On Sat Apr26'25 10:05:22AM, Doug Herr wrote: > From: Doug Herr <fedoraproject....@wombatz.com> > Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2025 10:05:22 -0700 > To: Fedora Users <users@lists.fedoraproject.org> > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users <users@lists.fedoraproject.org> > Subject: Re: why is a reboot needed before upgrading? > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2025, at 7:53 AM, Marco Moock wrote: > > If you are running an outdated kernel, you should reboot the current one > > to be able to properly remove the old kernel during the upgrade. > > Just to clear this up... > > I think this is not actually correct (maybe part of the issue Ranjan was > having). >
Right, what you say below was my question. > > The upgrade is done "offline", meaning that it is done early in a reboot. > So... > > 1. Run for days or weeks. > 2. Do a regular update which adds a new kernel. > 3. Do your Fedora version update without bothering to reboot. > 4. Last step of that upgrade (before it applies the packages) is a "special" > reboot. > > The reboot that is used to get to the "offline" state where it applies the > packages will actually use that new kernel that you installed in step 2. So > it should then be able to remove your oldest kernel during the process. > > The trouble is that you had not rebooted to verify that that new kernel > actually runs on your system. If it does not then you might have a failure > during the upgrade reboot. > > Bottom line is back to the simple "best practice" of getting to a fully > updated and *reboot* tested state before you do a full version upgrade. > -- Thanks very much for this response and clarification! I decided to reboot before the upgrade just in case. However, since I use an X-server (slim for login and openbox for WM), my upgrade resulted in a broken system (unable to get a login screen or a text console). So I went back to F41 for now in order to first investigate the problem. Best wishes, Ranjan > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue -- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
