Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting

2012-02-15 Thread paul sutton
On 23/11/11 10:07, Steve Fisher wrote: > I hate bottom posting, I don't want to scan/re-read a thread I have > been following over and over. I always delete the original email I > reply to and quote it where ever necessary. This is particularly bad > if someone replies to a digest, I just give up

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting

2011-11-29 Thread Colin Law
On 29 November 2011 10:13, James Tait wrote: > On 28/11/11 10:07, Colin Law wrote: >> >> On 28 November 2011 09:44, Jon Reynolds >>  wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, November 24, 2011 19:36, Liam Proven wrote: >>> Would you say your signature should be at the complete bottom, including >>> all quoted text,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting

2011-11-29 Thread James Tait
On 28/11/11 10:07, Colin Law wrote: On 28 November 2011 09:44, Jon Reynolds wrote: On Thu, November 24, 2011 19:36, Liam Proven wrote: Would you say your signature should be at the complete bottom, including all quoted text, or just after your immediate reply? I would say that if your signatu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting

2011-11-28 Thread Colin Law
On 28 November 2011 09:44, Jon Reynolds wrote: > On Thu, November 24, 2011 19:36, Liam Proven wrote: >> >>> Would setting the signature at the bottom be best practice? >> >> Yes. 4 lines, ideally, 5 at a push. Legal disclaimers are pointless >> and unenforcable so do not use them. Include some non

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting

2011-11-28 Thread Jon Reynolds
On Thu, November 24, 2011 19:36, Liam Proven wrote: > >> Would setting the signature at the bottom be best practice? > > Yes. 4 lines, ideally, 5 at a push. Legal disclaimers are pointless > and unenforcable so do not use them. Include some non-email contact > details. > Would you say your signatu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting

2011-11-24 Thread mac
On 24/11/11 19:29, Andres wrote: I know there is a setup somewhere in evolution to enable bottom posting but i have not found it in thunderbird. In Account Settings > Composition & Addressing. mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wik

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting

2011-11-24 Thread Andres Muniz Piniella
On 24/11/11 19:36, Liam Proven wrote: On 24 November 2011 19:29, Andres wrote: If a mailing list can get away with having a rule against top-posting then that's great, but most venues can't. Hi, is snipping what i just did? I.e. Select the stuff that is redundant delete it and post beneth?

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting

2011-11-24 Thread Liam Proven
On 24 November 2011 19:29, Andres wrote: > >> If a mailing list can get away with having a rule against >> top-posting then that's great, but most venues can't. >> > Hi, > > is snipping what i just did? I.e. Select the stuff that is redundant delete > it and post beneth? Yes, but leave attributio

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting

2011-11-24 Thread Andres
> If a mailing list can get away with having a rule against > top-posting then that's great, but most venues can't. > Hi, is snipping what i just did? I.e. Select the stuff that is redundant delete it and post beneth? Would setting the signature at the bottom be best practice? Is there a t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting

2011-11-23 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Jon, On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 09:45:44AM -, Jon Reynolds wrote: > Do you make a point of bottom posting regardless of the recipient's style? > Or do you just stay 'bothered' inside but think 'what's the point' and > just top-post? I'm fairly confident that email will be dead—even in a corpo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting

2011-11-23 Thread Barry Drake
On 23/11/11 11:01, Avi Greenbury wrote: Only if they'd bottom posted all the time and never snipped, which would be infuraiating for everybody else already involved. Well said! I get really annoyed when someone bottom posts a one-liner and I have to scroll down three screens full of old message

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting

2011-11-23 Thread alan c
On 23/11/11 09:45, Jon Reynolds wrote: > I totally agree with and understand the logic behind the top posting > argument. It makes perfect sense to have the flow of conversation > chronologically downwards, so reading over a conversation is easy. > > But, as we all know, hardly anyone, except for

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting

2011-11-23 Thread mac
On 23/11/11 10:10, Norman Silverstone wrote: I am not a computer nerd, just an 'old codger'. When I started to use email I was instructed to put my remarks after the lines upon which I was commenting and to snip out superfluous material... Being an old codger, too, I agree with Norman. The ke

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting

2011-11-23 Thread Avi Greenbury
Juan J. wrote: > That's the beauty of enterprisey communications where lots of people > are CCed and most of them barely understands email. Different people > replies in different ways: plain text, HTML, some quote using '>', > others use colours, others a TAB (?), and others don't care and it's >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting

2011-11-23 Thread Avi Greenbury
Jon Reynolds wrote: > On Wed, November 23, 2011 10:07, Philip Stubbs wrote: > > ...At work, my boss > > may have a long back and forth with a supplier, and then suddenly > > include me with a 'What do you think?' type message. In that > > situation, I am glad that they have top posted, including al

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting

2011-11-23 Thread Juan J.
On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 10:33 +, Jon Reynolds wrote: > On Wed, November 23, 2011 10:07, Philip Stubbs wrote: > > ...At work, my boss > > may have a long back and forth with a supplier, and then suddenly > > include me with a 'What do you think?' type message. In that > > situation, I am glad that

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting

2011-11-23 Thread Jon Reynolds
Lol, Good get-out clause Am I allowed to 'lol'? ;) On Wed, November 23, 2011 10:31, Alan Bell wrote: > The logical solution to this debate is to start the practice of sandwich > posting, in which your reply is placed at the top, as per top posting, > and then copied and pasted verbatim to the bo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting

2011-11-23 Thread Jon Reynolds
On Wed, November 23, 2011 10:07, Philip Stubbs wrote: > ...At work, my boss > may have a long back and forth with a supplier, and then suddenly > include me with a 'What do you think?' type message. In that > situation, I am glad that they have top posted, including all the old > messages, as I can

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting

2011-11-23 Thread Alan Bell
The logical solution to this debate is to start the practice of sandwich posting, in which your reply is placed at the top, as per top posting, and then copied and pasted verbatim to the bottom, thereby bottom posting. Threads can then be read chronologically from the middle in either directio

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting

2011-11-23 Thread Norman Silverstone
> > Do you make a point of bottom posting regardless of the recipient's style? > Or do you just stay 'bothered' inside but think 'what's the point' and > just top-post? > I am not a computer nerd, just an 'old codger'. When I started to use email I was instructed to put my remarks after the lin

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting

2011-11-23 Thread Gareth France
I use gmail which compiles all the individual emails into one conversation. This means unless you delete the original message I end up with eleventy five repeated posts! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting

2011-11-23 Thread Philip Stubbs
On 23 November 2011 09:45, Jon Reynolds wrote: > Do you make a point of bottom posting regardless of the recipient's style? > Or do you just stay 'bothered' inside but think 'what's the point' and > just top-post? Bottom posting only makes sense when people cut the quoted text. If people are goin

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting

2011-11-23 Thread Steve Fisher
I hate bottom posting, I don't want to scan/re-read a thread I have been following over and over. I always delete the original email I reply to and quote it where ever necessary. This is particularly bad if someone replies to a digest, I just give up! Some of the guys on my local LUG are totally

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting

2011-11-23 Thread Jacob Mansfield
On 23 Nov 2011, at 09:55, Juan J. Martínez wrote: > On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 09:45 +, Jon Reynolds wrote: >> [...] >> >> Do you make a point of bottom posting regardless of the recipient's style? >> Or do you just stay 'bothered' inside but think 'what's the point' and >> just top-post? > > You

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting

2011-11-23 Thread Juan J.
On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 09:45 +, Jon Reynolds wrote: > [...] > > Do you make a point of bottom posting regardless of the recipient's style? > Or do you just stay 'bothered' inside but think 'what's the point' and > just top-post? You're not alone :) I personally hate when the original mail has

[ubuntu-uk] Top Posting

2011-11-23 Thread Jon Reynolds
Hi All, I totally agree with and understand the logic behind the top posting argument. It makes perfect sense to have the flow of conversation chronologically downwards, so reading over a conversation is easy. But, as we all know, hardly anyone, except for mostly (can't back this up) computer ner

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting: a request.

2007-09-27 Thread Sakjur
2007/9/27, Pete Stean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > You can send googlemail in plaintext if you want (it's under the > options, and it's how I'm sending this message). > > However, you have to remember every time you reply to a thread to > strip out the little *quoted text* line that often appears under

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting: a request.

2007-09-27 Thread Pete Stean
You can send googlemail in plaintext if you want (it's under the options, and it's how I'm sending this message). However, you have to remember every time you reply to a thread to strip out the little *quoted text* line that often appears under your replies. The entire thread is actually sitting u

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting: a request.

2007-09-26 Thread Kris Douglas
Google mail is damn annoying. On 26/09/2007, Terence Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alan Pope wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 21:42 +0100, Jim Kissel wrote: > > > > > >> His e-mails aren't very readable in thunderbird either. > >> > > > > Interesting, they look fine in Evolution. > > > >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting: a request.

2007-09-26 Thread Terence Simpson
Alan Pope wrote: > On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 21:42 +0100, Jim Kissel wrote: > > >> His e-mails aren't very readable in thunderbird either. >> > > Interesting, they look fine in Evolution. > > I wonder if this is an html formatting issue perhaps? > > Cheers, > Al. > > I always disable HTML by

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting: a request.

2007-09-26 Thread Robert McWilliam
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:33:31 +0100 Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 21:42 +0100, Jim Kissel wrote: > > > His e-mails aren't very readable in thunderbird either. > > Interesting, they look fine in Evolution. > > I wonder if this is an html formatting issue perhaps? Th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting: a request.

2007-09-26 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 21:42 +0100, Jim Kissel wrote: > His e-mails aren't very readable in thunderbird either. Interesting, they look fine in Evolution. I wonder if this is an html formatting issue perhaps? Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- u

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting: a request.

2007-09-26 Thread Jim Kissel
Mark Fraser wrote: > On Wednesday 26 September 2007 18:58:49 Alec Wright wrote: >> On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 18:55 +0100, Jim Kissel wrote: >>> *** Please stop Top-Posting *** >>> Two is fine > How many sugars? > >> I'd rather have coffee if possible. >> >>> Coffee or te

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting: a request.

2007-09-26 Thread Mark Fraser
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 18:58:49 Alec Wright wrote: > On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 18:55 +0100, Jim Kissel wrote: > > *** Please stop Top-Posting *** > > > > > Two is fine > > > > > >> How many sugars? > > >> > > >>> I'd rather have coffee if possible. > > >>> > > Coffee or tea? > > I was just

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting: a request.

2007-09-26 Thread Sakjur
2007/9/26, Alec Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 18:55 +0100, Jim Kissel wrote: > > *** Please stop Top-Posting *** > > > > > Two is fine > > >> How many sugars? > > >>> I'd rather have coffee if possible. > > Coffee or tea? > > I was just about to ask what this list's pol

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Top Posting: a request.

2007-09-26 Thread Alec Wright
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 18:55 +0100, Jim Kissel wrote: > *** Please stop Top-Posting *** > > > Two is fine > >> How many sugars? > >>> I'd rather have coffee if possible. > Coffee or tea? I was just about to ask what this list's policy on top/bottom posting was... Thanks for clearing that up -

[ubuntu-uk] Top Posting: a request.

2007-09-26 Thread Jim Kissel
*** Please stop Top-Posting *** > Two is fine >> How many sugars? >>> I'd rather have coffee if possible. Coffee or tea? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

2006-11-07 Thread Mike Preston
> >> Although it has been requested that the subject of forums be dropped, >> I was thinking (yes dangerous I know), is it possible to build a forum >> style front end onto mailman? It already holds archives of every >> message made to the list. If we use a front end to mailman it will not >> be a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

2006-11-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On 06/11/06, Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I will just ask one more question, after all I said I am still receiving > mail. Why Have you followed the link at the bottom if each mail and unsubcribed? https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk and scroll right to the bottom. You

Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

2006-11-06 Thread Bill Smith
u-uk@lists.ubuntu.com <mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> > /*Subject:*/ Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums) > > On Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 12:49:20PM GMT, Andy wrote: > > > > I made a stupid mistake I openly admit that, I should have not said

Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

2006-11-06 Thread Ian
I will just ask one more question, after all I said I am still receiving mail. Why         ---Original Message---   From: John K Masters Date: 06/11/2006 19:08:28 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)   On Mon Nov 06

Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

2006-11-06 Thread John K Masters
On Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 12:49:20PM GMT, Andy wrote: > > I made a stupid mistake I openly admit that, I should have not said > anything, I should have been more welcoming, I am sorry for my > transgressions. Splitting or 'forking' the group due to the stupid > actions of one person (me) is not goin

Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

2006-11-06 Thread David Morley
When I first joined the lug mailing list it was pointed out to me that I made several mistakes first of these was top posting. The reason is was given for this being wrong where put very simply. When a conversation is in flow it is harder to understand (for everyone else) what is being said when t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

2006-11-06 Thread Andy
On 05/11/06, Caroline Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ubuntu UK isn't actually recognised by the Ubuntu community council > currently so if the forum community wanted to fork they can certainly do > so. Your sheer weight of numbers should ensure you prevail. Now that is really not helpful is it?

Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

2006-11-05 Thread paul
Quoting Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 03:39:01PM +, Paul Mellors wrote: >> Just because people want it, although not everyone, i'm setting up an >> unnoficial ubuntu-uk forum. > > I'd strongly recommend against that. Not because of my opposition to > forums - but

Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

2006-11-05 Thread Alan Pope
On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 03:39:01PM +, Paul Mellors wrote: > Just because people want it, although not everyone, i'm setting up an > unnoficial ubuntu-uk forum. I'd strongly recommend against that. Not because of my opposition to forums - but if we have them then IMO they should be on the "o

Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

2006-11-05 Thread Alan Pope
On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 03:04:59PM +, Caroline Ford wrote: > Well this is the only email list I'm on that is so aggressive to > newbies. > Heh, you're clearly not on many lists :) and :( > I've *never* seen this sort of aggression or complaints on the evils of > "top posting" elsewhere. I'v

Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

2006-11-05 Thread Caroline Ford
On Sun, 2006-11-05 at 15:39 +, Paul Mellors wrote: > Hi all > > Just because people want it, although not everyone, i'm setting up an > unnoficial ubuntu-uk forum. Please can you send me off list, so not to > upset anyone, a list of catagories that people would want. I don't want > to up

Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

2006-11-05 Thread Paul Mellors
Robert K. Day wrote: >> The domain will be http://www.planetubuntu.uk > > As far as I'm aware, top-level .uk domains aren't available; you need to go > for plabnetubuntu.co.uk, planetubuntu.org.uk or similar > > Robert > Yeah sorry robert it was a typo, should have been co.uk. Paul -- ubunt

Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

2006-11-05 Thread Robert K. Day
> The domain will be http://www.planetubuntu.uk As far as I'm aware, top-level .uk domains aren't available; you need to go for plabnetubuntu.co.uk, planetubuntu.org.uk or similar Robert -- rkd on irc.freenode.net https://launchpad.net/people/rkd (also the source for my public key) pgpVCKVEZl

Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

2006-11-05 Thread Paul Mellors
Caroline Ford wrote: > On Sun, 2006-11-05 at 08:10 +, Sean Miller wrote: >> Ian wrote: >>> But I was not here to make a date. And I see other top posting OK. >>> >> Indeed, I'm sure they do, but that doesn't negate the fact that in doing >> so *they* also make life very difficult for Digest

Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

2006-11-05 Thread baza
: 05/11/2006 05:10:03 > > To: British Ubuntu Talk > > Subject: [ubuntu-UK] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums) > > > > Ian wrote: > > > You have and its appalling bad taste in my language. > > > > > Just to explain for a moment, Ian,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

2006-11-05 Thread Sean Miller
Caroline Ford wrote: > Well this is the only email list I'm on that is so aggressive to > newbies. > I wasn't trying to be aggressive... major apologies if you perceived me to be... was actually trying to explain to Ian why top posting can be an issue for some people... made a lot of effort to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

2006-11-05 Thread Caroline Ford
On Sun, 2006-11-05 at 08:10 +, Sean Miller wrote: > Ian wrote: > > But I was not here to make a date. And I see other top posting OK. > > > Indeed, I'm sure they do, but that doesn't negate the fact that in doing > so *they* also make life very difficult for Digest subscribers... > > But t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

2006-11-05 Thread Andy
I am getting the 'oh dear what have I done feeling' I never meant for this to happen, I did not mean to start a 'row'. I have apologised once and will do so again, Ian I truly am sorry that I have offended you. What I said was careless and I should not have said it and I am sorry, unfortunately o

Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

2006-11-05 Thread Ian
---Original Message--- From: Sean Miller Date: 11/05/06 08:11:13 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-UK] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums) Ian wrote: > But I was not here to make a date. And I see other top posting OK. > Indeed, I'm s

Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

2006-11-05 Thread Sean Miller
Ian wrote: > But I was not here to make a date. And I see other top posting OK. > Indeed, I'm sure they do, but that doesn't negate the fact that in doing so *they* also make life very difficult for Digest subscribers... But the sarcastic response and the fact that you top posted again in you

Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

2006-11-04 Thread Ian
But I was not here to make a date. And I see other top posting OK. ---Original Message--- From: Sean Miller Date: 05/11/2006 05:10:03 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-UK] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums) Ian wrote: > You have and

[ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

2006-11-04 Thread Sean Miller
Ian wrote: > You have and its appalling bad taste in my language. > Just to explain for a moment, Ian, why people feel so passionately at times about top posting in an e-mail list and as a result sometimes we can end up with situations like this where one person feels "victimised" or the like