Re: list/email -- toppost -- off topic..

2025-04-26 Thread Marco Moock
Am 27.04.2025 um 08:57:05 Uhr schrieb Iosif Fettich: > > You can create your own rulesets for that. Does gmail support + > > addresses? > > Yep. Then use different addresses for different types of service and sort them with local rulesets. -- Gruß Marco Send unsolicited bulk mail to 1745737

list/email -- toppost -- off topic..

2025-04-26 Thread Iosif Fettich
You can create your own rulesets for that. Does gmail support + addresses? Yep. Best, Iosif Fettich -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: about systemd-resolved

2025-04-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/26/25 2:05 PM, François Patte wrote: Le 24/04/2025 à 23:01, Jonathan Billings a écrit : On Apr 24, 2025, at 08:28, François Patte wrote: am a little bit confused about the dns : I have systemd-resolved installed and when I list the content of the package (rpm -ql), I can read on the firs

Re: securing this workstation.

2025-04-26 Thread Marco Moock
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 16:37:38 -0600 home user via users wrote: > I have no services running, as far as I know. I did not install any. Then there is not need for a router, NAT or anything else. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: SELINUX_ERR op=security_compute_sid invalid_context while running /etc/init.d script of my app

2025-04-26 Thread chaitanya singh
Hey. Actually I need to fix this for RHEL8.10 itself. If u've got any suggestion to try, pls give. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: ht

Re: SELINUX_ERR op=security_compute_sid invalid_context while running /etc/init.d script of my app

2025-04-26 Thread chaitanya singh
Hey, Need to fix this on rhel8.10 itself. I'm open to any suggestion. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/e

Re: Curse the login screen!

2025-04-26 Thread Ranjan Maitra via users
On Sat Apr26'25 09:23:00AM, Community Support for Fedora Users wrote: > From: Ranjan Maitra via users > Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2025 09:23:00 -0500 > To: Community support for Fedora users > Cc: Ranjan Maitra > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users > Subject: Re: Curse the login screen! > > O

Re: suppose I remove nvidia card?

2025-04-26 Thread Felix Miata
home user composed on 2025-04-26 16:01 (UTC-0600): > The workstation rebooted fine without the card. No problems so far. So > the CPU does have integrated graphics, which answers Felix and Samuel. > There is one cost: this was a 2-monitor workstation; now it's only one. Why is that? Most comp

Re: securing this workstation.

2025-04-26 Thread home user via users
On 4/25/25 11:22 PM, Tim wrote: On Fri, 2025-04-25 at 18:38 -0600, home user via users wrote: I do need for Firefox, Thunderbird, and dnf to be able to interact with the "outside world" appropriately. I do occasionally need to be able to download or upload things. Beyond those (and maybe other

Re: securing this workstation.

2025-04-26 Thread home user via users
On 4/26/25 5:46 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote: On Apr 26, 2025, at 00:24, David King wrote: As to firewalls: Plugging the workstation directly into the Comcast cable modem puts your computer directly on the internet, where everyone can hack away at it trying to break in. I always put some sor

Re: securing this workstation.

2025-04-26 Thread home user via users
On 4/25/25 10:23 PM, David King wrote: To find out what your ip address is do:    sudo ip addr # ip addr 1: lo: mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo valid_lft foreve

Re: securing this workstation.

2025-04-26 Thread home user via users
On 4/26/25 12:21 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 4/25/25 8:45 PM, home user via users wrote: On 4/25/2025 8:48 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 4/25/25 6:27 PM, home user via users wrote: securing this workstation: part 2. The login screen has 2 named users: 1. a user that Anaconda had me create. 2. "Sup

Re: securing this workstation.

2025-04-26 Thread home user via users
On 4/25/25 11:00 PM, Marco Moock wrote: On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 00:23:50 -0400 David King wrote: Plugging the workstation directly into the Comcast cable modem puts your computer directly on the internet, where everyone can hack away at it trying to break in. This only applies if there is any se

Re: securing this workstation.

2025-04-26 Thread home user via users
On 4/25/25 9:37 PM, Fred wrote: curl ifconfig.me # curl ifconfig.me 2001:558:6040:48:e03d:21b7:9d94:6649 # -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of C

Re: securing this workstation.

2025-04-26 Thread home user via users
On 4/26/25 1:08 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 4/26/25 8:49 AM, home user via users wrote: On 4/25/25 9:33 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 4/25/25 8:28 PM, home user via users wrote: I moved the ethernet cable to my windows box.  windows reports the following; IPv6 address:    2001:558:6040:48:787f:89

Re: securing this workstation.

2025-04-26 Thread home user via users
On 4/25/25 7:02 PM, George N. White III wrote: On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 9:38 PM home user via users mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org>> wrote: (Fedora-42; stand-alone workstation) This is a totally new Fedora install on a stand-alone workstation, done today.  It is not a part of

Re: suppose I remove nvidia card?

2025-04-26 Thread home user via users
On 4/26/25 10:22 AM, home user via users wrote: (F-42 stand-alone workstation; gnome) good morning, My F-42 workstation had 21 mixed crashes in a few hours late yesterday, and more in a matter of minutes just a few minutes ago. It was installed yesterday afternoon.  It's practically unusable.

Re: why is a reboot needed before upgrading?

2025-04-26 Thread Barry
> On 26 Apr 2025, at 17:12, Ranjan Maitra via users > wrote: > > But the question was on why, not what which is also clear in the instructions. > It is not just the kernel that may have changed but also a reboot ensures all services are running up to date code. By rebooting you place the s

Re: about systemd-resolved

2025-04-26 Thread François Patte
Le 24/04/2025 à 23:01, Jonathan Billings a écrit : On Apr 24, 2025, at 08:28, François Patte wrote: am a little bit confused about the dns : I have systemd-resolved installed and when I list the content of the package (rpm -ql), I can read on the first line: /etc/systemd/resolved.conf But th

Re: why is a reboot needed before upgrading?

2025-04-26 Thread Ranjan Maitra via users
On Sat Apr26'25 10:05:22AM, Doug Herr wrote: > From: Doug Herr > Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2025 10:05:22 -0700 > To: Fedora Users > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users > Subject: Re: why is a reboot needed before upgrading? > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2025, at 7:53 AM, Marco Moock wrote: > > If you ar

Re: suppose I remove nvidia card?

2025-04-26 Thread Felix Miata
home user composed on 2025-04-26 13:09 (UTC-0600): > Felix Miata wrote: >> Is the whole computer 12 years old? If it is, the activities causing >> crashing may >> be loading a failing PSU beyond its reduced remaining capability. Assuming >> the PC >> has an iGPU, removing the GTX may buy you so

Re: Fedora 41->42 hangs at 31% done

2025-04-26 Thread richard emberson
Back on 4/20 I tested the top 6.5 Gbs of the 8 Gbs on the system using /bin/memtester and that passed. Not knowing if my system would even come up if I tried to reboot, I decided to wait until I had to reboot. I saw post stating that be easiest way to fix a failed upgrade is to re-install - I'd

Re: Reboot for upgrade

2025-04-26 Thread Doug H.
On Sat, Apr 26, 2025, at 11:20 AM, Frank Elsner via users wrote: > Hi community, > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/upgrading-fedora-offline/ > > recommends "dnf system-upgrade reboot" but after > > dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=42 the output states "dnf5 > offline re

Re: suppose I remove nvidia card?

2025-04-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/26/25 9:22 AM, home user via users wrote: (F-42 stand-alone workstation; gnome) good morning, My F-42 workstation had 21 mixed crashes in a few hours late yesterday, and more in a matter of minutes just a few minutes ago. It was installed yesterday afternoon.  It's practically unusable.

Re: Reboot for upgrade

2025-04-26 Thread Doug H.
On Sat, Apr 26, 2025, at 12:14 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > "dnf system-upgrade reboot" was used in dnf4 and earlier. > > After running dnf system-upgrade download you'll get an additional prompt to > do "dnf5 offline reboot". That's what I did, but I'm fairly certain that > either command wi

Re: Reboot for upgrade

2025-04-26 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Frank Elsner via users writes: Hi community, https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/upgrading-fedora-offline/ recommends "dnf system-upgrade reboot" but after dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=42 the output states "dnf5 offline reboot" to perform the upgrade. What's th c

Re: suppose I remove nvidia card?

2025-04-26 Thread home user via users
On 4/26/2025 12:40 PM, Felix Miata wrote: home user composed on 2025-04-26 10:22 (UTC-0600): (F-42 stand-alone workstation; gnome) My F-42 workstation had 21 mixed crashes in a few hours late yesterday, and more in a matter of minutes just a few minutes ago. It was installed yesterday afterno

Re: securing this workstation.

2025-04-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/26/25 8:49 AM, home user via users wrote: On 4/25/25 9:33 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 4/25/25 8:28 PM, home user via users wrote: I moved the ethernet cable to my windows box.  windows reports the following; IPv6 address:    2001:558:6040:48:787f:8998:f490:f5d3 Link-local IPv6 address:   

Reboot for upgrade

2025-04-26 Thread Frank Elsner via users
Hi community, https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/upgrading-fedora-offline/ recommends "dnf system-upgrade reboot" but after dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=42 the output states "dnf5 offline reboot" to perform the upgrade. What's th correct command to use? Happy week

Re: suppose I remove nvidia card?

2025-04-26 Thread Felix Miata
home user composed on 2025-04-26 10:22 (UTC-0600): > (F-42 stand-alone workstation; gnome) > My F-42 workstation had 21 mixed crashes in a few hours late yesterday, > and more in a matter of minutes just a few minutes ago. It was installed > yesterday afternoon.  It's practically unusable. I'm

Re: suppose I remove nvidia card?

2025-04-26 Thread home user via users
On 4/26/2025 10:45 AM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 12:23 PM home user via users wrote: Before starting this experiment, the top 3 things that were crashing were Thunderbird, Firefox, and gnome; there were other things.  Some crashes took me back to the graphical login scre

Re: why is a reboot needed before upgrading?

2025-04-26 Thread Doug Herr
On Sat, Apr 26, 2025, at 7:53 AM, Marco Moock wrote: > If you are running an outdated kernel, you should reboot the current one > to be able to properly remove the old kernel during the upgrade. Just to clear this up... I think this is not actually correct (maybe part of the issue Rajan was havin

Re: list/email -- toppost -- off topic..

2025-04-26 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Jeffrey Walton writes: On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 7:57 AM Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > A brief search finds several implementations of OTP on top of SASL. There's > your MFA for SMTP, IMAP, and POP3. You're welcome. From RFC 9051, Section 6.2.2. AUTHENTICATE Command,

Re: suppose I remove nvidia card?

2025-04-26 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 12:23 PM home user via users wrote: > > (F-42 stand-alone workstation; gnome) > > good morning, > > My F-42 workstation had 21 mixed crashes in a few hours late yesterday, > and more in a matter of minutes just a few minutes ago. It was installed > yesterday afternoon. It'

Re: why is a reboot needed before upgrading?

2025-04-26 Thread Ranjan Maitra via users
On Sat Apr26'25 09:28:42AM, Doug H. wrote: > From: "Doug H." > Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2025 09:28:42 -0700 > To: Fedora Users > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users > Subject: Re: why is a reboot needed before upgrading? > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2025, at 7:51 AM, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote: > >

Re: why is a reboot needed before upgrading?

2025-04-26 Thread Doug H.
On Sat, Apr 26, 2025, at 7:51 AM, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote: > According to the first step here > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/upgrading-fedora-offline/ > > a reboot is needed before proceeding with the upgrade. Just curious why? Another reason is to verify that your syst

[suspended] Re: securing this workstation.

2025-04-26 Thread home user via users
As I mentioned in a new thread ("suppose I remove nvidia card"), the workstation is practically unusable.  Once that's solved, I'll return to this thread. I thank all who have tried to help so far. On 4/25/2025 6:38 PM, home user via users wrote: (Fedora-42; stand-alone workstation) This is

suppose I remove nvidia card?

2025-04-26 Thread home user via users
(F-42 stand-alone workstation; gnome) good morning, My F-42 workstation had 21 mixed crashes in a few hours late yesterday, and more in a matter of minutes just a few minutes ago. It was installed yesterday afternoon.  It's practically unusable. I'm now on a windows-10 box (separate hardware,

Re: why is a reboot needed before upgrading?

2025-04-26 Thread Roger Heflin
The answer is that is they way it is suggested to be done and/or the way that it was tested. If you do not stand on one leg facing south under a full moon when doing it then that is not a "supported" path. Most software vendors do it this way, and if anything goes wrong will blame that on some t

Re: why is a reboot needed before upgrading?

2025-04-26 Thread Ranjan Maitra via users
On Sat Apr26'25 08:31:31AM, Doug H. wrote: > From: "Doug H." > Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2025 08:31:31 -0700 > To: Fedora Users > CC: Ranjan Maitra > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users > Subject: Re: why is a reboot needed before upgrading? > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2025, at 8:27 AM, Ranjan Maitra

Re: securing this workstation.

2025-04-26 Thread home user via users
On 4/25/25 9:33 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 4/25/25 8:28 PM, home user via users wrote: I moved the ethernet cable to my windows box.  windows reports the following; IPv6 address:    2001:558:6040:48:787f:8998:f490:f5d3 Link-local IPv6 address:    fe80::805:cbe5:bc94:2edd%2 IPv4 address:    73.

Re: why is a reboot needed before upgrading?

2025-04-26 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 09:51:03 -0500, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote: > According to the first step here > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/upgrading-fedora-offline/ > > a reboot is needed before proceeding with the upgrade. Just curious > why? As it is an older feature, there a

Re: why is a reboot needed before upgrading?

2025-04-26 Thread Marco Moock
Am 26.04.2025 um 10:27:21 Uhr schrieb Ranjan Maitra via users: > Does not the current kernel keep running until there is a reboot? It does. > Yes, I know it is recommended to reboot with a kernel update but my > desktop and server run for months before a reboot. An upgrade needs a reboot anywa

Re: why is a reboot needed before upgrading?

2025-04-26 Thread Doug H.
On Sat, Apr 26, 2025, at 8:27 AM, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote: > Anyway, it is still not clear to me why the reboot is needed before an > upgrade as per the instructions. What happens if this is not done? It will continue to be the same basic answer no matter how many times you ask. It is wise

Re: why is a reboot needed before upgrading?

2025-04-26 Thread Ranjan Maitra via users
On Sat Apr26'25 05:07:46PM, Marco Moock wrote: > From: Marco Moock > Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2025 17:07:46 +0200 > To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users > Subject: Re: why is a reboot needed before upgrading? > > Am 26.04.2025 um 10:01:59 Uhr schrieb Ranjan M

Re: securing this workstation.

2025-04-26 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2025-04-26 at 16:08 +0200, Marco Moock wrote: > Most of those devices have an IPv6 SPI firewall that provides the same > security as NAT. I shall be pedantic here. NAT does not provide security, it is not a firewall. A "didn't know what to do with an incoming connection" (now) is not the

why is a reboot needed before upgrading?

2025-04-26 Thread Ranjan Maitra via users
According to the first step here https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/upgrading-fedora-offline/ a reboot is needed before proceeding with the upgrade. Just curious why? In the past, I did not reboot for days, but it did not matter and things went smoothly for the upgrade. Many th

Re: why is a reboot needed before upgrading?

2025-04-26 Thread Marco Moock
Am 26.04.2025 um 10:01:59 Uhr schrieb Ranjan Maitra via users: > Thank you for your explanation. I am just trying to understand: why > does it matter? I am currently running 6.13.9 but the latest > installed is 6.14.3. Aren't either of these going to be ignored when > the upgrade happens anyway?

Re: why is a reboot needed before upgrading?

2025-04-26 Thread Ranjan Maitra via users
On Sat Apr26'25 04:53:50PM, Marco Moock wrote: > From: Marco Moock > Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2025 16:53:50 +0200 > To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users > Subject: Re: why is a reboot needed before upgrading? > > Am 26.04.2025 um 09:51:03 Uhr schrieb Ranjan M

Re: why is a reboot needed before upgrading?

2025-04-26 Thread Marco Moock
Am 26.04.2025 um 09:51:03 Uhr schrieb Ranjan Maitra via users: > a reboot is needed before proceeding with the upgrade. Just curious > why? If you are running an outdated kernel, you should reboot the current one to be able to properly remove the old kernel during the upgrade. -- Gruß Marco S

Re: list/email -- toppost -- off topic..

2025-04-26 Thread bruce
On Sat, Apr 26, 2025, 8:20 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > On Sat, 26 Apr 2025, 13:04 bruce, wrote: > >> hi Johnathan. >> >> did a quick test. gmail from android phone. saw the 3 dots at the >> end.. when selecting, the thread is displayed. but appears to be in >> > > You mean like this?

Re: Curse the login screen!

2025-04-26 Thread Ranjan Maitra via users
On Fri Apr25'25 11:09:42PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > From: Samuel Sieb > Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2025 23:09:42 -0700 > To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users > Subject: Re: Curse the login screen! > > On 4/25/25 10:20 PM, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote: > > I use s

Re: list/email -- toppost -- off topic..

2025-04-26 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2025-04-26 at 06:31 -0400, bruce wrote: > I'm using gmail, so recently, I had a few spare mins, and decided to > check out.. can gmail permit the insertion of "content/comments" > within a email thread.. > > as opposed to hitting "reply" and letting the app place the comment > wherever it

Re: securing this workstation.

2025-04-26 Thread Marco Moock
Am 26.04.2025 um 07:46:00 Uhr schrieb Jonathan Billings: > As a Comcast customer, it’s actually a pain to get a modem that is > just that. Most consumers get a modem/gateway/wifi AP by default, > which should put the user behind an ipv4 NAT. However, it usually > also gives you a public ipv6 addr

Re: list/email -- toppost -- off topic..

2025-04-26 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 7:57 AM Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > Jeffrey Walton writes: > > > One of the most important reasons I use Gmail is because it supports > > multi-factor authentication (mfa). MFA is great at helping keeping an > > account secure. Consider, the IETF has never updated SMPT, IMAP

Re: list/email -- toppost -- off topic..

2025-04-26 Thread Marco Moock
Am 26.04.2025 um 09:38:41 Uhr schrieb Neal Becker: > I wish I could use an alternative interface to gmail, such as > thunderbird. Gmail supports IMAP, either with an app password or with OAuth. > Problem is, gmail has a really useful way of labeling mail into > e.g., promotions, social, forums,.

Re: list/email -- toppost -- off topic..

2025-04-26 Thread Neal Becker
On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 9:25 AM Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2025, 2:04 PM bruce wrote: > >> hi Johnathan. >> >> did a quick test. gmail from android phone. saw the 3 dots at the >> end.. when selecting, the thread is displayed. but appears to be in a >> block that can't be

Re: list/email -- toppost -- off topic..

2025-04-26 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, Apr 26, 2025, 2:04 PM bruce wrote: > hi Johnathan. > > did a quick test. gmail from android phone. saw the 3 dots at the end.. > when selecting, the thread is displayed. but appears to be in a block that > can't be manipulated. > Works here. -- ___

Re: list/email -- toppost -- off topic..

2025-04-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025, 13:04 bruce, wrote: > hi Johnathan. > > did a quick test. gmail from android phone. saw the 3 dots at the end.. > when selecting, the thread is displayed. but appears to be in > You mean like this? a block that can't be manipulated. has solid left side lines that show >

Re: list/email -- toppost -- off topic..

2025-04-26 Thread Marco Moock
Am 26.04.2025 um 07:07:49 Uhr schrieb bruce: > well.. I think your using the bully term is most appropriate! but > not too welcoming if u want linux to spread to others! but im not > trying to fight that battle.. the world is wy too screwed up > for that! If those people don't want to

Re: list/email -- toppost -- off topic..

2025-04-26 Thread Marco Moock
Am 26.04.2025 um 07:52:08 Uhr schrieb Jonathan Billings: > For what it’s worth, I like using my iPad to read and reply to email, > and every single time I post I have to copy my signature from the top > of the message and paste it at the bottom, trim excessive quoted > text, and general make it a

Re: list/email -- toppost -- off topic..

2025-04-26 Thread Marco Moock
Am 26.04.2025 um 07:19:45 Uhr schrieb Jeffrey Walton: > One of the most important reasons I use Gmail is because it supports > multi-factor authentication (mfa). MFA is great at helping keeping an > account secure. Consider, the IETF has never updated SMPT, IMAP or POP > to include MFA workflows.

Re: list/email -- toppost -- off topic..

2025-04-26 Thread bruce
hi Johnathan. did a quick test. gmail from android phone. saw the 3 dots at the end.. when selecting, the thread is displayed. but appears to be in a block that can't be manipulated. has solid left side lines that show indentation thread segments. hmmm... On Sat, Apr 26, 2025, 7:52 AM Jonat

Re: securing this workstation.

2025-04-26 Thread George N. White III
On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 10:38 PM home user via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > I lost ***all*** my notes. How do I determine this workstation's IP > address (presumably set by comcast, my internet service provider)? > For online forums it is best to use a terminal so you get tex

Re: list/email -- toppost -- off topic..

2025-04-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2025-04-26 at 07:30 -0400, bruce wrote: > thanks.   as far as I can tell.  and it could be user err!!  one can reply > at top  or end.   I haven't found a way within a msg to insert comments at > a given point of a thread?  let me know if there's a way! I use Gmail via IMAP for mailing lis

Re: list/email -- toppost -- off topic..

2025-04-26 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Jeffrey Walton writes: One of the most important reasons I use Gmail is because it supports multi-factor authentication (mfa). MFA is great at helping keeping an account secure. Consider, the IETF has never updated SMPT, IMAP or POP to include MFA workflows. Neither SMTP, or IMAP, or POP3, wil

Re: list/email -- toppost -- off topic..

2025-04-26 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Apr 26, 2025, at 07:30, bruce wrote: > hi Jeff. > > thanks. as far as I can tell. and it could be user err!! one can reply at > top or end. I haven't found a way within a msg to insert comments at a > given point of a thread? let me know if there's a way! > > thanks > I use gmail f

Re: securing this workstation.

2025-04-26 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Apr 26, 2025, at 00:24, David King wrote: > As to firewalls: > > Plugging the workstation directly into the Comcast cable modem puts your > computer directly on the internet, where everyone can hack away at it trying > to break in. I always put some sort of router in between the cable modem

Re: list/email -- toppost -- off topic..

2025-04-26 Thread bruce
hi Jeff. thanks. as far as I can tell. and it could be user err!! one can reply at top or end. I haven't found a way within a msg to insert comments at a given point of a thread? let me know if there's a way! thanks On Sat, Apr 26, 2025, 7:20 AM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Sat, Apr 26,

Re: list/email -- toppost -- off topic..

2025-04-26 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 6:35 AM Marco Moock wrote: > > Am 26.04.2025 um 06:31:51 Uhr schrieb bruce: > > > every now and then a thread will evolve, with multiple inputs over > > time. > > > > in some cases, someone will "say" -- don't top post! > > Top-posting is annoying because the content is not

Re: list/email -- toppost -- off topic..

2025-04-26 Thread bruce
well.. I think your using the bully term is most appropriate! but not too welcoming if u want linux to spread to others! but im not trying to fight that battle.. the world is wy too screwed up for that! thanks On Sat, Apr 26, 2025, 6:48 AM Marco Moock wrote: > Am 26.04.2025 um 06:45

Re: list/email -- toppost -- off topic..

2025-04-26 Thread bruce
Sorry.. that's not happening.. gmail will continue to be used.. in fact, it's used by quite a few people around the world. i get what you're saying though.. On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 6:35 AM Marco Moock wrote: > Am 26.04.2025 um 06:31:51 Uhr schrieb bruce: > > > every now and then a thread will

Re: list/email -- toppost -- off topic..

2025-04-26 Thread Marco Moock
Am 26.04.2025 um 06:45:15 Uhr schrieb bruce: > Sorry.. that's not happening.. > > gmail will continue to be used.. in fact, it's used by quite a few > people around the world. Most of them don't take part in mailing lists. If they do, they might get bullied away as others (especially "grey-beard

Re: list/email -- toppost -- off topic..

2025-04-26 Thread Marco Moock
Am 26.04.2025 um 06:31:51 Uhr schrieb bruce: > every now and then a thread will evolve, with multiple inputs over > time. > > in some cases, someone will "say" -- don't top post! Top-posting is annoying because the content is not at the right place. This is essential especially for longer discus

list/email -- toppost -- off topic..

2025-04-26 Thread bruce
Hey.. long time lurker. every now and then a thread will evolve, with multiple inputs over time. in some cases, someone will "say" -- don't top post! I'm using gmail, so recently, I had a few spare mins, and decided to check out.. can gmail permit the insertion of "content/comments" within a em