Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-06 Thread Charles Zeitler
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 6:20 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > would you PLEASE send replies only back to the > list and ONLY to ONE incarnation of this list > > > are _you_ talkin' to _me_ ? charles zeitler Love is the law, love under will. -- users

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/07/2012 08:28 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 04/06/2012 04:43 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> Wow, you*really* don't know anything about how to run an email*server* to >> service >> *incoming* email for domains. > > Which is why I've no intention of running one. And why it has been suggested that you

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/06/2012 05:48 PM, Edward M wrote: On 04/06/2012 03:03 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: If you're only running an SMTP server, that's not an issue It is an issue if it is a open mail relay. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_relay Yes, I've known what an open relay is for at least fifteen years. Th

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Edward M
On 04/06/2012 03:03 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: If you're only running an SMTP server, that's not an issue It is an issue if it is a open mail relay. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_relay -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/06/2012 04:43 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Wow, you*really* don't know anything about how to run an email*server* to service *incoming* email for domains. Which is why I've no intention of running one. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/06/2012 03:15 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: but the topic is not about your home machine the topic is about a mailserver (the ones receive emails for their users) Yes, but I was thinking in terms of an SMTP server, not a complete mail server. That's why I was making the suggestions I did. T

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/07/2012 05:50 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > I'm talking about closing incoming connections from the Internet on Port 25, > not > outbound. Of course, depending on your ISP you might not be able to connect > to > other servers on Port 25 when sending mail, but that's not what I was > referring to.

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.04.2012 00:03, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 04/06/2012 02:54 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> if you are runnaing an MX you MUST accept incoming port 25 >> from the internet or how do you imagine you receive new mails >> from the world? > > If you're only running an SMTP server, that's not an issue.

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/06/2012 02:54 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: if you are runnaing an MX you MUST accept incoming port 25 from the internet or how do you imagine you receive new mails from the world? If you're only running an SMTP server, that's not an issue. If, and only if you're providing POP3 or IMAP, I'd

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.04.2012 23:50, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 04/06/2012 02:34 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> You seem to have 0 knowledge of how server to server email works. Please do >> some >> work to understand what actually transpires before you advise people. > > I'm talking about closing incoming connections f

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/06/2012 02:34 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: You seem to have 0 knowledge of how server to server email works. Please do some work to understand what actually transpires before you advise people. I'm talking about closing incoming connections from the Internet on Port 25, not outbound. Of cour

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/07/2012 12:44 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 04/06/2012 09:31 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> So, it would seem that this system is going to be accepting incoming mails >> from the >> internet for at least one domain.. In that case it would be bad advice >> to simply >> close port 25. > > Not if he

Re: F17 beta & btrfs

2012-04-06 Thread Frank Murphy
On 06/04/12 19:59, gaelic wrote: Hello. I know that anaconda is having a bug in terms of installing to btrfs Partitions and btrfs is generally disabled for now. Anybody knows if a installation to btrfs is possible if it already exists? Greetings, C Please check with the testlist. https://adm

F17 beta & btrfs

2012-04-06 Thread gaelic
Hello. I know that anaconda is having a bug in terms of installing to btrfs Partitions and btrfs is generally disabled for now. Anybody knows if a installation to btrfs is possible if it already exists? Greetings, C -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change su

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2012-04-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/06/2012 11:32 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak up and remove all doubt." -- Attributed to many different authors True, but it's not even close to what I wrote. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedor

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/06/2012 11:22 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: so in my opinion if someone thinks "hey, i read some howtos and in two weeks my server is production ready" he makes a terrible mistake This reminds me of something that happened over a dozen years ago, when I was doing tech support for an ISP. I t

Re: Wired vs (bad) Wireless communications speeds

2012-04-06 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/06/2012 07:07 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 06:26, Philip Rhoades wrote: Anyone know why the wireless performance is not better than this? Because wireless sucks?. Your other hardware specs don´t matter. Speed will be as good as the worst piece of string. In that s

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/06/2012 03:56 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 06.04.2012 09:28, schrieb Rafiqul Islam: My question is too many unknown user sending mail using my MTA(Postfix) so that hotmail,google reject mail from my domain(mail.navigation.com and IP:202.53.168.75) and i don

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2012-04-06 Thread Rick Stevens
On 04/06/2012 11:21 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/06/2012 10:57 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: Well the e-mail had no subject in the first place, without one I generally don't open it. True, but sometimes a newbie forgets. And, of course, there's always the people who quote an entire message and forget t

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/06/2012 11:12 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: Getting blacklisted because you build an open relay is stupid, but nothing changes practice more and faster than adverse anecdote :-) Yup! I'm retired, so time isn't the issue. However, as there are only three people with email addresses at this dom

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.04.2012 20:12, schrieb Heinz Diehl: > On 06.04.2012, Joe Zeff wrote: > >> I have, a few times, considered setting up a mailserver of my own for my >> domain so that even when I was away from home all mail went through it. >> Every time I have, I've decided against it for exactly that reas

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2012-04-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/06/2012 10:57 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: Well the e-mail had no subject in the first place, without one I generally don't open it. True, but sometimes a newbie forgets. And, of course, there's always the people who quote an entire message and forget to add anything of their own to it befo

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 06.04.2012, Joe Zeff wrote: > I have, a few times, considered setting up a mailserver of my own for my > domain so that even when I was away from home all mail went through it. > Every time I have, I've decided against it for exactly that reason. If more > people did the same, we'd not have as

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2012-04-06 Thread Terry Polzin
On Fri, 2012-04-06 at 10:50 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 04/06/2012 10:20 AM, Adam Tong wrote: > > http://encuadredigital.com/fotografia/include/rmngl.html > > > > > > > > This url redirects to a spam site for working at home. Don't bother > going there. Well the e-mail had no subject in the fir

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2012-04-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/06/2012 10:20 AM, Adam Tong wrote: http://encuadredigital.com/fotografia/include/rmngl.html This url redirects to a spam site for working at home. Don't bother going there. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://adm

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2012-04-06 Thread Adam Tong
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Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/06/2012 09:51 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: public servers have to be tested and secured before they see the first time internet connections and by the hugeh damage open relays are doing all over the world this is the most important rule for mailservices I have, a few times, considered setting

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.04.2012 18:38, schrieb Heinz Diehl: > On 06.04.2012, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> anybody out there must not open port 25 from the internet >> becuase he was able to type "yum install postfix" > > In this case, one must indeed have opened port 25 manually, since "yum > install postfix" does

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.04.2012 18:44, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 04/06/2012 09:31 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> So, it would seem that this system is going to be accepting incoming mails >> from the >> internet for at least one domain.. In that case it would be bad advice >> to simply >> close port 25. > > Not if

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/06/2012 09:31 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: So, it would seem that this system is going to be accepting incoming mails from the internet for at least one domain.. In that case it would be bad advice to simply close port 25. Not if he uses smtpauth on port 587. Granted, telling him only to

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 06.04.2012, Reindl Harald wrote: > anybody out there must not open port 25 from the internet > becuase he was able to type "yum install postfix" In this case, one must indeed have opened port 25 manually, since "yum install postfix" does not install any postfix configuration which has port 25

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/07/2012 12:03 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > Close incoming Port 25 and tell sendmail to accept mail only from 127.0.0.0. > HTH, > HAND. First of all, he has already stated that he is using Postfix, not sendmail. Second, you should not assume that closing port 25 is an option. Indeed, if you

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/06/2012 12:28 AM, Rafiqul Islam wrote: My question is too many unknown user sending mail using my MTA(Postfix) so that hotmail,google reject mail from my domain(mail.navigation.com and IP:202.53.168.75) and i don't know how to stop this unexpected outgoing mail

Re: Accessing Logged in Users Account over VNC

2012-04-06 Thread R. Welsh
On Fri, 2012-04-06 at 15:49 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 06.04.2012 15:41, schrieb R. Welsh: > > I have used X11VNC Server for just this task. It provides an easy to > > use GUI we well as port definition control, password control, etc. You > > might give this a shot. > > no need for this

Re: Which one is the best, restore grub load or reinstall 64bit Fedora 16

2012-04-06 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2012-04-06 at 11:33 +0800, yujian wrote: > My notebook is updated to 8G memory, and I reinstall a Win7-64bits > system, so the grub info of F16 is lost. > Now I need to restore the grub load info of F16, or reinstall F16 > 64-bits version. I do not know how many difference of 32-bits and

RE: Wired vs (bad) Wireless communications speeds

2012-04-06 Thread Alan J. Gagne
Between my laptop and my server there is a WiFi modem and an ADSL router and I think the comms is too slow. The device speed for each is: Server: Intel 82567LF Gigabit: 10/100/1000 Mb/s Belkin Wireless F5D7230-4v7: 10/100 Mb/s Belkin ModemRouter F1PI241ENau: 10/100 Mb/s Asus Z

Re: Wired vs (bad) Wireless communications speeds

2012-04-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2012-04-06 at 19:26 +1000, Philip Rhoades wrote: > People, > > Between my laptop and my server there is a WiFi modem and an ADSL > router and I think the comms is too slow. The device speed for each is: > >Server: Intel 82567LF Gigabit: 10/100/1000 Mb/s > >Belkin Wireless F5D72

Re: Accessing Logged in Users Account over VNC

2012-04-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.04.2012 15:41, schrieb R. Welsh: > I have used X11VNC Server for just this task. It provides an easy to > use GUI we well as port definition control, password control, etc. You > might give this a shot. no need for this "yum install tigervnc-server-module" and configure X11 to provide a

Re: Accessing Logged in Users Account over VNC

2012-04-06 Thread R. Welsh
On Fri, 2012-04-06 at 14:26 +0100, Aero Maxx wrote: > Hello, > > Not sure if this is possible, have tried it and I dont seem to get what > I was expecting. > > Basically I have installed tigervnc on fedora 15 and it works, it lets > me connect do what I wanted to do and then can disconnect, but

Accessing Logged in Users Account over VNC

2012-04-06 Thread Aero Maxx
Hello, Not sure if this is possible, have tried it and I dont seem to get what I was expecting. Basically I have installed tigervnc on fedora 15 and it works, it lets me connect do what I wanted to do and then can disconnect, but what I was wondering is if I am logged in already as the user

Re: Which one is the best, restore grub load or reinstall 64bit Fedora 16

2012-04-06 Thread R. Welsh
On Fri, 2012-04-06 at 11:33 +0800, yujian wrote: > My notebook is updated to 8G memory, and I reinstall a Win7-64bits > system, so the grub info of F16 is lost. > Now I need to restore the grub load info of F16, or reinstall F16 > 64-bits version. I do not know how many difference of 32-bits and

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Rafiqul Islam
Thanks for good advice. BR, Rafiq On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Patrick Lists wrote: > On 04/06/2012 06:28 AM, Rafiqul Islam wrote: > >> Please help me how to stop this spamming frequently blocked from several >> public network >> > > From the other posts I take it your postfix server is not

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Patrick Lists
On 04/06/2012 06:28 AM, Rafiqul Islam wrote: Please help me how to stop this spamming frequently blocked from several public network From the other posts I take it your postfix server is not properly configured and is an open relay. Steps to fix: 1) realize that your postfix mail server is

how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-06 Thread Reindl Harald
would you PLEASE send replies only back to the list and ONLY to ONE incarnation of this list everybody receive your messages twice and the people you answer THREE times - this is really a bad mailing-style wasting space and bandwith the first To and the Cc are useless in thunderbird you can even

Re: Wired vs (bad) Wireless communications speeds

2012-04-06 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 06:26, Philip Rhoades wrote: > > Anyone know why the wireless performance is not better than this? Because wireless sucks?. Your other hardware specs don´t matter. Speed will be as good as the worst piece of string. In that setup, it´s your wireless link. Just to test, co

Re: Where can I get a non-netork install DVD for FC16?

2012-04-06 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Bill Davidsen writes: Did your installs by any chance use wifi instead of wired and do networking over that? AFAIK, the installer has no support for wireless, at all. pgpv5XhjVsVm6.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

RE: Wired vs (bad) Wireless communications speeds

2012-04-06 Thread J.Witvliet
-Original Message- From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Philip Rhoades Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 11:26 AM To: Fedora List Subject: Wired vs (bad) Wireless communications speeds People, Between my laptop and my server t

Wired vs (bad) Wireless communications speeds

2012-04-06 Thread Philip Rhoades
People, Between my laptop and my server there is a WiFi modem and an ADSL router and I think the comms is too slow. The device speed for each is: Server: Intel 82567LF Gigabit: 10/100/1000 Mb/s Belkin Wireless F5D7230-4v7: 10/100 Mb/s Belkin ModemRouter F1PI241ENau: 10/100 Mb/s Asu

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.04.2012 09:28, schrieb Rafiqul Islam: > My question is too many unknown user sending mail using my MTA(Postfix) so > that hotmail,google reject mail from my > domain(mail.navigation.com and IP:202.53.168.75) > and i don't know how to stop this > unexpected ou

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/06/2012 03:28 PM, Rafiqul Islam wrote: > My question is too many unknown user sending mail using my MTA(Postfix) so > that > hotmail,google reject mail from my domain(mail.navigation.com > and IP:202.53.168.75) and i don't know how to > stop > this unexpected o

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Reindl Harald
man postqueue man postsuper postsuper -d queue_id postsuper -d 1FFC82D6A0 Am 06.04.2012 09:28, schrieb Rafiqul Islam: > My question is too many unknown user sending mail using my MTA(Postfix) so > that hotmail,google reject mail from my > domain(mail.navigation.com a

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/06/2012 03:28 PM, Rafiqul Islam wrote: > My question is too many unknown user sending mail using my MTA(Postfix) so > that > hotmail,google reject mail from my domain(mail.navigation.com > and IP:202.53.168.75) and i don't know how to > stop > this unexpected o

Re: huge mail going throw my mail server how to protect

2012-04-06 Thread Rafiqul Islam
My question is too many unknown user sending mail using my MTA(Postfix) so that hotmail,google reject mail from my domain(mail.navigation.com and IP:202.53.168.75) and i don't know how to stop this unexpected outgoing mail. On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 04/06/2012 12: