back script

2010-11-23 Thread FREDRICK RICE
I used Livecode to create a web stand-alone. Fantastic! Only one problem, on the first card is a quit button. How do I script it so that it will in fact go back 1 page as a web page. In other words a script that does this "" Thanks Rick ___ use-livecode

Re: How do you programmatically create ... // Valentina demo - 30 days non stop.

2010-11-23 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 11/24/10 1:00 AM, "Mark Schonewille" wrote: Hi Mark, > Hi Jonathan, > > I would use an open-source database like SQLite or MySQL in combination with a > good database editor. Actually, that's what I use most of the time, > particularly the completely free (open-source) MySQL server. MySQL is

Re: Data Grids Stop Working

2010-11-23 Thread Josh Mellicker
Could this have something to do with the template stack being changed or deleted? On Nov 23, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Paul Looney wrote: > Many times, on many stacks, data grids have simply stopped working - without > any warning or error. > The line of code they fail to execute is this, or similar:

Data Grids Stop Working

2010-11-23 Thread Paul Looney
Many times, on many stacks, data grids have simply stopped working - without any warning or error. The line of code they fail to execute is this, or similar: set the dgText of grp "Data Grid" to vTheList The code may have worked for months before is fails. The only solution I've found is to

Re: desktop to iPad

2010-11-23 Thread Terry Judd
Good advice Chip! I feel like a right Wally now - how come I never noticed this dialog before? Terry... On 24/11/10 3:15 PM, "Chipp Walters" wrote: > Maybe you should check the PLIST settings... > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Terry Judd wrote: > >> I seem to have a lot of trouble get

Re: desktop to iPad

2010-11-23 Thread Chipp Walters
Maybe you should check the PLIST settings... On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Terry Judd wrote: > I seem to have a lot of trouble getting the plugin to know which simulator > to open it in. Choose iPad in the simulator and the plugin often launches > the iPhone simulator anyway. Once the simula

Re: How do you programmatically create an empty database?

2010-11-23 Thread Peter Haworth
Hmm, well I seem to remember early in this thread some caustic remarks about the IT department - maybe they earn their money after all! Pete Haworth On Nov 23, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Actually, this is one of the things about SQL that you have to think about if you are going to

Re: How do you programmatically create an empty database?

2010-11-23 Thread Bob Sneidar
Actually, this is one of the things about SQL that you have to think about if you are going to use it. If you are not going to use a file based SQL like sqLite, you will need some kind of tool that can connect to an SQL server and create a database for you. You have to have at least one table wi

Re: ios card size

2010-11-23 Thread Bob Sneidar
In the beginning, God created Man, and rested. Next He created Woman, and no one's rested since! ;-) Bob On Nov 23, 2010, at 1:56 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth > On the second day, God created the oceans. > On the third day, God put the anima

Re: Stack size

2010-11-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
FlexibleLearning wrote: Thank you Jacque... Forgot about that one. Had half-remembered it as a compatibility-only function, but we'll give it a try. We were getting a 'cannot find stack' error which actually meant 'cannot fully load this stack', as well as no graceful result that memory is runni

Re: How do you programmatically create an empty database?

2010-11-23 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 11/23/10 11:46 PM, "Jonathan Lynch" wrote: > Honestly, I am still just trying to get my head around using databases. > > I use Rev for processing text in all sorts of creative ways at work - vastly > increases our productivity - but, I know next to nothing about database use. > > The logical

Re: How do you programmatically create an empty database?

2010-11-23 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 11/24/10 12:19 AM, "Jonathan Lynch" wrote: > Should I use SQLite for a database that is going to be used by multiple > users on a shared drive? > > The ongoing thread regarding multiuser use of SQLite has me wary of doing > so. > > Can I use mySQL in the same embedded style that I can use SQ

Re: How do you programmatically create an empty database?

2010-11-23 Thread Robert Brenstein
On 23.11.2010 at 17:19 Uhr -0500 Jonathan Lynch apparently wrote: My current thought is to set it up with Valentina (demo mode, 10 minute limit, etc...), then use the fully-working prototype to persuade my boss to buy a Valentina license. From everything I read about embedded Valentina, it seem

Re: How do you programmatically create an empty database?

2010-11-23 Thread Robert Brenstein
On 23.11.2010 at 17:19 Uhr -0500 Jonathan Lynch apparently wrote: My current thought is to set it up with Valentina (demo mode, 10 minute limit, etc...), then use the fully-working prototype to persuade my boss to buy a Valentina license. From everything I read about embedded Valentina, it seem

Re: Using SQLite as a multi-user database?

2010-11-23 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 11/23/10 10:34 PM, "Jonathan Lynch" wrote: Hi Jonathan, Idea was just simply do: while( Db.open() is false ) keep trying open it do some job db.close() At least yet in 1999 Valentina was so fast that even in this dummy way was able handle many users ... Of co

Re: How do you programmatically create an empty database?

2010-11-23 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Jonathan, I would use an open-source database like SQLite or MySQL in combination with a good database editor. Actually, that's what I use most of the time, particularly the completely free (open-source) MySQL server. MySQL is a really good database that fits the needs of very large companie

Re: Stack size

2010-11-23 Thread FlexibleLearning
Thank you Jacque... Forgot about that one. Had half-remembered it as a compatibility-only function, but we'll give it a try. We were getting a 'cannot find stack' error which actually meant 'cannot fully load this stack', as well as no graceful result that memory is running low; just a suddenly non

Re: How do you programmatically create an empty database?

2010-11-23 Thread Peter Haworth
Great tool for sqlite but I think they've moved over to mySQL now. Might be a ggod idea to prototype the app with SQLite (no/very little db admin required) then port it over to mySQL if it turns out that SQLite won;t do the job. Pete Haworth On Nov 23, 2010, at 2:10 PM, Andre Garzia wrote

Re: How do you programmatically create an empty database?

2010-11-23 Thread Jonathan Lynch
Should I use SQLite for a database that is going to be used by multiple users on a shared drive? The ongoing thread regarding multiuser use of SQLite has me wary of doing so. Can I use mySQL in the same embedded style that I can use SQLite, or does it have to be installed on user's machines? My

Re: Custom Properties

2010-11-23 Thread Jonathan Lynch
take it in as a binfile: set the myCustomProp of button "MyButton" to url "binfile:c:/filepath/filename.txt" On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Charles Szasz wrote: > How do I put a RTF file into custom properties so that it can be stored in > a standalone for windows? > > Charles Szasz > csz...@m

Re: How do you programmatically create an empty database?

2010-11-23 Thread Andre Garzia
Jonathan, If you use firefox, then pick up a firefox extension sqlite manager. With this extension you'll have a simple client able to work your database files which you can then later open and use in LiveCode. There are other sqlite tools and yes you can do it by script but I think it is easier

Custom Properties

2010-11-23 Thread Charles Szasz
How do I put a RTF file into custom properties so that it can be stored in a standalone for windows? Charles Szasz csz...@mac.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage

ios card size

2010-11-23 Thread Mike Kerner
what are y'all using for a card size (x,y) for your ios projects? -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good."

Re: How do you programmatically create an empty database?

2010-11-23 Thread Jonathan Lynch
Honestly, I am still just trying to get my head around using databases. I use Rev for processing text in all sorts of creative ways at work - vastly increases our productivity - but, I know next to nothing about database use. The logical process, to me, would be the following: - Create database

Re: How do you programmatically create an empty database?

2010-11-23 Thread Mark Schonewille
Jonathan, That depends on the database you want to use. If you use MySQL then the answer is yes, although it might be possible to write new database files directly to the MySQL directory and restart MySQL (for which you will also need to use the shell function). Why are you so keen on creating

Re: Custom Property Question

2010-11-23 Thread charles61
Mark, Thanks your script and Jonathan's worked! Charles Szasz csz...@mac.com On Nov 23, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Mark Schonewille-3 [via Runtime Revolution] wrote: > Hi Charles, > > I'm not sure what you want, but this is the syntax to store data from a field > in a custom property: > > set t

Re: Custom Property Question

2010-11-23 Thread charles61
Thanks! Your script worked! Charles Szasz csz...@mac.com On Nov 23, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Jonathan Lynch [via Runtime Revolution] wrote: > It would be a line that looks something like this: > > Set the myCustomProperty of button "MyButton" to field "MyField" > > That actual name of the cust

Re: How do you programmatically create an empty database?

2010-11-23 Thread Jonathan Lynch
Thanks, Mark. I am not talking about a database on a server. I just want to create a database file on a shared drive. Would I still need to use a shell command for that? On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Mark Schonewille < m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote: > Hi Jonathan, > > You need to co

Re: How do you programmatically create an empty database?

2010-11-23 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Jonathan, You need to connect to the SQL server using the terminal (i.e. the shell function), login as root and execute the command to create the database. It is also possible to write a PHP script and have it create the database, if you are connecting to a web server. Sometimes you need to

Re: Custom Property Question

2010-11-23 Thread Jonathan Lynch
It would be a line that looks something like this: Set the myCustomProperty of button "MyButton" to field "MyField" That actual name of the custom property can be just about anything, but it needs to be a single word. You do not have to precreate custom properties of objects. When you set them,

Re: Custom Property Question

2010-11-23 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Charles, I'm not sure what you want, but this is the syntax to store data from a field in a custom property: set the cCustomPropertyName of control "Some Control" to fld "Field Name" (control can also be card or stack). -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Softwa

How do you programmatically create an empty database?

2010-11-23 Thread Jonathan Lynch
I have been looking through the docs, and this does not seem obvious to me. I see that opening a nonexistent database using the SQlite driver will create one - but that only applies to SQLite. It would seem that the standard way to do this, would be to use revExecuteSql, but that command requires

Re: Using SQLite as a multi-user database?

2010-11-23 Thread Peter Haworth
SQLite has pretty powerful transaction locking capabilities that seem like they should handle the circumstances you mentioned but I believe you;re right that only one person can write to an SQLite database at a a time - that's because it locks the whole database file not individual tables o

Custom Property Question

2010-11-23 Thread charles61
How do you put the contents of a edit field into the property contents of custom properties? I am using a custom label property for checkboxes and I would to add the contents of a field into a custom property when the user checks a checkbox for that field. -- View this message in context: http:/

Re: Using SQLite as a multi-user database?

2010-11-23 Thread Jonathan Lynch
Hi Ruslan, What is the open/close trick? Is this the idea of opening the record in question, loading it into the application, then closing and saving the record while putting some kind of marker in the record to indicate that it is locked - then, when the user is done with the record, the applicat

Re: Using SQLite as a multi-user database?

2010-11-23 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 11/23/10 8:41 PM, "Jonathan Lynch" wrote: > I am in the same sort of boat. > > I am making an application that would use a database file on a shared drive. > Maybe 10-20 people would be writing to it during any given day. It seems > like Valentina would be a good choice for this, but, as sill

Re: Using SQLite as a multi-user database?

2010-11-23 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 11/23/10 8:41 PM, "Jonathan Lynch" wrote: > I am in the same sort of boat. > > I am making an application that would use a database file on a shared drive. > Maybe 10-20 people would be writing to it during any given day. It seems > like Valentina would be a good choice for this, but, as sill

Re: Using SQLite as a multi-user database?

2010-11-23 Thread Bob Sneidar
Yes, mySQL is multiuser out of the box. FYI, I am pretty sure that if a user has an sqLite database open for writing, no one else can open it to write to it. Multiple users can have it open for read, but only one can write. Unless something has changed anyway. Bob On Nov 23, 2010, at 11:07 A

Re: Using SQLite as a multi-user database?

2010-11-23 Thread Bob Sneidar
I think for a small number of users, and a simple data structure, it is not much of a problem. The minimum requirement here is avoiding concurrent sessions into the same records. For instance, suppose user a has a customer record open for editing. You need to flag is so that if customer B comes

Re: Stack size

2010-11-23 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 11/23/10 3:04 AM, FlexibleLearning wrote: As data is added to a particular stack, LiveCode runs the risk of running out of memory. Has anyone figured out how to check this programmatically, or is it a question for Edinburgh? I'm not sure you can do it exactly. You could check the size of the

Re: Using SQLite as a multi-user database?

2010-11-23 Thread Jonathan Lynch
Does MySQL work fine being used by multiple users accessing a MySQL database file on a shared drive? That is - not being used with a client/server structure. On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:53 PM, David Beck wrote: > > I'd suggest pushing to use MySQL, even though some of these work arounds > are very

Re: [OT] Interesting Article on Form Design

2010-11-23 Thread Peter Haworth
I'm kind of in the same boat there! Busy trying to document this stuff right now with a hope to having some other people give it a try in the first couple of months of next year. Pete Haworth On Nov 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Hi Pete. That is pretty much what I am doing. I c

Re: Using SQLite as a multi-user database?

2010-11-23 Thread David Beck
I'd suggest pushing to use MySQL, even though some of these work arounds are very clever and interesting. We had 3 people accessing a SQLite database and started running into problems with locks on files. We moved to MySQL and everything worked like a charm right away. Seems best to start wit

Re: Using SQLite as a multi-user database?

2010-11-23 Thread Fredrik Andersson
Björnke von Gierke skrev 2010-11-23 19.24: I think fredrik just uses installed programs and a sqlite file on a network share. Which is a smart way to circumvent "no server" rules, and sqlite seems to be able to do that. Yep, that's how I planned it. Previously I've mostly used text files to h

Re: Updating to LiveCode 4.5.1 - Valentina 4.7

2010-11-23 Thread william humphrey
I followed your conversation on the Valentina forum. It is amazing how much help those guys give any customer that asks. It is one of the reasons I love Valentina. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscr

Re: Using SQLite as a multi-user database?

2010-11-23 Thread Bob Sneidar
I think he means Web Server with a database backend. Bob On Nov 23, 2010, at 10:04 AM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > Fredrick says: > >> Oh, and the reason I have to use SQLite is that I can't run any database >> servers (the IT department would be annoyed to say the least). > > Once again: >

Re: Using SQLite as a multi-user database?

2010-11-23 Thread Jonathan Lynch
I am in the same sort of boat. I am making an application that would use a database file on a shared drive. Maybe 10-20 people would be writing to it during any given day. It seems like Valentina would be a good choice for this, but, as silly as it sounds, I don't have a practical funding mechanis

Re: [OT] Interesting Article on Form Design

2010-11-23 Thread Bob Sneidar
Hi Pete. That is pretty much what I am doing. I can't help but think about reusing the work I do in other apps later, so I am trying to make my forms reusable by forming a method like you. Since I am really a hobbyist when it comes to developing, I never get close to finishing. Bob On Nov 23

Re: Using SQLite as a multi-user database?

2010-11-23 Thread Björnke von Gierke
I think fredrik just uses installed programs and a sqlite file on a network share. Which is a smart way to circumvent "no server" rules, and sqlite seems to be able to do that. As for rev not being able to react to multiple clients on sockets, that is not how it works. if you do not use blockin

Re: Using SQLite as a multi-user database?

2010-11-23 Thread Fredrik Andersson
Hehe, Well, no 1 is not an option and no 2 is a bit difficult. I'm making a small in-house application behind the back of the giant IT-department (1500 or so people). If I let them know what I'm up to they might begin to crack down on my (and my other IT-savvy collegues) other applications. W

Re: Using SQLite as a multi-user database?

2010-11-23 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 11/23/10 4:15 PM, "Andre Garzia" wrote: > Fredrik, Hi Andre, > Instead of risking problems by having concurrent queries to a single SQLite > database, why don't you build a middleware? > From your email, I understood that the problem is that you can't install a > server such as MySQL bec

AW: Updating to LiveCode 4.5.1 - Valentina 4.7

2010-11-23 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
I have to correct myself, it was my fault. Valentina 4.7 runs on Win with older versions and new LC 4.5.1 (had a typo in my new Valentina serial awkward!) Tiemo > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode- > boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im

Re: [OT] Interesting Article on Form Design

2010-11-23 Thread Peter Haworth
I wrote something like this years ago in a galaxy far away on Hewlett Packard 3000 computers! My experience was that it could provide simple add/change/delete/display capabilities for a single table with forms that could look really bad if there were a lot of columns in the table so good l

Re: Using SQLite as a multi-user database?

2010-11-23 Thread Peter Haworth
I think the answer to your question depends on the level of concurrency you expect. You'd definitely need to implement the SQLite locking mechanisms to support concurrent users (BEGIN/END/ROLLBACK TRANSACTION). Check out sqlite.org, the home of sqlite, there's some words on there about

Re: Using SQLite as a multi-user database?

2010-11-23 Thread Andre Garzia
you can keep connections open, as many as you think is reasonable, so if two client connects you can loop thru the connected clients answering their requests in a merry go round fashion. the only times where LiveCode will fail to answer a connection is if there is some blocking code running and at

Re: Using SQLite as a multi-user database?

2010-11-23 Thread Bob Sneidar
I think you could simply use the try/catch structure. Try yo open the database for writing, then exit if all goes well. If not, in your catch, just loop. Increment a counter, so that you can break out of the loop at an inordinate number of attempts to avoid loop lock. Then you just have to make

Re: Using SQLite as a multi-user database?

2010-11-23 Thread Bob Sneidar
Andre. How would you que the requests? Since LiveCode is not multithreaded, what would happen if 2 clients made a request simultaneously? You still have the same problem don't you? Or is LiveCode capable somehow of communicating on multiple sockets simultaneously? Bob On Nov 23, 2010, at 6:1

AW: Updating to LiveCode 4.5.1 - Valentina 4.7

2010-11-23 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
But if in any case you have to handle non pure ASCII characters, like European Umlaute and accents, then Valentina 4.7 corrupts your data on Mac, but runs fine on Win (at least for 9 minutes). They made the 4.8b1 patch for this issue (read my last postings, some month ago) Tiemo > > Good to know

Re: Updating to LiveCode 4.5.1 - Valentina 4.7

2010-11-23 Thread william humphrey
Good to know that new install is working fine on Mac OS. I'm really headed in the direction of just telling my customers to by Macs. On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: > Yes, LiveCode 4.5.1 runs fine with older Valentina releases, but up to now > I > didn't get the latest V

Re: Using SQLite as a multi-user database?

2010-11-23 Thread Fredrik Andersson
Thanks for the suggestions, I wouldn't have though of that! Unfortunately I don't think I could run any kind of serverlike program on our network. I'm actually contemplating using some kind of lock-file that is created whenever someone is writing to the database (or perhaps I'll even use some

Re: [OT] Interesting Article on Form Design

2010-11-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Scott Rossi wrote: I recently followed an interesting discussion between user interface professionals regarding the use of "wizards" to aid in data collection and whether they were still appropriate. Some folks stated that wizards are a viable means to help guide a user through a process, whil

Re: Using SQLite as a multi-user database?

2010-11-23 Thread Andre Garzia
Fredrik, Instead of risking problems by having concurrent queries to a single SQLite database, why don't you build a middleware? >From your email, I understood that the problem is that you can't install a server such as MySQL because the IT dept will be shouting. So why don't you use LiveCode to

AW: Updating to LiveCode 4.5.1 - Valentina 4.7

2010-11-23 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Yes, LiveCode 4.5.1 runs fine with older Valentina releases, but up to now I didn't get the latest Valentina release 4.7 to run on Windows (... as you know Bill) On Mac I got to run Valentina 4.7 with older Rev releases as well as with 4.5.1, but on Windows Valentina quits after the demo period of

Re: Using SQLite as a multi-user database?

2010-11-23 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 7:10 AM, Fredrik Andersson wrote: > From reading on the SQLite website I get the impression that it IS possible > to use SQLite as a multi-user database even though it's not its primary > purpose. I recently made a small application that was used by very few > people and th

Re: question about iOS apps

2010-11-23 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Andre, Am 23.11.2010 um 13:00 schrieb Andre Garzia: >>> Absolutely. Yes, but only in your own sandbox. >> sorry, no capisce, what does that mean? >> > It means that each application has it's own documents and temporary files > folder. So that they won't share content with each other. It is li

Using SQLite as a multi-user database?

2010-11-23 Thread Fredrik Andersson
Hello, >From reading on the SQLite website I get the impression that it IS possible to >use SQLite as a multi-user database even though it's not its primary purpose. >I recently made a small application that was used by very few people and the >app didn't implode or anything. My question is: D

Re: question about iOS apps

2010-11-23 Thread Andre Garzia
> > > > Absolutely. Yes, but only in your own sandbox. > > sorry, no capisce, what does that mean? > > It means that each application has it's own documents and temporary files folder. So that they won't share content with each other. It is like a walled garden, you can tend to your own patch of gr

Re: RunRev as RevServer &/or CGI engine

2010-11-23 Thread Andre Garzia
Alex, For a simple cgi installation, all you need is the standalone engine for linux. Pick the 3.5 one. There was a recent thread on this list where Jacque gave us some download links (with permission). Remember to invoke the cgi engine with the "-ui" option not to load X11 & Friends. I know RevS

Stack size

2010-11-23 Thread FlexibleLearning
As data is added to a particular stack, LiveCode runs the risk of running out of memory. Has anyone figured out how to check this programmatically, or is it a question for Edinburgh? Hugh Senior FLCo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.run