Re: LiveCode for the rest of us

2015-09-18 Thread Mark Wieder
On 09/18/2015 04:40 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: I guess I'm going to have to find time to get SQLMagic finished ( http://www.lcsql.com/sqlmagic.html). Yes, please. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.

Re: LiveCode for the rest of us

2015-09-18 Thread Richard Gaskin
Tim Selander wrote: Filemaker with xTalk replacing FM's miserable "scripting." I have been looking for that product, to no avail, since the demise of HyperCard. Some of that excellent post is even bigger than making a FileMaker clone: I can think of few things that would deliver a higher ROI

Re: LiveCode for the rest of us

2015-09-18 Thread Peter Haworth
I guess I'm going to have to find time to get SQLMagic finished ( http://www.lcsql.com/sqlmagic.html). Been distracted with other projects for a while. On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 4:02 PM Tim Selander wrote: > Roland, > > Amen, preach it brother! > > Filemaker with xTalk replacing FM's miserable "s

Re: LiveCode for the rest of us

2015-09-18 Thread Tim Selander
Roland, Amen, preach it brother! Filemaker with xTalk replacing FM's miserable "scripting." I have been looking for that product, to no avail, since the demise of HyperCard. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 9/19/15, 1:59, R.H. wrote: Following the really interesting discussions on this list

Re: AW: Why is LC text blurred on a retina display?

2015-09-18 Thread Jim Lambert
Can’t Sorenson Squeeze 10 do a file format conversion without recompressing? Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.r

Re: Importing a Snapshot from a window off screen

2015-09-18 Thread Ray
Good point Richard. I had tried importing from the stack which didn't work so I [wrongly] assumed it also would not work from the card. But it does! That's even easier. On 9/18/15 3:21 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Ray wrote: Paul - once again thanks for this insight. I'd thought I'd let you k

Re: put URL

2015-09-18 Thread Peter Haworth
Thanks Dave. I've moved the resetAll command to the end of my processing instead of at the start and all seems to work fine now. On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 3:28 PM Dave Cragg wrote: > > > On 18 Sep 2015, at 22:16, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com>> wrote: > > > > I guess I spoke to soon. > > > > The

Re: put URL

2015-09-18 Thread Dave Cragg
> On 18 Sep 2015, at 22:16, Peter Haworth > wrote: > > I guess I spoke to soon. > > The put URL code is in a button's mouseUp handler and the resetAll is at > the start of handler. Pete, I found this from a post from 8 years ago. (Oh dear.) It refers to libUrlResetAl

Re: Why is LC text blurred on a retina display?

2015-09-18 Thread Eric Corbett
Improving lineOffset performance would be great, but just as a reminder, fixing the lineOffset bug first would be ideal: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15512 Eric > On Sep 18, 2015, at 2:38 PM, Richard Gaskin > wrote: > > Mark Wad

Re: AW: Why is LC text blurred on a retina display?

2015-09-18 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Waddingham wrote: > I'm slightly surprised lineOffset would generally be 10 times slower > though - do you have code that demonstrates that? Thankfully not in the latest v7 build, 7.1rc3. I'll see if I can get some time later to dig up the old version where I'd seen that, but at this poin

Re: put URL

2015-09-18 Thread Peter Haworth
I guess I spoke to soon. The put URL code is in a button's mouseUp handler and the resetAll is at the start of handler. If I set a debug breakpoint at the start of the mouseUp handler and step through it line by line, I get the expected data back. If I remove the breakpoint, put URL returns a so

Re: AW: Why is LC text blurred on a retina display?

2015-09-18 Thread Mark Waddingham
Unfortunately not. Like most optimization, it tends to be bespoke to the situation. Also the slowdown is actually proportional to nlog n for sort - so slightly more than a constant multiplier. Seeing one run in isolation won't show that though. I'm slightly surprised lineOffset would generally

Re: Geometry Manager - Anyone?

2015-09-18 Thread William Prothero
At the nativesoft site, there is a “new” version 3, but no date or idea how old it is. Also, since it is not a free product, I was looking around to see how much it would cost me. Can’t find it. There is a link to the livecode marketplace, but it just gets me to the main livecode site. So, in s

Re: Importing a Snapshot from a window off screen

2015-09-18 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ray wrote: Paul - once again thanks for this insight. I'd thought I'd let you know the following script which groups everything on the card, gets a snapshot /of the group/, and then ungroups everything, is working well. on importGroupSnapshot snapName,myRect repeat with C=1 to number of con

Re: AW: Why is LC text blurred on a retina display?

2015-09-18 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Waddingham wrote: I recently did some work on the sort command for LiveCode 8 to optimize it's performance: https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/2496 The improvements were dramatic. Indeed, the new approach is actually much better than it was prior to 7.0 as it ensures it only compute

Re: Importing a Snapshot from a window off screen

2015-09-18 Thread Ray
Paul - once again thanks for this insight. I'd thought I'd let you know the following script which groups everything on the card, gets a snapshot /of the group/, and then ungroups everything, is working well. on importGroupSnapshot snapName,myRect repeat with C=1 to number of controls

Re: put URL

2015-09-18 Thread Peter Haworth
I ended up issuing resetAll which seemed to fix the problem. On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 11:45 AM Richard Gaskin wrote: > Peter Haworth wrote: > > The dictionary says all actions that refer to a URL are blocking but if I > > execute: > > > > put URL myURL into tResults > > > > ... my handler immedia

was revFontLoad issue..

2015-09-18 Thread Curtis Ford
That was it, thanks! "start using font file..." did the trick. Thanks, Roger & Mark! Curt -- Sent from Postbox ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runr

Re: put URL

2015-09-18 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter Haworth wrote: The dictionary says all actions that refer to a URL are blocking but if I execute: put URL myURL into tResults ... my handler immediately goes to the next statement and tResuls contains "error URL is currently loading". The url is question is to an api so I guess the error

Re: Geometry Manager - Anyone?

2015-09-18 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mike Kerner wrote: > I would like the GM to get some attention, because "writing your > own" is worse than tedious. Related, Rick Harrison wrote: > Thank you for your well put together answer on the subject. > > It does however bring up the point that all of us are probably > reinventing everyone

put URL

2015-09-18 Thread Peter Haworth
The dictionary says all actions that refer to a URL are blocking but if I execute: put URL myURL into tResults ... my handler immediately goes to the next statement and tResuls contains "error URL is currently loading". The url is question is to an api so I guess the error could be coming from t

Re: AW: AW: Why is LC text blurred on a retina display?

2015-09-18 Thread Mark Waddingham
Interesting. If Sorenson Squeeze is h.264 with a different header, all is not lost. It might be perfectly possible to do something at the point of the client to make them compatible. If they are currently MOVs then an important thing to remember is that MOV is actually just a container format -

Re: AW: Why is LC text blurred on a retina display?

2015-09-18 Thread Mike Bonner
Silly question, but can you update your archives simply by having LC adjust the header in the file on the fly? (Look for sorenson, if its there, make the changes, update the archive, and then play the file) IF its true h.264, but with just screwy header info, it'd be MUCH more efficient to change

LiveCode for the rest of us

2015-09-18 Thread R.H.
Following the really interesting discussions on this list for two years, enjoying the verve with which those developers in Edinburgh are trying to stitch the pieces together – and I know how much dedication this requires supporting so many different platforms and aspects of the LiveCode engine – an

AW: AW: Why is LC text blurred on a retina display?

2015-09-18 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Mark, I am sorry for my uncouth "broken". It was only for me "not usable" Your improvements on the sort command really look very promising. Thank you for caring about it! The reason, why I can't use the AVFoundation is very specific to my environment. All of our products are based on a set of

Re: Geometry Manager - Anyone?

2015-09-18 Thread Devin Asay
> On Sep 17, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Rick Harrison wrote: > > Any advice? > >> On Sep 17, 2015, at 9:15 AM, Rick Harrison wrote: >> >> Hi there, >> >> I was wondering what the status of the Geometry Manager is currently. >> Does it work as expected, or is it broken? >> >> Do any of you use it? I

Re: Importing a Snapshot from a window off screen

2015-09-18 Thread Ray
Ah haaa! so that's what's going on. I'll give it a try. Many thanks! On 9/18/15 11:37 AM, Paul Hibbert wrote: Ray, Importing a snapshot from rect uses the computer’s graphic card to generate the snapshot image, whereas, importing a snapshot from an object (group, card, stack etc.) allows t

Re: Importing a Snapshot from a window off screen

2015-09-18 Thread Paul Hibbert
Ray, Importing a snapshot from rect uses the computer’s graphic card to generate the snapshot image, whereas, importing a snapshot from an object (group, card, stack etc.) allows the LC engine to generate the snapshot image. I’m travelling right now so can’t test so easy, but I’m sure if you ca

Importing a Snapshot from a window off screen

2015-09-18 Thread Ray
Greetings - Has anybody had any success importing a snapshot from a stack's window which is offscreen? I'm looping through every card in a stack to import a snapshot using something like: import snapshot from rect myRect of window myWinId This causes a lot of annoying screen flicker so I'

Re: v.8 tools palette

2015-09-18 Thread dunbarx
Ah. Thanks, Neil. I hope the graphic look and feel for the new widget icons will be made, er, nicer looking. Anyway, time to start learning LC Builder. Craig -Original Message- From: Neil Roger To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Fri, Sep 18, 2015 9:27 am Subject: Re: v.8 tools pale

Re: Geometry Manager - Anyone?

2015-09-18 Thread Roger Eller
Google is my friend. :) http://www.nativesoft.net/products/nativegeometry/ On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Roger Eller wrote: > Sorry, but it may be a dead product... I don't see it at > https://livecode.com/products/thirdparty either. > > > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Earthednet

ANN MasterLibrary Version 45 now available.

2015-09-18 Thread Michael Doub
I made some adjustments to take into account the new reserved words of 7.1 and 8.0. You can find the current version here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3wpwn3hfbmpl7sk/MasterLibrary.livecode?dl=0 -= Mike Release 45 * Added ArrayEncodeVersion - This function will return the livecode versio

Re: Geometry Manager - Anyone?

2015-09-18 Thread Roger Eller
Sorry, but it may be a dead product... I don't see it at https://livecode.com/products/thirdparty either. On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Earthednet-wp wrote: > Roger, > This looks really useful. I can't see how to purchase it, or what it's > cost is, tho. The links to the markeplace take

Re: Geometry Manager - Anyone?

2015-09-18 Thread Earthednet-wp
Roger, This looks really useful. I can't see how to purchase it, or what it's cost is, tho. The links to the markeplace take me Not to marketplace. Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org > On Sep 18, 2015, at 7:15 AM, Roger Eller wrote: > > A few useful links: NOTE - These

Re: revFontLoad issue: odd spacing

2015-09-18 Thread Mark Waddingham
Hi Curt, Any ideas? Should I be calling revFontLoad in some other way? My advice would be to not call it at all! This is something we should really mark in the docs - revFontLoad / revFontUnload (and the revFont external) are no longer needed. The engine has built-in support for font loadin

Re: revFontLoad issue: odd spacing

2015-09-18 Thread Roger Eller
Someone recommended that I switch to the start using font syntax. It has helped, but is still not perfect. I have found that if the alignment is off, reloading the font again snaps it into place, so I keep a button onscreen to refresh the fonts. on LoadMyFonts set the itemDel to "/" put it

Re: AW: Why is LC text blurred on a retina display?

2015-09-18 Thread Mark Waddingham
Hi Tiemo, On 2015-09-18 11:11, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Thanks Kay, Neil and Mark, I can't use LC 7 or above, because the sort international is completely broken (as I have reported), what makes LC 7 or above completely unusable for German developers. (because sorting is just such a standard f

Re: v.8 Tool Palette missing, er, tools?

2015-09-18 Thread Earthednet-wp
I also found this, and the "run"pointer is in run mode, but the IDE is actually in debug mode. You have to click the debug pointer, then back to the run pointer to get the program to run. Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org > On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:56 AM, James Little wrote: > > Cr

revFontLoad issue: odd spacing

2015-09-18 Thread Curtis Ford
I'm running into an issue with revFontLoad on Windows 10 (Livecode 7.0.5). The first time I open the standalone, the font seems to load OK - text is clearly displaying in the custom font - but it looks like there's 4 or 5 spaces between each word. If I close the standalone and open it a second

Re: Geometry Manager - Anyone?

2015-09-18 Thread Roger Eller
A few useful links: NOTE - These are somewhat dated. Source: LiveCode SuperSite *The Official Geometry Manager:* http://lessons.runrev.com/s/lessons/m/4071/l/19026-geometry-manager *NativeSoft Geometry Manager (part 1):* http://lessons.runrev.c

Re: Geometry Manager - Anyone?

2015-09-18 Thread Rick Harrison
Hi Richard, Thank you for your well put together answer on the subject. It does however bring up the point that all of us are probably reinventing everyone’s wheel over and over. It might make sense to put together a routine that could be shared with everyone that is of a generic nature to help

Re: v.8 Tool Palette missing, er, tools?

2015-09-18 Thread James Little
Craig, I had the same problem. Apparently it’s a small bug that only appears on the initial loading of LC8; it will be fixed in dp5. If you go to “Tools” at the top and drop down to “Tools Palette” and toggle this off then on, it will load. Or if you shutdown LC8 and restart then it should l

Re: Why is LC text blurred on a retina display?

2015-09-18 Thread Neil Roger
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Re: v.8 tools palette

2015-09-18 Thread Neil Roger
Hi Craig, This is a DP4 issue and will be resolved in DP5. You will be able to fix it by restating LC and the full tools palette will magically appear Kind regards, Neil LiveCode Technical Support Lead n...@livecode.com LiveCode +44 (0) 845 219 8923. 25

v.8 tools palette

2015-09-18 Thread dunbarx
Just downloaded v.8 DP4. The tools palette is way too short and shows only the browse and pointer icons. I can create any tool from the "Object/New Control" menu, but... Is it me? Craig Newman ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.

v.8 Tool Palette missing, er, tools?

2015-09-18 Thread dunbarx
I just downloaded v.8 DP4, and the tools palette has only two icons, the pointer and the browse tools. The palette itself is rather short, and could not display much below the standard button suite anyway. I can create tools from the What gives? Craig Newman

Re: Geometry Manager - Anyone?

2015-09-18 Thread Mike Kerner
I would like the GM to get some attention, because "writing your own" is worse than tedious. On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 3:06 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Ditto. The GM seems like a good idea when you first start poking around > with it, and as long as you're doing simple things with it it all seems

Re: PR & Networking opportunity, Ohio Linux Fest

2015-09-18 Thread Mike Kerner
Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark. For starters, the reason it didn't work in Rustburgh (go buccos!) is because the center of the LC UNIVERSE is two hours north of you in Erie. Why do you think that Edinburgh comes across the pond? For anyone who's interested, the Ohio Linux event is in Columbus. On Fri, S

Re: Why is LC text blurred on a retina display?

2015-09-18 Thread Richmond
On 09/18/2015 01:07 PM, Neil Roger wrote: Hi Mark, Thank you for your input. LiveCode 8 is indeed still in development stages but I don't think I explicitly suggested using it for production work? Yes, 7.0.6/6.7.6 are the latest stable releases of LiveCode but I was merely suggesting a move

Re: Why is LC text blurred on a retina display?

2015-09-18 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Roger, No, you didn't recommend LC 8 explicitly for production work; you recommended it in general, which includes production work. I know that LC 8 is extremely interesting and it is important to be aware of all new possibilities, but for now I'll just explore. Kind regards, Mark -- M

Re: Why is LC text blurred on a retina display?

2015-09-18 Thread Neil Roger
Hi Mark, Thank you for your input. LiveCode 8 is indeed still in development stages but I don't think I explicitly suggested using it for production work? Yes, 7.0.6/6.7.6 are the latest stable releases of LiveCode but I was merely suggesting a move to 8 would be recommend especially as the p

PR & Networking opportunity, Ohio Linux Fest

2015-09-18 Thread Mark Rauterkus
Hi List Friends, Anyone from OHIO? Anyone interested in gathering there at a session at 6-8 pm, Friday, October 2, 2015? https://ohiolinux.org/content/birds-feather-sessions We tried (unsuccessful so far) to gather a LiveCode User Croup in Pittsburgh, PA, USA. Perhaps Ohio would work? Fishing f

AW: Why is LC text blurred on a retina display?

2015-09-18 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Thanks Kay, Neil and Mark, I can't use LC 7 or above, because the sort international is completely broken (as I have reported), what makes LC 7 or above completely unusable for German developers. (because sorting is just such a standard function...) But I will give 6.7.6 a try. Hoping I don't get a

Re: Why is LC text blurred on a retina display?

2015-09-18 Thread Mark Schonewille
Neil, LC 8 is still in dev stage. It should not be used for production work. The most recent version officially available for production work is LC 7.0.6. The latest version officially available for text-intensive projects that aren't unicode-compatible yet is 6.7.6. Please, don't recommend d

Re: Why is LC text blurred on a retina display?

2015-09-18 Thread Neil Roger
Hi Tiemo, HiDPI support was added in LiveCode 6.6RC2. You will have to upgrade to at least this version for text to look crisp although I would highly recommend starting to use LiveCode 8 ;) More information on this can be found here- https://livecode.com/hi-speed-hidpi/ Kind Regards, Neil

Re: Why is LC text blurred on a retina display?

2015-09-18 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: > > Is there anything I can do in LC? Is it the 6.5.2. engine itself? > I believe so. If memory serves me I think 6.6.x solved this problem but really you should test against 7.0.6 Stable to see if the problem persists. http://downloads.

Re: How do you work with an external editor?

2015-09-18 Thread Kay C Lan
Tiemo, You might try this: But be aware that some have reported that it has 'lost' ammendments they've made. Also, as with other reports, it doesn't work for me first time around like it's suppose to. I have to actually pre

Why is LC text blurred on a retina display?

2015-09-18 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello, using LC 6.5.2 and the standard text font tahoma, all texts in fields and buttons look blurred on a retina display in a standalone, compared to a text program or even the finder texts. Because I don't have a retina display myself I only can test with the feedback of a customer. Is there an

Re: Geometry Manager - Anyone?

2015-09-18 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ditto. The GM seems like a good idea when you first start poking around with it, and as long as you're doing simple things with it it all seems dandy. But sooner or later you'll come across something you need to do, some object that has to be positioned relative to something else, that's just