Re: Private: to mods and forum owners...

On 12/08/2011 10:04 PM, David wrote: > Please don't feed the Trolls. :-) http://www.zeff.trollz.png may be appropriate under the circumstances. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/use

Re: Gnome Shell x Network Manager crash

On 12/08/2011 06:15 PM, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote: > You should be used to typo erros on the net and be tolerant and polite about > then. Maybe you forgot your own surname (see the "From:" on your past > messages) is "Zeff" which is just one letter different from "Zeff". > When I was six year

Re: Gnome Shell x Network Manager crash

On 12/08/2011 05:48 PM, Craig White wrote: > I'm using it - seems fine to me. I think what you are responding to is > someone with a proclivity to overreach their knowledge and over-manage > their system and thus draw conclusions as if they were pertinent for > everyone. Actually, I'm reporting on

Re: Unable to get into X

On 12/08/2011 05:46 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Oops, sorry, this will not start GDM, but will start Gnome3 (or whatever DE > you have configured) directly. This is because you are already logged in and > the greeter is not necessary. Always assuming, of course, that I can get the computer to pay

Re: Private: to mods and forum owners...

On 12/8/2011 9:02 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2011-12-07 at 17:52 -0800, Linda McLeod wrote: >> I know I've been a bit of a "pain", but I have reasonable reason.. > > Not for posting this screed, which has *nothing* to do with the purpose > of this list. And "Private"? What's that abo

Stateless IPv6 questions

Hi, I'm kinda new to IPv6 and have a few questions on setting it up. I've set up an IPv6 tunnel on sit1 and I have radvd broadcasting a prefix on em1. My clients are able to generate global IPv6 addresses and ping & browse other sites on the internet. However, I noticed that I have to enter DNS

Re: Thunderbird - Disappearing Characters

On 12/09/2011 12:16 PM, Craig White wrote: >> But, I do hope that all this doesn't result in a tangent to the original >> > question. > > sorry, don't use T-bird and rarely do Chinese, especially 'subject' - > wife is here with me in the US and don't send her much e-mail these days > not to me

Re: Thunderbird - Disappearing Characters

On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 11:54 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 12/09/2011 11:36 AM, Craig White wrote: > > as you can see, I had vastly different perspective > > I'm sorry to hear you weren't as lucky as George > > But, I do hope that all this doesn't result in a tangent to the original > question

Re: Thunderbird - Disappearing Characters

On 12/09/2011 03:54 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 12/09/2011 11:36 AM, Craig White wrote: >> as you can see, I had vastly different perspective > > I'm sorry to hear you weren't as lucky as George > > But, I do hope that all this doesn't result in a tangent to the original > question. lol. i d

Re: Thunderbird - Disappearing Characters

On 12/09/2011 11:36 AM, Craig White wrote: > as you can see, I had vastly different perspective I'm sorry to hear you weren't as lucky as George But, I do hope that all this doesn't result in a tangent to the original question. -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design some

Re: Thunderbird - Disappearing Characters

On 12/09/2011 03:36 AM, Craig White wrote: > On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 11:24 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 12/09/2011 11:18 AM, g wrote: >>> On 12/08/2011 11:03 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Bad formatting The line length of the above examples should have been the same. >>> they are here. >>> >

Re: Unable to get into X

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > A sudden thunk: could it be GDM that's bombing?  Should I remove it and > replace it with KDM or some other login mangler? You could also check /var/log/gdm/ and see if it says anything useful. -T.C. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproj

Re: Thunderbird - Disappearing Characters

On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 11:24 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 12/09/2011 11:18 AM, g wrote: > > On 12/08/2011 11:03 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> Bad formatting The line length of the above examples should have > >> been the same. > > they are here. > > > > > > Glad to hear the line length was equal

Re: Thunderbird - Disappearing Characters

On 12/09/2011 03:24 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 12/09/2011 11:18 AM, g wrote: >> On 12/08/2011 11:03 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> Bad formatting The line length of the above examples should have >>> been the same. >> they are here. >> >> > > Glad to hear the line length was equal for you... ---

Re: Thunderbird - Disappearing Characters

On 12/09/2011 11:18 AM, g wrote: > On 12/08/2011 11:03 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> Bad formatting The line length of the above examples should have >> been the same. > they are here. > > Glad to hear the line length was equal for you... -- A common mistake that people make when trying to desi

Re: Thunderbird - Disappearing Characters

On 12/08/2011 11:03 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 12/09/2011 07:02 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> 101年農會人員考試 11/28~12/2å ±å��ï¼� fmbdugloaf >> >> will read >> >> 10111/28~12/2 ï¼� fmbdugloaf >> >> Restarting TB will restore it. Anyone seeing anything like it? >>

Re: Major upgrade failure -> people maintain > 1 computer

On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 02:36 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 09.12.2011 01:50, schrieb Craig White: > > I manage a lot of networks and always use LDAP for user base and > > typically (but not always) use NFS and for that matter, NFS automounts. > > as said - you are knowing only your small worl

Re: FC16 newbe questions

On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 17:50 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > On 12/08/2011 12:47 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 14:30 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > >> Activate "activities" by putting the mouse into the upper-left corner of > >> the > >> screen. Then you can see a list of

Re: Re: Gnome Shell x Network Manager crash

Hi Joe, >I don't know who you think you're replying to, but it wasn't me. My >name is Joe, not Jeff, and I've been known to flame people to a smoking >cinder for that. This is your (and the list's) one warning... You should be used to typo erros on the net and be tolerant and polite about th

Re: Private: to mods and forum owners...

On Wed, 2011-12-07 at 17:52 -0800, Linda McLeod wrote: > I know I've been a bit of a "pain", but I have reasonable reason.. Not for posting this screed, which has *nothing* to do with the purpose of this list. And "Private"? What's that about? You're posting to a public list. Get over it. If you

Re: A cute CLI trick for emergencies

On 2011/12/08 16:56, Craig White wrote: > On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 09:27 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > >>> And thus the drive is /dev/sdf, with the data partition /dev/sdf1. >>> >>> You may need to scroll back a bit if a lot of stuff is going on in >>> dmesg. >>> >> Great, but could the displaying of

Re: FC16 newbe questions

On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 10:58 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > And which one has that Win2000 look/feel that I kind of grew up with :) > > I probably need to just bite the bullet as at some point the corp system > will go from XP to Win7 and I will be expected to recongnize some things > there...

Re: Re: Gnome Shell x Network Manager crash

On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 16:30 -0200, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > >If you never use wireless, do what I do on my desktop: get rid of > >Network Manager and use network. > > I never had problems with NetworkManager before, I really like it, and I do > use it a lot for 3G internet c

Re: Unable to get into X

On 12/08/2011 05:37 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > This scenario assumes that there are no hardware malfunctions and that the > nVidia driver is working correctly. All this is plausibly true, based on the > Xorg log which reports that both the graphics card and driver are working as > expected. Alas

Re: Unable to get into X

On Friday 09 December 2011 01:37:06 Marko Vojinovic wrote: > In order to debug the above faulty-GDM scenario, try the following: > > * boot into runlevel 3 and login (not as root) > * startx > // this should start X and then GDM, which should fail only once and put you > back into the terminal, ho

Re: Unable to get into X

On Thursday 08 December 2011 14:40:52 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/08/2011 02:05 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > > I guess you'd give it multi-user.target or runlevel3.target if you > > wanted to boot it as a one-off. Also the old runlevel numbers still > > work; you can just add '3' to the kernel arguments and

Re: Major upgrade failure -> people maintain > 1 computer

Am 09.12.2011 01:50, schrieb Craig White: > I manage a lot of networks and always use LDAP for user base and > typically (but not always) use NFS and for that matter, NFS automounts. as said - you are knowing only your small world and will not realize that there other usecases than yours sign

Re: FC16 - moving sshd to another port

On 12/08/2011 08:19 PM, Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 09:26 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> I have always run SSHD on a different port as part of my obfusication. >> Yeah, I know it will not stop good portscanners, but it stops all that >> stupid doorknocking on port 22... > A genuine questi

Re: Unable to get into X

Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> An ignorant question, but do the terms "virtual terminal", "desktop" >> and "virtual desktop" all mean the same thing? > > No, they don't. Virtual terminal is what is also called a text console, > the thing you get into with ctrl-alt-Fn. The "desktop" can mean a lot of >

Re: CMake compile problem

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 6:39 PM, david walcroft wrote: > I'm trying to compile 'k3b-2.0.2.i686' from a tar file but run into this > error:- > > [david@reddwarf build]$ cmake .. > CMake Error at icons/actions/CMakeLists.txt:1 (kde4_install_icons): >  Unknown CMake command "kde4_install_icons". Not

Re: FC16 - moving sshd to another port

On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 09:26 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I have always run SSHD on a different port as part of my obfusication. > Yeah, I know it will not stop good portscanners, but it stops all that > stupid doorknocking on port 22... A genuine question: Does it really matter? -- [tim@loc

Re: Can RedHat get-into an OS to determine an OS's intentional faults via the Net..?

On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 22:25 +0900, 夜神　岩男 wrote: > Can't tell if serious... ? Wondering if they're merely a troll, or a genuinely nuts. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lis

Re: A cute CLI trick for emergencies

On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 09:27 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > And thus the drive is /dev/sdf, with the data partition /dev/sdf1. > > > > You may need to scroll back a bit if a lot of stuff is going on in > > dmesg. > > > Great, but could the displaying of the information be made more obscure?

Re: Major upgrade failure -> people maintain > 1 computer

On Wed, 2011-12-07 at 15:50 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Or, you can be a bit wiser and not use Fedora in a production environment to > begin with. actually untrue... I have used Fedora at a non-profit that I worked with. Maintained our own repository, installed originally from kickstart

Re: Major upgrade failure -> people maintain > 1 computer

On Wed, 2011-12-07 at 14:39 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 07.12.2011 07:50, schrieb Craig White: > > out of curiosity, what is the requirement for having uidNumbers starting > > at 500 instead of 1000? > > because people usually migrate their whole systems from one hardware > to the next and

Re: Major upgrade failure

On Wed, 2011-12-07 at 14:41 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 07.12.2011 09:29, schrieb Craig White: > > On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 23:27 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > >> On 12/06/2011 10:50 PM, Craig White wrote: > >>> out of curiosity, what is the requirement for having uidNumbers starting > >>> at 500 i

CMake compile problem

I'm trying to compile 'k3b-2.0.2.i686' from a tar file but run into this error:- [david@reddwarf build]$ cmake .. CMake Error at icons/actions/CMakeLists.txt:1 (kde4_install_icons): Unknown CMake command "kde4_install_icons". -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred! CMakeLists.txt is att

Re: Weird Audacity behaviour

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 11:36 AM, wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm used to give distance classes using a flash-based webconferencing > software (dimdim, unfortunately became closed source). I usually run > audacity at the same time to record audio so students can download later. > But yesterday audacity

F16: howto make screencast recorder record sound?

Hi, On an F16 x86_64 I was playing with the built-in screencast recorder (turn on/off with Control+Shift+Alt+R). The screen recording works fine except that I can't make it record sound. In Sound Settings -> Input I selected my headset and made sure it was not muted but no sound is record. I t

Re: Unable to get into X

Something new has been added: I decided to try booting again to see if I could get directly into runlevel 3. When I turned my desktop on, the fan was very noisy and it completely ignored the keyboard. I turned it off, unplugged the keyboard, plugged it back in and it did the same thing. It's

Re: Thunderbird - Disappearing Characters

On 12/09/2011 07:02 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > 101年農會人員考試 11/28~12/2報名！ fmbdugloaf > > will read > > 10111/28~12/2 ！ fmbdugloaf > > Restarting TB will restore it. Anyone seeing anything like it? > Bad formatting The line length of the above examples should have bee

Thunderbird - Disappearing Characters

This is very strange and I just want to know if anyone else is seeing it. I'm running TB 8.0 on F15. I've 4 email accounts defined. The system is up 24/7 and I never logout so TB is also always running. After fairly long time, a week or more (haven't kept a log), all the Chinese characters

Re: FC16 newbe questions

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I was under the impression that Gnome's design directive was to follow > Windows look and feel, but not be a slave to it. That's what they wanted you to believe. In fact, any time spent on the gnome devel list revealed that many awful "fe

Re: FC16 newbe questions

On 12/08/2011 12:47 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 14:30 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> Activate "activities" by putting the mouse into the upper-left corner of the >> screen. Then you can see a list of currently open workspaces on the far right >> on the screen, where you ca

Re: Unable to get into X

On 12/08/2011 02:05 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > I guess you'd give it multi-user.target or runlevel3.target if you > wanted to boot it as a one-off. Also the old runlevel numbers still > work; you can just add '3' to the kernel arguments and get runlevel 3. We'll soon know for sure. However, once it'

Re: how do you make Fedora 16 run a script at boot time, was: Fedora 16 black screen with Radeon HD 6470M: partially solved?

Am 08.12.2011 23:16, schrieb M. Fioretti: > On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 23:00:29 PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> if you look in "systemctl list-unis" you find >> prefdm.service loaded active running Display Manager >> >> so make a one-shot service with the right dependency and enable it >> with "s

Re: how do you make Fedora 16 run a script at boot time, was: Fedora 16 black screen with Radeon HD 6470M: partially solved?

On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 23:00:29 PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > if you look in "systemctl list-unis" you find > prefdm.service loaded active running Display Manager > > so make a one-shot service with the right dependency and enable it > with "systemctl enable yourservice.service " > > > /etc/sys

Re: gnome 3

On Thu, 8 Dec 2011 11:31:17 -0500 Chad Kellerman wrote: > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 15:18:59 +, > > Patrick Dupre wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > As many user probably, I prefer the version of gnome 2.x (like the > > > one runnin

Re: using bluetooth and cell phone in Fedora 16

OK, I went and did a fresh install of the LXDE spin on both my 64-bit and older 32-bit laptops. Then updated everything, and installed gnome-bluetooth, and went into gnome-control-center. On the 64-bit machine (Dell Lattitude E5400 or the Thinkpad T61), I get a blank grey window. On the 32-bit De

Re: Unable to get into X

> Em Qui, 2011-12-08 às 12:00 -0800, Joe Zeff escreveu: >> OK, I tried letting it sit there trying to start GDM.  Came back after >> about ten minutes and it had turned itself off in despair.  Before >> trying again, I have two questions. >> >> First, what do I add to the boot parameters to get it

Re: how do you make Fedora 16 run a script at boot time, was: Fedora 16 black screen with Radeon HD 6470M: partially solved?

Am 08.12.2011 22:52, schrieb M. Fioretti: > On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 22:40:11 PM +0100, Marco Fioretti wrote: > >> # >> #! /bin/bash >> >> modprobe radeon >> echo IGD > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch >> echo OFF > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitc

how do you make Fedora 16 run a script at boot time, was: Fedora 16 black screen with Radeon HD 6470M: partially solved?

On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 22:40:11 PM +0100, Marco Fioretti wrote: > # > #! /bin/bash > > modprobe radeon > echo IGD > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch > echo OFF > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch > ##

Re: FC16 newbe questions

On 12/08/2011 04:19 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Thursday 08 December 2011 10:58:27 Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> On 12/08/2011 09:30 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >>> And of course, you can always forgive&forget&switch to XFCE, KDE or >>> LXDE. ;-) >> And which one has that Win2000 look/feel that I k

Re: Fedora 16 black screen with Radeon HD 6470M: partially solved?

On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 20:18:21 PM +0100, Marco Fioretti wrote: > I've got a HP G6 1273SL laptop with this chipset and a live cd of > Fedora 16 x86_64, KDE spin... when I [boot] the screen goes > completely black. > > if I... add to its initrd line the two parameters > > acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlig

Re: gnome 3

Patrick Dupre napsal(a): > Hello, > > As many user probably, I prefer the version of gnome 2.x (like the > one running with fedora 14) to gnome 3. Is there any option to keep > the previous version of gnome runing with the more recent versions of > fedora? > > Thank. Nice solution had when Gnome

Re: A cute CLI trick for emergencies

On 08Dec2011 09:27, Aaron Konstam wrote: | On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 10:34 +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: | > On 07Dec2011 10:44, Joe Zeff wrote: | > | On 12/07/2011 06:18 AM, Robert Nichols wrote: | > | > An issue with both the fdisk and blkid solutions is that they will spin | > | > up every sleepi

Re: gnome 3

On 12/08/2011 06:09 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > That's only delaying the inevitable. The fall back will go away once the > LLVMpipe driver goes in to Fedora 17 or 18. According to Vincent Untz the fall-back mode will be there during the whole Gnome3 life

Re: gnome 3

On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 15:18 +, Patrick Dupre wrote: > Hello, > > As many user probably, I prefer the version of gnome 2.x (like the > one running with fedora 14) to gnome 3. Is there any option to keep > the previous version of gnome runing with the more recent versions of > fedora? > > Than

Re: gnome 3

On 12/08/2011 04:18 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > one running with fedora 14) to gnome 3. Is there any option to keep > the previous version of gnome runing with the more recent versions of > fedora? You could get a Gnome2-like version by doing this in Gnome3 shell: - click on your name in the top r

Re: FC16 newbe questions

On Thursday 08 December 2011 10:58:27 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > On 12/08/2011 09:30 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > And of course, you can always forgive&forget&switch to XFCE, KDE or > > LXDE. ;-) > And which one has that Win2000 look/feel that I kind of grew up with :) If you ask me, try KDE firs

Re: FC16 - moving sshd to another port

On 12/08/2011 02:46 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 12/08/2011 02:39 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> On 12/08/2011 02:12 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: On 12/08/2011 12:14 >> PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Thu, 08 Dec 2011 09:26:31 -0500, RM (Rob

Re: parted gpt on Fedora 16 breaks kickstarts and partition resizing

Old way with fdisk: On 12/07/2011 05:12 PM, Phil Meyer wrote: > > #!/bin/bash > > set -x > > account_id=$1 > if [ -z "$account_id" ] > then > exit -1 > fi > virsh shutdown a${account_id} > sleep 60 > virsh destroy a${account_id} > iscsiadm -m session -R > multipath -r > partprobe /dev/

Re: Unable to get into X

Change the target as shown there: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd#How_do_I_change_the_default_runlevel.3F but i don't know how to do it directly from grub... Em Qui, 2011-12-08 às 12:00 -0800, Joe Zeff escreveu: > OK, I tried letting it sit there trying to start GDM. Came back after > a

Re: Unable to get into X

OK, I tried letting it sit there trying to start GDM. Came back after about ten minutes and it had turned itself off in despair. Before trying again, I have two questions. First, what do I add to the boot parameters to get it to start in a CLI so that I don't have to use the kludge from rescu

Re: Historical Question - dracut

On 12/08/2011 11:01 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: >> What was the command used prior to dracut? > mkinitrd Thanks Michael, Bryn, Marko, John, Antonio, and 夜神 岩男! -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate th

Re: FC16 - moving sshd to another port

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/08/2011 02:39 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > On 12/08/2011 02:12 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: On 12/08/2011 12:14 > PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 08 Dec 2011 09:26:31 -0500, RM (Robert) wrote: > I have always run SSHD on a differ

Re: FC16 - moving sshd to another port

On 12/08/2011 02:12 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 12/08/2011 12:14 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> On Thu, 08 Dec 2011 09:26:31 -0500, RM (Robert) wrote: >> >>> I have always run SSHD on a different port as part of my >>> obfusication. Yeah, I kno

Re: F16 -- what app is needing libass?

On 12/08/2011 01:20 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/08/2011 05:06 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> Now I am familiar with this that though a package is listed in the >> installer, the DVD does not have all that is needed for the install >> (even though I have specified my local updates repo). > Try using

Re: FC16 newbe questions

On 12/08/2011 12:50 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 10:58 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > >> alt-F1 does bring up the workspace switcher, but Cntl-Alt-arrow does not >> switch between workspaces. I need to find the handy-dandy workspace >> keystroke switcher. > Ctrl-Alt-up-arr

Fedora 16 black screen with Radeon HD 6470M: partially solved?

Greetings, SHORT VERSION: I think I've found a temporary solution to this Fedora install problem (found on other distros too), but I am not sure about _why_ it works, and it's the best solution. Any feedback is very appreciated. I've got a HP G6 1273SL laptop with this chipset and a live cd of Fe

Re: FC16 - moving sshd to another port

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/08/2011 12:14 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Thu, 08 Dec 2011 09:26:31 -0500, RM (Robert) wrote: > >> I have always run SSHD on a different port as part of my >> obfusication. Yeah, I know it will not stop good portscanners, >> but it stops al

Re: Unable to get into X

On 12/08/2011 05:54 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > It would be a good idea to describe what you actually see on the screen, > because nothing in the log shows any problems. I have, repeatedly. Right now, I've got my desktop rebooted into the normal environment, sitting here trying to start a graph

Script to globally set startup applications for all users

I'm writing a bash script to push "Preferences/Startup Applications" settings to all users. I've tried changing the setting manually for one user then looking at what files have changed. I found .config/autostart .gconfd/saved_state both change. I thought about copying those 2 files to all users

fedora 15 Alt panel

Hello, Before (until fedora 15), it was easy to configure the panel: Just right click, add to panel. Does this function disappear? check the net, it looks like that I may have to use Alt and/ot Ctl? The right click does not seem to work. Is it because I did not configure the mouse correctly? Tha

Re: Gnome Shell x Network Manager crash

On 12/08/2011 10:30 AM, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote: > Hi Jeff, > >> If you never use wireless, do what I do on my desktop: get rid of >> Network Manager and use network. > > I never had problems with NetworkManager before, I really like it, and I do > use it a lot for 3G internet connections and

Weird Audacity behaviour

Hi there, I'm used to give distance classes using a flash-based webconferencing software (dimdim, unfortunately became closed source). I usually run audacity at the same time to record audio so students can download later. But yesterday audacity had a very strange behaviour: some class segments we

Re: Re: Gnome Shell x Network Manager crash

Hi Jeff, >If you never use wireless, do what I do on my desktop: get rid of >Network Manager and use network. I never had problems with NetworkManager before, I really like it, and I do use it a lot for 3G internet connections and VPN, besides alternating between wired and wireless depending o

Re: Unable to get into X

On 12/08/2011 05:54 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > From the above I would say that the X session is up and running, using > 1280x1024, on virtual terminal 7. A very dumb question: which VT are you > looking at? Did you try to do a CTRL-ALT-F7 after starting X? It's lying, I assure you. It ignores

Re: Unable to get into X

On 12/08/2011 05:54 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > How exactly did you start the X session? From telinit 3, using startx? Going > back to telinit 5? What exactly do you see on the screen when you try it? As part of what is jokingly called a "normal boot." I let it boot without any user interventio

Re: Gnome Shell x Network Manager crash

On 12/08/2011 05:41 AM, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote: > What can I do to troubleshoot this? If you never use wireless, do what I do on my desktop: get rid of Network Manager and use network. I did it because NM threw away my DNS numbers every time I rebooted. I have it here on my laptop becaus

Re: F16 -- what app is needing libass?

On 12/08/2011 05:06 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Now I am familiar with this that though a package is listed in the > installer, the DVD does not have all that is needed for the install > (even though I have specified my local updates repo). Try using nothing but what's on the DVD, because you sh

Re: Unable to get into X

On 12/08/2011 03:25 AM, Ian Malone wrote: > This shows X coming up okay and being shutdown (via the power button?) > almost immediately, but about three minutes into system boot. Does > startup normally take that long since the upgrade? dmesg and > /var/log/messages output would be useful as would

Re: Unable to get into X

On 12/08/2011 12:37 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > Have you tried removing the proprietary Nvidia driver, at least for > the time being? Nvidia and AMD/ATI's drivers tend to not like system > upgrades that much and cause major headaches. No, because they've never caused me the slightest bit of t

Re: Historical Question - dracut

Ed Greshko wrote: > What was the command used prior to dracut? mkinitrd -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have

Re: gnome 3

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 15:18:59 +, > Patrick Dupre wrote: > > Hello, > > > > As many user probably, I prefer the version of gnome 2.x (like the > > one running with fedora 14) to gnome 3. Is there any option to keep > > the previous

Re: [389-users] [Q] Automatic update of shadowLastChange attribute

On 12/08/2011 09:36 AM, Iain Morgan wrote: > Hello, > > Is there any way to have 389 DS automatically update the > shadowLastChange attribute when the userPassword attribute is changed > for an entry? No. > I know that pam_ldap will attempt to update the shadowLastChange > attribute, but this eithe

Re: FC16 newbe questions

On Dec 8, 2011 7:11 AM, "Robert Moskowitz" wrote: > > So I skipped FC15. I never worked on Vista of WIn7, always using the > 'classic' windows desktop in XP. So I have some REAL challenges > adjusting th GNOME in FC16 > > Like where are my workspaces? I work with 4 of them for my different

Re: FC16 newbe questions

On 12/08/2011 12:18 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote: > On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 09:10:54AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > >> So I skipped FC15. I never worked on Vista of WIn7, always using the >> 'classic' windows desktop in XP. So I have some REAL challenges >> adjusting th GNOME in FC16 >> L

Re: sshfs

On 12/08/2011 10:17 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > HEllo, > > Finally fuse-sshfs-2.2-5.fc12.x86_64 runs fine with fedora 14 and 15, > but either the fc14 or fc15 version works fine in fedora 14 or 15 > respectively. > It does not let me mount a sun partition. > > I have no plan to test in fedora 16.

Re: Historical Question - dracut

On Thursday 08 December 2011 22:57:51 Ed Greshko wrote: > Bit of a brain freeze > > What was the command used prior to dracut? Was that mkinitrd? Or is my brain frozen as well? ;-) HTH, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription opt

Re: Unable to get into X

On Thursday 08 December 2011 14:23:14 Timothy Murphy wrote: > Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > From the above I would say that the X session is up and running, using > > 1280x1024, on virtual terminal 7. > > An ignorant question, but do the terms "virtual terminal", "desktop" > and "virtual desktop" all

Re: FC16 newbe questions

On 12/08/2011 10:58 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > On 12/08/2011 09:30 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> On Thursday 08 December 2011 09:10:54 Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>> So I skipped FC15. I never worked on Vista of WIn7, always using the >>> 'classic' windows desktop in XP. So I have some REAL cha

Re: gnome 3

On Thursday 08 December 2011 15:18:59 Patrick Dupre wrote: > As many user probably, I prefer the version of gnome 2.x (like the > one running with fedora 14) to gnome 3. Is there any option to keep > the previous version of gnome runing with the more recent versions of > fedora? No, there isn't. W

Re: FC16 newbe questions

On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 10:58 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > alt-F1 does bring up the workspace switcher, but Cntl-Alt-arrow does not > switch between workspaces. I need to find the handy-dandy workspace > keystroke switcher. Ctrl-Alt-up-arrow and -down-arrow switch workspaces. Now that they

Re: FC16 newbe questions

On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 14:30 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > Activate "activities" by putting the mouse into the upper-left corner of the > screen. Then you can see a list of currently open workspaces on the far right > on the screen, where you can click to switch between them (and make an >

Re: Historical Question - dracut

> Bit of a brain freeze > > What was the command used prior to dracut? > > -- mkintrd? Regards, Antonio -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedorapr

[389-users] [Q] Automatic update of shadowLastChange attribute

Hello, Is there any way to have 389 DS automatically update the shadowLastChange attribute when the userPassword attribute is changed for an entry? I know that pam_ldap will attempt to update the shadowLastChange attribute, but this either requires that the user has the privileges to update this

Re: FC16 newbe questions

On 12/08/2011 03:30 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Thursday 08 December 2011 09:10:54 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > And of course, you can always forgive&forget&switch to XFCE, KDE or LXDE. ;-) This is what I would recommend to the OP. Gnome 3 is so far away from Classic XP, he'd have to go through

Re: gnome 3

On 12/08/2011 09:18 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > Hello, > > As many user probably, I prefer the version of gnome 2.x (like the > one running with fedora 14) to gnome 3. Is there any option to keep > the previous version of gnome runing with the more recent versions of > fedora? > > Thank. > > >

Re: gnome 3

On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 11:09:59 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > You can force fallback mode which will work pretty similar to how things > > worked in gnome 2. > > That's only delaying the inevitable. The fall back will go away once the > LLVMpipe driver goes in

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