing it as well - random occurrence, no dumps, no
error messages in a log.
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Craig White azapple.com> writes:
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> On Fri, 2011-11-25 at 06:34 +, JB wrote:
>
> > >
> > > You are largely irrelevant, somewhat absurd and probably best ignored -
> > > sorry, I tried.
> > > ...
> >
> > But you are not sure ..
Craig White azapple.com> writes:
>
> On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 22:25 +, JB wrote:
> > The above mentioned stats (see other thread) reflect that; that they show
> > almost half of Fedora sites migrated to other distros/OSs is not so
> > surprsising considering its
vice.
The so called "smart money" has already left, the other half of the herd is
running towards the cliff, making themselves irrelevant as a product (Fedora).
That's why I said it here and in the other (stats) thread it is time to blink
and reconstitute RH-controlled Fedora projec
d miserably.
There is an opinion piece on Ubuntu and Unity, but could be on GNOME as well.
http://www.h-online.com/open/features/HealthCheck-Ubuntu-The-search-for-unity-1377292.html
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David gmail.com> writes:
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> For the moment... peace? I am sorry if I took you for someone else.
Please forward my impersonator's email then.
Peace as well :-)
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David gmail.com> writes:
> ...
> My "political axes to grind" are with those like the user that started
> this thread who calls himself JB. It was a waste of bandwidth. This is
> supposed to be a *help* list for those that have a problem or a question
> and not a *c
te in any other Internet discussions except Fedora lists ...
> ...
> I offended him? Really? I offered him a simple solution to his problem
> and he insulted me. And I left the thread with a pleasant goodbye.
>
> Same here for you. Have a great evening. And enjoy your Trolling.
>
Marko Vojinovic gmail.com> writes:
>
> On Wednesday 23 November 2011 09:57:35 JB wrote:
> > After RH and Fedora statistics, some more results:
> >
> > http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/fedora-16.html
>
> Oh, come on JB, do you really think quoting that guy m
Mikkel L. Ellertson gmail.com> writes:
>
> On 11/23/2011 03:57 AM, JB wrote:
> >
> > The purpose of a distro project is to deliver a product (not to maintain
> > a test system OS), with implied quality, and for a user.
> >
> > It is time to blink.
/North_Dakota/New_Salem, America/Phoenix, America/Boise,
> America/Indiana/Indianapolis, America/Indiana/Marengo,
> America/Indiana/Vincennes, America/Indiana/Tell_City,
> America/Indiana/Petersburg and several others.
> ...
Well, all I can say is we live in interesting times :-)
Libe
David gmail.com> writes:
>
> On 11/23/2011 4:57 AM, JB wrote:
> > After RH and Fedora statistics, some more results:
> >
> > http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/fedora-16.html
> >
> > The purpose of a distro project is to deliver a product (not to maint
oo sophisticated in that neck of
the woods ?
There are towns in the US that do not observe daylight saving times - should
they get their own time zones too ?
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http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/fedora-16.html
The purpose of a distro project is to deliver a product (not to maintain a test
system OS), with implied quality, and for a user.
It is time to blink.
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Rahul Sundaram gmail.com> writes:
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:58 AM, JB gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> With regard to composition of governing bodies, it is not that Fedora would
> start from scratch.
>
>
> Let's try again. You reply doesn
Rahul Sundaram gmail.com> writes:
>
> On 11/14/2011 01:04 AM, JB wrote:
>
> >
> > Perhaps no fork would be required.
>
> Even if it is "required", it is a lot of work and I am not sure anyone
> with just a opinion would be willing to sign up for
Thomas Cameron camerontech.com> writes:
>
>
> On 11/13/2011 11:16 AM, JB wrote:
> > ? yahoo.co.jp> writes:
> >
> >> ...
> >> The IT market is massively overweight,
> >> overvalued and engages in enormously wasteful development prac
Bruno Wolff III wolff.to> writes:
>
> On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:45:34 +0000,
> JB gmail.com> wrote:
> > Some from an independent Fedora devs, others from other distros by
> > adoption of
> > those that are useful and not conflicting with its goals.
>
ties)
- forward-looking - yes, but more reasonable in its choice of projects and
features
- more stable due to above and by delivering when ready
- attracting more devs, also converts from other distros who are often looking
for home but are turned off by RH total control
-
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created RH to cover low-end market (RH providing services), eliminating
pressures from that side by making life miserable for more formidable than RH
companies and IBM competitors, itself concentrating on lucrative
mid-to-high-end (mostly mainframe once again, please) side.
So, back to the future for I
Thomas Cameron camerontech.com> writes:
>
>
> On 11/13/2011 01:15 AM, JB wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > every Fedora release is going downhill ...
>
> Erm, no. Each Fedora release has brought in numerous technical
> improvements. Virtualization, clusteri
;geo=all&date=all&sort=0
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T.C. Hollingsworth gmail.com> writes:
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> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 10:53 AM, JB gmail.com> wrote:
> > T.C. Hollingsworth gmail.com> writes:
> >
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Michael D. Berger
> >> ieee.org>
> > wrote
;
> iptables support is compiled into Fedora kernels and is always
> available, therefore no module exists.
>
> -T.C.
That's true, but you spoiled his searching/learning process. And mine too :-)
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a repo (mirror)
Just download it and unpack.
- your machine
If you do not have it, learn how to download it.
Yum makes it easy, the executable is yumdownloader.
http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/red-hat-fedora-linux/20689-donwload-kernel-source-using-yum.html
etc.
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bove, seems like the most
optimal path. The current performance of ext4 vice btrfs justifies such a move.
Everybody would eventually benefit, but nobody with conflicting interests would
control the process.
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s.
> ...
But what about those atractive features (some ZFS-like) the users would like to
have, e.g.:
- checksumming
- roll back
- snapshots
- pools
Is it possible to implement them on ext4 ?
Perhaps writing off ext4 in favor of btrfs in context of new features
development is premature ?
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Fernando Cassia gmail.com> writes:
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 15:45, JB gmail.com> wrote:
> Perhaps you could make your statement in the upcoming Fedora Project Board and
> FESCo elections
>
>
> Nobody forces you to use BTRFS, or IBM JFS or XFS for that matt
erybody else in the Twilight Zone is following downhill ...
Perhaps you could make your statement in the upcoming Fedora Project Board and
FESCo elections ?
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>
> Will there still be an option to install the new grub 2 in the os
> partition instead of the disk boot partition?
>
> Frode Petersen
I have done just that with F16 RCx live-cd to hd installation, so it is final.
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job and collect data as well).
Also:
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- man hdparm
# hdparm -I /dev/sd?
...
- $ yum info hddtemp
- Gogle search: linux hard disk temperature
http://www.linuxjournal.com/magazine/monitoring-hard-disks-smart
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pliant file system. Turn off atime and its
very non standards compliant, turn to relatime and its not standards compliant
but nobody will break (which is good)
..."
I assume he was talking POSIX ? Standards (file systems) test suites ?
Btw, is that comment still valid, and also for ext4 ?
Is
nce, Clemens
Unfortunately there are apps that may act incorrectly, either with noatime or
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Possible examples: procmail, mutt, mailx, perhaps few more known and unknown
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PackageKit.
It should not be in it in the first place.
It has been discussed on the list at time of F13 and rejected by users.
I have reported it to PackageKit devs a year ago.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=641311
Result ?
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On Abstinence
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngiJhmoFKk
:0.6.12-4.fc14
Complete!
#
$ dmesh --help
bash: /usr/libexec/pk-command-not-found: No such file or directory
$
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ead this stuff >
...
The app
===
Because you indicated that you get debug messages up to the moment of lockup,
if you have access to source code you could try to locate the last debug msg
place, or from your gdb session, and try narrow the place or logic where it
happens.
It is q
edora 14 on x64, but get exactly the same on a f14 i386.
> I'm running the same test on centos-6 x64 just now
>
> Regards
I would say take a look at pertinent info (from another terminal on that
machine):
$ w
$ ps aux |grep -i pts
Threads:
$ ps -eLf |grep -i pts
$ ps axms |grep -i
Marek Piatek kaust.edu.sa> writes:
> ...
> What other things should I consider before upgrading from Fedora 11 to Fedora
> 15 or 16? Thanks!
It is said that where there are two Fedora users there are (at least) three
favorite Fedora choices :-)
Good Luck !
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(request and echo).
They could test the target_ip from their net too.
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Now try *separate* entries:
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# ping -n -c 2 -I source_if target_ip
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order to point to a folder with some git
> projects inside.
>
> any help is welcome.
Search Google: /etc/gitweb.conf /etc/httpd/conf.d/git.conf
e.g.
How To: Install and Configure GitWeb
http://gofedora.com/how-to-install-configure-gitweb/
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ach case, some time must be spent initially
> to figure out how to do things.
> ...
Yes, it applies to every DE, but some are more intuitive than others.
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Terry Barnaby beam.ltd.uk> writes:
> ...
> Anyway a test with local nfs:
> time tar -xf /tmp/jpgraph-3.5.0b1.tar
> real3m27.320s
> ...
Do it for both, NFS v3 and v4. It may provide an additional regression case.
Filing BZ report will get you some answer from an NFS dev
this as well:
to test by eliminating a possible problem with network, you could perform NFS
tests (as above) locally (on your client machine in question), that is,
install NFS server and client software locally, export some dir locally, and
mount the exported dir locally.
That
if instead of
in-place (/data/...) execution of
time tar -xf ...
you first untared your files into non-NFS dir
mkdir -p /tmp/untared
cd /tmp/untared
tar -xf /tmp/jpgraph-3.5.0b1.tar
and then executed
'time cp /tmp/untared/* /data/tmp/'
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inactivity asked to re-authenticate the "from e-mail address"
with them (you have to check you mail; ignoring responses will burn you), even
lose it due to a temporary storage space limit.
So, consider it.
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Guidelines:
o a sense of security because you
> have selinux turned on.
Words of wisdom ... Same here :-)
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id the installation run post-install action and create them ?
If so, is that default open port 22 reflected in the rules there ?
# cat /etc/sysconfig/iptables
# cat /etc/sysconfig/ip6tables
If so, is that also reflected in iptables itself ?
# iptables -n -L -v
Draw conclusions from all of th
lect port 22 and press Apply and then select it and press Apply
> again, nmap finds it open and all is well.However, if I then reboot,
> the port is again closed ! One seems to need to repeat the unselect-Apply/
> select-Apply procedure to get it working again.Is it just me or do o
n I never asked. You used millions of dollars worth of equipment trying
to show me how much smarter than me you are; and you don't know a thing about
how working people make a living - or about cows, for that matter. This is a
herd of sheep. .
Now give me back my dog.
Reproduced wit
ls people "If you disagree with
Lennart then you must hate handicapped people!".
For reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ERAXJj142o
This is their idea of an interaction between devs and users ...
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> so I assume it comes from a new version of NM,
> or possibly some other application.
> Has no-one else seen this?
> ...
You can determine who is the owner (application) of that "password" window.
I can not remember it now, but it was inquired on Fedora users or teste
Tom Horsley gmail.com> writes:
>
> On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:08:32 + (UTC)
> JB wrote:
>
> > People who come up with such idea and design and write a DE like GNOME 3
> > for
> > users across the entire market market spectrum deserve to be put in
> &g
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